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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

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Thanks, that seems like it might be worth work checking out on a new playthrough. Same author who made Limited HUD, Game Time Tweaks and No Intro Videos, doing God's work to save CDPR's stock value.
Yeah, the same guy made something like 30 of the best mods on nexus. He is most likely employed somewhere, but if he wasn't CDPR should have been throwing money at him to join the company.

Nothing demonstrates better than the effors of a single person in his free time, how CDPR spent millions and six years time to produce less than half of an RPG.

Disagree with the highlighted. God knows CP2077 has a shit-ton of issues, but they created an amazing world populated with a ton of content. This was hard to see at first, with all the bugs and issues, but now, I am pretty blown away by how much stuff is in this game. Like the gigs, for example. Sure, they aren't the deepest quests you will ever see, but there is like 200 of them in the game or some crazy number like that, and each one has a background story, some dialogue, some interesting or touching twist to make you feel like you are an actual merc doing an actual mission, and not just earning money by engaging in combat or stealth.

To me, it seems like the issue is people expected CP2077 to be something other than it was. WIth 4 games behind their belt, we KNOW what CDProjektRed is like as a studio. Their games don't have deep gameplay mechanics, or a deep character development tree, they never did. What they have are amazing worlds, great lore and writing, interesting characters and quests.
People expected Cyberpunk to be an RPG with a lot of immersive elements and not an "open-world action-adventure story" like The Witcher, because CDPR marketed it as such. For all its false-advertisement, bugs, and mediocrity, my problem with this game is mostly that I dislike the main quest and Keanu Reeves.
 

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People expected Cyberpunk to be an RPG with a lot of immersive elements and not an "open-world action-adventure story" like The Witcher, because CDPR marketed it as such. For all its false-advertisement, bugs, and mediocrity, my problem with this game is mostly that I dislike the main quest and Keanu Reeves.
After seeing the cinematic trailer "We have a city to burn" I remember watching in-game Keanu and hoping this is some kind of a tasteless joke, and the real Keanu will jump out from somewhere and say "gotcha!"
 

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My modding list. I keep things divided into rough categories, helps me visually locate them easily in the JSGME. The three- or four-digit number after the name is the id you can fill in in your browser address bar to find the mod directly. You can quickly check what each mod does this way. I've also marked the important things:

Tools 01 Cyber Engine Tweaks 1.6-107-1-20-0-1662491024
Tools 02 redscript-1511-0-5-8-1663418970
Tools 03 Native Settings UI 1.9-3518-1-9-1662578960
Tools 04 cybercmd-5176-0-0-5-1663023319
Tools 05 red4ext_1.8.0.zip-2380-1-8-0-1662490291
Tools 06 ArchiveXL-4198-1-1-3-1662491357
Tools 07 mod_settings.zip-4885-0-0-6-1665181584
Tools 08 TweakXL-4197-1-0-7-1662573371
Tools 09 input_loader.zip-4575-0-0-6-1662660731
Tools 10 Material and Texture Override-5266-1-1-1663492843
Tools 11 Appearance Menu Mod-790-1-14-6-1665368619
Tools 12 RadioExt 1.1-4591-1-1-1654513806


Cosmetic 01 Unique Eyes - Core V2.5-1937-2-5-1645452391
Cosmetic 02 GirlLongHair-4082-1-0-1646880204
Cosmetic 03 Female V Nina Hair Open-2199-2-5-1647207903
Cosmetic 06 Lipstick 02-1042-1-1610932181
Cosmetic 07 Ava Complexions All in one-1873-1-7-1619142695
Cosmetic 08 Morph Texture Removal V1.2-2419-1-2-1645639344
Cosmetic 12 Kala's Eyes Standalone V2-3242-1-0-1632863865
Cosmetic Body 01 1.6 - Framework - Unique V Body Shape - Rig-3725-1-6-1662488013
Cosmetic Body 02 Hyst_Refit_ForcedBigBooty V1.2.1-4420-1-2-1-1658867136
Cosmetic Body 03 Vanilla Refit - ENHANCED BIG BREAST WITH BIG BOOTY-5408-1-02-1665728611
Cosmetic Body 04 Hyst_BigBreastsBody v1.0 - with BIG BOOTY-4654-1-1-1658249566
Cosmetic Body 05 Breast Jiggle Physics - enabled for TPP - FPP and Photomode-3339-1-0-1634739017
Cosmetic Body 06 Custom Breast Jiggle Physics LITE-3665-1-0-1641052740

Preset 01 Cute Character Preset for Appearance Change Unlocker-5728-2-0-1665641706

