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CD Projekt's CYBERPUNK 2077 Release Thread - Concerned For The Consoles

Discussion in 'CD Projekt Red' started by Sam Ecorners, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. msxyz Augur

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    This video really proves that thr CDPR guy who gave the apology is full of BS. Releasing a product in that state is not a 'calculated risk', it's plain fraud.

    The amount of weird stuff happening onscreen cannot possibly be fixed in a patch or two. The entire game code is a ticking time bomb. If the game cannot retrieve an asset or a script fast enough from the mass storage, the entire system go bonkers. The PC saving grace is having a fast SSD but I'm sure that I'll be seeing the same if I were running the game on a PC with a traditional hard disk.
     
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  2. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer Sad Loser

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    If you do that in 2021, you deserve the bad experience. There are many faults with this game, but the devs expecting people to not use ancient hardware in this day and age is perfectly reasonable. There is a reason why SSD is in the recommended system requirements.
     
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  3. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    I really don't get people still using HDDs for gaming in CURRENT_YEAR.

    SSDs became affordable a decade back, and even with older slower SSDs, the difference was night and day.
     
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  4. msxyz Augur

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    My point is that the code is not fault proof. I do get the occasional T-pose NPC or LOD error and I'm not running it on a slow PC. The entire code doesn't seem to account for occasional delays in retrieving data (that could happens on PC too because there's always a lot of shit running in background, especially with Windows).

    One thing is to have some stuttering or dip in the framerate, another thing is to witness the entire system go bonkers because you don't do proper thread syncing nor have a semaphore system in place when different threads talks to one another.
     
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  5. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    I don't have a modern machine and my SSD is also rather old-gen. Yet I've experienced very few bugs. Once my char was stuck in a ripperdoc armchair and I had to reload. That's it, really. A few graphical glitches here and there, but nothing serious. Probably biggest one was when my char overlapped with Panam's model once in her car during a cave assault (after reloading!). Don't think I've ever seen the infamous T-pose.
    Also never had a crash.

    I'd personally rate the game on my system as very stable and rather polished, technics-wise, given the size and scope.
     
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  6. Pegultagol Erudite

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    Trying to optimize this game so the streaming in of details and textures (and the world, really) can overcome the hurdle of being limited to data throughput from 5400rpm hard drives of 7 years ago might be the ultimate hacking challenge in of itself

    Maybe they should just forfeit and move the last gen console versions to online service exclusive like PS Now or Cloud Gaming (Xbox)
     
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  7. Danikas Arcane

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    Somebody is really butthurt.

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    Never forget to take your meds boys.
     
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  8. Terenty Savant

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    Mind control in a world where your character can fry enemies' brains in a second and people can transfer consciousness from one body to another is such a trivial and unexciting thing. Why do you get a boner every time you find smth about it in the game?
     
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  9. Danikas Arcane

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    I like conspiracy stuff in games and this is pretty fun one since you have to connect dots yourself.
     
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  10. msxyz Augur

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    Maybe they should ask Bethesda to use Gamebryo ;) For all its faults and limitations, pop-ups and stuttering seems the worse that usually happens. And before anybody points out to the many bugs and glitches in Bethesda games, most of them are due to script errors and they get routinely solved by community patches, so it's more a matter of shoddy scripting, not the engine itself.
     
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  11. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    She had a yellowish-gray haircolor for me, which I thought was fitting. Since she has hair that can change it's color like an LED bulb, it made sense that her hair looked liked a switched off LED after she... died.

    Sad. :salute:
     
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  12. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    Problems of synchronicity. Where would we be without them. :)
     
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  13. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    Are we seriously discussing how sincere a CEO of a publicly traded company (recently experienced a sharp drop in stock price) has been in a "message to players"? :)
     
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  14. Twiglard Prophet Sad Loser

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    Nah. The game works fine on an HDD even if it's overloaded. No crashes, at worst assets pop-up. The game is full of glitches, but only few crashes and game-breaking bugs are of that variety that you know to reload immediately.

    Depends on the game, but in general you can get away with it having lots of RAM. In Cyberpunk, loading assets still takes many CPU cores and an SSD won't help against that.
     
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  15. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    The occiasional T-pose isn't really a problem for me normally, for game on that scale it's impossible to rule that out, most of the time hunting for that bug is simply not worth the time.

    It does become a problem for me however when, after seeing other players play the game, I notice that apparently EVERYONE gets the T-pose guy in front of Afterlife. A reproducable bug most, if not all playtester would have had there, yet it was not fixed.

    And then it becomes insulting to me. :obviously:
     
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  16. Perkel Arcane

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    I doubt they care about their stock. They are basically back to january 2020

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  17. KeighnMcDeath RPG Codex Boomer

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    It sure opened my eyes about T-posting. I never heard the term before. Now its everywhere....
     
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  18. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    I'm not tying the question to the stock drop, that's just context.

    My guess is this message was meant to inspire confidence in the console audience, warm them up in advance of an update which will put the game back on the playstation store. This is CDPR's real and highest priority - getting the game back on the playstation store. It's not placating PC gamers. So we shouldn't read things into it that are not there.
     
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  19. DeepOcean Arcane

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    "Affordable", here they cost three times the price of an HDD and with exception of system loading, it doesnt make any difference to wait one extra minute or so during game loading, Cyberbug loads fast anyway. Most people here buy a cheaper one just to load windows and use an HDD to install games, you need to sell your kidneys to buy a 1tb SSD. I didnt have any problems with asset loading on my HDD when I started playing but I started having problems after patch 1.05, before, the game loaded assets super fast but I notice the glitch of having PS1 like characters walking around , entire buildings, cars and NPCs never loaded their full assets with a certain frequency after that patch.

    I think they messed up with the asset streaming on PC because of the consoles, I'm pretty sure I wasnt having that problem before patch 1.05. Also, saw a few streamers with beast rigs having this problem of asset loading,maybe shit hardware makes it worse but CDPR code definitely is a piece of crap .
     
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  20. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    Why would you need a 1TB SSD? Buy a 256-540 MB one, uninstall games you don't play. Simple.
    Buy a bigger HDD to archive media (photos, films).
     
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  21. KeighnMcDeath RPG Codex Boomer

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    Well you can get a
    SAMSUNG 870 QVO SATA III 2.5" SSD 8TB (MZ-77Q8T0B) for about $860 from Amazon.

    eh... ok its not quality and a 2T is what a few hundred? They're going down.
     
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  22. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Didnt fit on my meager budget, had to sacrifice something and storage space was more important for me, maybe on the future I will buy one of 256 after the hardware prices return to acceptable levels here but I didnt see much of a point as pretty much 99,9% of games dont need a SSD for them to not fall apart, CDPR is cleary innovating here.
     
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  23. Necroscope Arcane

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    I bought a Samsung T5 recently (SSD 2TB) which cost me around $300. Definitely not affordable, but it was a worthy investment (for my music collection). My system SSD is only 223 GB, so I've always used my HDD for games indeed.
     
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  24. DeepOcean Arcane

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    300 dollars, one is actually 2000 reais for me and no, we brazillians dont earn six to seven times of what an american does, thanks to our corrupt socialist goverment. Guess Commiefornia and the rest of the US will soon taste what true socialism feels like.
     
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  25. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    Well, usually I mostly play isometric cRPGs, often with area transitions (often 1 minute on a HDD) after entering every fricking door. Or after leaving every tiny area. Cannot count the numerous hours of the loading time the SSD has saved me. Not to mention these games are simply far less irritating -> therefore more fun with faster loads.
     
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