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CD Projekt's CYBERPUNK 2077 Release Thread - Concerned For The Consoles

Discussion in 'CD Projekt Red' started by Sam Ecorners, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Explains why Bethesda does it that way. Would simply be too hard for them do otherwise amirite? Literally "fucking hell". :hahano:
     
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  2. mediocrepoet First disciple of Mediocrites Patron

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    Sounds like Industrial Espionage to me. Someone stole Bioware's playbook!
     
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  3. typical user Arbiter

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    There is a term called tech debt. I attributed the messy code to gameplay (or to general state of the game) because there is no other reason why they had to cut so many things and have only placeholder mechanics like cops spawning behind player. They had to delay the game 3 times to fix bugs and after 12 months from release we didn't get anything substantial. If the source code is hard to maintain then adding new stuff can be just as problematic. If traffic spawnpoints and navmeshes are hardcoded instead of placed down in map editor then I guess AI rework (law response using aircraft and gangs chasing player with cars) won't happen. Ever.

    The design decisions like UX, quests and open world activities were copied from Witcher to save time when they realized stuff that was promised won't be made anytime soon.
     
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  4. Justicar Dead game

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    For a total flop it's still selling very good jabronis :lol::lol::lol:

    Top 1 spot on steam and gog.

    https://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=win&filter=globaltopsellers

    https://af.gog.com/games?page=1&sort=popularity&as=1649904300

    Recent reviews on steam jumped to 83% positive :lol:

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1091500/Cyberpunk_2077/

    Im 100% sure when they release expansions and next gen version gaymers will forgive them and start shilling cyberpunk redemption story :hahano::hahano: especially if other big gayme developers will fuck up their games like Rockstars did with Gta remaster and Ea did with new battlefield.
     
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  5. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Steam users are retarded, news at 11
     
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  6. Wesp5 Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Besides that, what other decent AAA FPS/RPG hybrids are out there right now?
     
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  7. Gargaune Magister

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    Ineffective time management, unrealistic design goals, good ol' scope creep, excessively quick staffing, that rumoured internal midway reboot, remote work under the Coronavirus pandemic etc. - there's myriad other reasons development might've gone tits up. Don't read too much into a throwaway comment from Tost and also consider that you've got a designer quoted a few posts up complaining about how designing reactivity was "fucking hell" with the example of whether you take a drive with Takemura or not... I seriously doubt the code is to blame there.

    The crux of the matter is that if we entertain this notion that CBP's state is mainly due to an unmanageable codebase, you'd assume that more time to clean up would've resulted in a substantially better game. But I don't believe that's the case. More time would've helped, sure, but I doubt the fundamentals of CBP's lackluster gameplay would've changed much - e.g. it ain't "spaghetti code" that stopped CDPR making a meaningful perks system or proper itemisation.

    As to the dubious post-release lull, I think we'll get a better idea when the "next gen" edition comes out. If your suspicions are right, this extra development time should result in a material improvement to gameplay quality. If I'm right... it won't.
     
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  8. Nikanuur Learned Patron

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    I actually thought that they've actually (quite strangely) failed at at least copying the world's activities and much less quests from the W3, thus creating the exact opposite of the once-dreamt bigger, better game than the said?
     
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  9. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Realms of Arkania HD
     
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  10. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    Do Witcher 1 on a shoestring budget yet almost every quest branches in some way: flex

    Do Witcher 2 with less content but more narrative branching and one of the biggest forks in gaming: it ain't no thing brah

    Do Witcher 3 which is basically a GTA/C&C hybrid, shame Grunker's prediction that this will kill any narrative branching and thus annihilate the only worthwhile part of the Witcher-series: yeah you know we poles we pay slave wages we can build this shit you dumb danish cunt

    Do Witcher 3 with guns: HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THIS BRANCHING QUEST DESIGN THIS CANNOT BE DONE IT IS SURELY HELL
     
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  11. Tyrr Savant

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    They did the branching quest design in chapter 1. That quest in the factory where you have to buy the robot/drone was very well done. (you know, the only one they always showed people before release)

    After that money, time and/or ambition run out for the rest of the game.
     
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  12. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    the missions with Jackie were mostly really good.
    Afterwards, the game takes a noticeable nosedive in quality.
     
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  13. Gargaune Magister

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    That one quest and the game's finale, they deserve some credit for that too. The various ending quests play out differently enough, taking up Hanako's offer or trusting Johnny with Rogue, with the side option of going solo, and I didn't even get Aldelcados option. Plus the choice to bail early. You've got a nice mix of prior and on-the-spot decisions opening up different narrative and gameplay segments, not just a ending slides.

    Everything else in between, well... click button, receive Heartfelt Cinematic Moment™.
     
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  14. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    I haven't played Cyberpunk so I have no clue if it has branching quests. I'm adressing the fact that the amount of work needed for branching was apparantly a complete surprise to a company that made three games whose only worthwhile feature was a good amount of branching and C&C - the last one being just as open worlds as Cyberpunk
     
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  15. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    if you want to understand where they went wrong, compare the length of these videos



    cyberpunk has nearly as many people credited as a producer as witcher has for the entire design team
     
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  16. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    So is this game good yet?
     
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  17. Lone Wolf Arcane

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    God damn them to fucking hell for not making Judy a fuckdoll for the male protagonist.
     
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  18. Ibn Sina Savant Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In
    There is a mod for that to even have a harem of Judy and panam if you want to.
     
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  19. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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    Doesn't seem like it'll ever be. In contrast to witchers there has been almost no patching or word on major content updates. Seems abandoned tbh
     
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  20. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    That has been my impression skimming the steam page.

    Oh well, no great loss.
     
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  21. Perkel Arcane

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    Facts:
    - They are hiring non stop for C77 since release. CDPR page is still full of jobs too. "Next Gen" version is 100% in works for PS5/Xbpxserieswhateverfuckitnamewas along with TW3 "next gen" update.
    - C77 also had planned 2 expansions and huge multiplayer mode coming nearly 2 years after release (afte two expansions).
    - They recently hired team of modders who released wolvenkit for C77. They will be working on modding tools for C77.

    So probably the "enchanced edition" coming will be substential rework/expansion. PR is an eye of baholder and they probably want to concetrate good PR around launch so no reason to release major updates other than fixing bugs when overall pecepcion of game on consoles is bad.
     
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  22. Grunker RPG Codex Ghost Patron

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  23. T.Ashpool Learned

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    https://www.videogameschronicle.com...-considered-a-very-good-game-in-the-long-run/
    fresh copium from cdpr themselves. the ceo believes that cyberpunk will be seen as a good game "someday":positive:

    also confirmed no new updates, patches or dlc this year :mixedemotions:

     
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  24. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    No. And it will never be.
    CDPR isn't going to change it that much.
     
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  25. Justicar Dead game

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    https://store.steampowered.com/app/1091500/Cyberpunk_2077/

    Its already a good gayme according to steam with very positive reviews you n!ggers :lol::lol:

    Btw. Witcher 3 after 2 expansions and 7 years of discounts has 523k reviews, Cyberpunk not even a year after release with no new content added has 402k reviews talk about financial flop :hahano::hahano::hahano:
     
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