Gameplay JWL 01 JWL Cyberpunk Blackwall-5814-1-0-0-1665465367
Gameplay JWL 02 Better Netrunning-2302-0-5-2-1664769803
Gameplay JWL 03 AI Netrunners Enhanced-2468-1-4-0-1658401773
Gameplay JWL 04 Wannabe Edgerunner-5646-1-4-1-1665924006
Gameplay JWL 05 Discard Ammo On Reload-2819-1-2-3-1625248878
Gameplay JWL 06 Manual Reload-2804-1-2-4-0-1664563314
Gameplay JWL 07 Ped Damage Overhaul 2077-5066-1-19-1665257274
Gameplay JWL 08 SDO - Scissors Difficulty Options-4408-1-1-1654146164
Gameplay JWL 09 Sensible Stamina and Athletics-2861-1-6-0-1662509880
Gameplay JWL 10 SystemEx-3158-1-0-5-1665053547
Gameplay 08 Reduced Loot-2678-1-8-0-1651322685
Gameplay 25 craft_restrict-3970-0-15-1646403959
Gameplay 27 Unequip Mods Mod-2358-1-6-1662720282
Gameplay 28 Only Smartweapon Crosshairs 1.0h-5434-1-0h-1665159510
Gameplay 29 Missing Persons - Fixers Hidden Gems-5058-1-1-1-1665338220
Gameplay 11 StreetStyle_1-5-5-v2-2975-1-5-5-1663792433


Graphics 14 CP2077 Better Finer Rain V3.8-2001-3-8-1665761340
Graphics 19 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vignette OFF - Sharpening OFF - Vanilla Weather Transitions-2375-1-6-1664725889
Graphics 24 Extended and Improved Headlights 1.1-5013-1-1-1661016001
Graphics 25 Player underwear removal extended CET edition 1.6.3. Game v1.6 only-4605-1-6-3-1665415066
Graphics 26 Main NPC Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645493309
Graphics 27 Citizen Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645895901
Graphics 28 HairMaterialRetouch-2577-1-0a-1653997102
Graphics 29 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vanilla Weather Transitions - Sharpening OFF-2375-1-6-1663168447

Music 01 WhiskeyRadio-3455-1-0-1636931493
Music 03 Commentary Only-4864-1-0-1658169555
Music 04 Rise of the Machine Radio - volume fix-5357-1-1-1664060019

QoL 01 No Car Knockdown .ini config file-3139-1-1630925888
QoL 03 Advanced Control Mod 0.8.1-1902-0-8-1-1639718664
QoL 04 Cyber Vehicle Overhaul-3016-1-5-1659635349
QoL 05 Extra Vehicle Controls 2.0 Hotfix-3225-2-0h-1660752972
QoL 06 Street Vendors v1.2.6-2894-1-2-6-1657496048
QoL 07 flib's UI Improvements-2729-1-6-0-1663626480
QoL 08 Muted Markers-1727-1-8-2-1665819493
QoL 09 Hide Read Shards-2820-0-3-1660038302
QoL 10 Limited HUD-2592-2-4-4-1665825498
QoL 11 Pocket Radio 1.4-2925-1-4-1654461999
QoL 12 Custom Map Markers-3819-1-1-1-1665816525
QoL 14 Appearance Change Unlocker-3850-2-1-3-1664123326
QoL 15 everything off-4389-1-0-1650568161
QoL 17 Game time tweaks - Longer nights-870-0-2-1617043010

QoL 18 Erok Driving Tweaks - With Enabled Differenital-2948-1-01-1645639056
QoL 19 TrackWhatYouWant-4110-1-0-1647205659
QoL 23 No Intros
QoL 24 Simple Flashlight 2.2-2913-2-2-1660169964
QoL 25 Talk to Me-5534-1-2-1664653200
QoL 26 Disable 2D And 3D Effects For UI And Disable Chrom Ab-2648-1-2-1645930832
QoL 27 No Camera Auto Centering - FPP-2169-0-7-1648127540
QoL 28 No Camera Auto Centering - TPP-2169-0-7-1648127554

QoL 29 Real Vendor Names-4941-1-3-0-1659900243
QoL 30 Stash Filters-5298-1-0-0-1663660416
QoL 31 Crouch remover-535-1-0-3-1609023055
QoL 32 Enhanced Vehicle Camera v1.4.0-2202-1-4-0-1639081021
Why do you need 4 different tit physics mods?

The search for the perfect tit mod is an infinite task, enough to keep one occupied for a lifetime :)
 

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My modding list. I keep things divided into rough categories, helps me visually locate them easily in the JSGME. The three- or four-digit number after the name is the id you can fill in in your browser address bar to find the mod directly. You can quickly check what each mod does this way. I've also marked the important things:

Tools 01 Cyber Engine Tweaks 1.6-107-1-20-0-1662491024
Tools 02 redscript-1511-0-5-8-1663418970
Tools 03 Native Settings UI 1.9-3518-1-9-1662578960
Tools 04 cybercmd-5176-0-0-5-1663023319
Tools 05 red4ext_1.8.0.zip-2380-1-8-0-1662490291
Tools 06 ArchiveXL-4198-1-1-3-1662491357
Tools 07 mod_settings.zip-4885-0-0-6-1665181584
Tools 08 TweakXL-4197-1-0-7-1662573371
Tools 09 input_loader.zip-4575-0-0-6-1662660731
Tools 10 Material and Texture Override-5266-1-1-1663492843
Tools 11 Appearance Menu Mod-790-1-14-6-1665368619
Tools 12 RadioExt 1.1-4591-1-1-1654513806


Cosmetic 01 Unique Eyes - Core V2.5-1937-2-5-1645452391
Cosmetic 02 GirlLongHair-4082-1-0-1646880204
Cosmetic 03 Female V Nina Hair Open-2199-2-5-1647207903
Cosmetic 06 Lipstick 02-1042-1-1610932181
Cosmetic 07 Ava Complexions All in one-1873-1-7-1619142695
Cosmetic 08 Morph Texture Removal V1.2-2419-1-2-1645639344
Cosmetic 12 Kala's Eyes Standalone V2-3242-1-0-1632863865
Cosmetic Body 01 1.6 - Framework - Unique V Body Shape - Rig-3725-1-6-1662488013
Cosmetic Body 02 Hyst_Refit_ForcedBigBooty V1.2.1-4420-1-2-1-1658867136
Cosmetic Body 03 Vanilla Refit - ENHANCED BIG BREAST WITH BIG BOOTY-5408-1-02-1665728611
Cosmetic Body 04 Hyst_BigBreastsBody v1.0 - with BIG BOOTY-4654-1-1-1658249566
Cosmetic Body 05 Breast Jiggle Physics - enabled for TPP - FPP and Photomode-3339-1-0-1634739017
Cosmetic Body 06 Custom Breast Jiggle Physics LITE-3665-1-0-1641052740

Preset 01 Cute Character Preset for Appearance Change Unlocker-5728-2-0-1665641706

Gameplay JWL 01 JWL Cyberpunk Blackwall-5814-1-0-0-1665465367
Gameplay JWL 02 Better Netrunning-2302-0-5-2-1664769803
Gameplay JWL 03 AI Netrunners Enhanced-2468-1-4-0-1658401773
Gameplay JWL 04 Wannabe Edgerunner-5646-1-4-1-1665924006
Gameplay JWL 05 Discard Ammo On Reload-2819-1-2-3-1625248878
Gameplay JWL 06 Manual Reload-2804-1-2-4-0-1664563314
Gameplay JWL 07 Ped Damage Overhaul 2077-5066-1-19-1665257274
Gameplay JWL 08 SDO - Scissors Difficulty Options-4408-1-1-1654146164
Gameplay JWL 09 Sensible Stamina and Athletics-2861-1-6-0-1662509880
Gameplay JWL 10 SystemEx-3158-1-0-5-1665053547
Gameplay 08 Reduced Loot-2678-1-8-0-1651322685
Gameplay 25 craft_restrict-3970-0-15-1646403959
Gameplay 27 Unequip Mods Mod-2358-1-6-1662720282
Gameplay 28 Only Smartweapon Crosshairs 1.0h-5434-1-0h-1665159510
Gameplay 29 Missing Persons - Fixers Hidden Gems-5058-1-1-1-1665338220
Gameplay 11 StreetStyle_1-5-5-v2-2975-1-5-5-1663792433


Graphics 14 CP2077 Better Finer Rain V3.8-2001-3-8-1665761340
Graphics 19 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vignette OFF - Sharpening OFF - Vanilla Weather Transitions-2375-1-6-1664725889
Graphics 24 Extended and Improved Headlights 1.1-5013-1-1-1661016001
Graphics 25 Player underwear removal extended CET edition 1.6.3. Game v1.6 only-4605-1-6-3-1665415066
Graphics 26 Main NPC Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645493309
Graphics 27 Citizen Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645895901
Graphics 28 HairMaterialRetouch-2577-1-0a-1653997102
Graphics 29 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vanilla Weather Transitions - Sharpening OFF-2375-1-6-1663168447

Music 01 WhiskeyRadio-3455-1-0-1636931493
Music 03 Commentary Only-4864-1-0-1658169555
Music 04 Rise of the Machine Radio - volume fix-5357-1-1-1664060019

QoL 01 No Car Knockdown .ini config file-3139-1-1630925888
QoL 03 Advanced Control Mod 0.8.1-1902-0-8-1-1639718664
QoL 04 Cyber Vehicle Overhaul-3016-1-5-1659635349
QoL 05 Extra Vehicle Controls 2.0 Hotfix-3225-2-0h-1660752972
QoL 06 Street Vendors v1.2.6-2894-1-2-6-1657496048
QoL 07 flib's UI Improvements-2729-1-6-0-1663626480
QoL 08 Muted Markers-1727-1-8-2-1665819493
QoL 09 Hide Read Shards-2820-0-3-1660038302
QoL 10 Limited HUD-2592-2-4-4-1665825498
QoL 11 Pocket Radio 1.4-2925-1-4-1654461999
QoL 12 Custom Map Markers-3819-1-1-1-1665816525
QoL 14 Appearance Change Unlocker-3850-2-1-3-1664123326
QoL 15 everything off-4389-1-0-1650568161
QoL 17 Game time tweaks - Longer nights-870-0-2-1617043010

QoL 18 Erok Driving Tweaks - With Enabled Differenital-2948-1-01-1645639056
QoL 19 TrackWhatYouWant-4110-1-0-1647205659
QoL 23 No Intros
QoL 24 Simple Flashlight 2.2-2913-2-2-1660169964
QoL 25 Talk to Me-5534-1-2-1664653200
QoL 26 Disable 2D And 3D Effects For UI And Disable Chrom Ab-2648-1-2-1645930832
QoL 27 No Camera Auto Centering - FPP-2169-0-7-1648127540
QoL 28 No Camera Auto Centering - TPP-2169-0-7-1648127554

QoL 29 Real Vendor Names-4941-1-3-0-1659900243
QoL 30 Stash Filters-5298-1-0-0-1663660416
QoL 31 Crouch remover-535-1-0-3-1609023055
QoL 32 Enhanced Vehicle Camera v1.4.0-2202-1-4-0-1639081021
Why do you need 4 different tit physics mods?

The search for the perfect tit mod is an infinite task, enough to keep one occupied for a lifetime :)
I was hoping for natural-looking larger tits. But modders seem to be interested in that "Fake Boobs" look.

BTW I'm surprised there are no face mods around. Probably some technical reason?
 

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My modding list. I keep things divided into rough categories, helps me visually locate them easily in the JSGME. The three- or four-digit number after the name is the id you can fill in in your browser address bar to find the mod directly. You can quickly check what each mod does this way. I've also marked the important things:

Tools 01 Cyber Engine Tweaks 1.6-107-1-20-0-1662491024
Tools 02 redscript-1511-0-5-8-1663418970
Tools 03 Native Settings UI 1.9-3518-1-9-1662578960
Tools 04 cybercmd-5176-0-0-5-1663023319
Tools 05 red4ext_1.8.0.zip-2380-1-8-0-1662490291
Tools 06 ArchiveXL-4198-1-1-3-1662491357
Tools 07 mod_settings.zip-4885-0-0-6-1665181584
Tools 08 TweakXL-4197-1-0-7-1662573371
Tools 09 input_loader.zip-4575-0-0-6-1662660731
Tools 10 Material and Texture Override-5266-1-1-1663492843
Tools 11 Appearance Menu Mod-790-1-14-6-1665368619
Tools 12 RadioExt 1.1-4591-1-1-1654513806


Cosmetic 01 Unique Eyes - Core V2.5-1937-2-5-1645452391
Cosmetic 02 GirlLongHair-4082-1-0-1646880204
Cosmetic 03 Female V Nina Hair Open-2199-2-5-1647207903
Cosmetic 06 Lipstick 02-1042-1-1610932181
Cosmetic 07 Ava Complexions All in one-1873-1-7-1619142695
Cosmetic 08 Morph Texture Removal V1.2-2419-1-2-1645639344
Cosmetic 12 Kala's Eyes Standalone V2-3242-1-0-1632863865
Cosmetic Body 01 1.6 - Framework - Unique V Body Shape - Rig-3725-1-6-1662488013
Cosmetic Body 02 Hyst_Refit_ForcedBigBooty V1.2.1-4420-1-2-1-1658867136
Cosmetic Body 03 Vanilla Refit - ENHANCED BIG BREAST WITH BIG BOOTY-5408-1-02-1665728611
Cosmetic Body 04 Hyst_BigBreastsBody v1.0 - with BIG BOOTY-4654-1-1-1658249566
Cosmetic Body 05 Breast Jiggle Physics - enabled for TPP - FPP and Photomode-3339-1-0-1634739017
Cosmetic Body 06 Custom Breast Jiggle Physics LITE-3665-1-0-1641052740

Preset 01 Cute Character Preset for Appearance Change Unlocker-5728-2-0-1665641706

Gameplay JWL 01 JWL Cyberpunk Blackwall-5814-1-0-0-1665465367
Gameplay JWL 02 Better Netrunning-2302-0-5-2-1664769803
Gameplay JWL 03 AI Netrunners Enhanced-2468-1-4-0-1658401773
Gameplay JWL 04 Wannabe Edgerunner-5646-1-4-1-1665924006
Gameplay JWL 05 Discard Ammo On Reload-2819-1-2-3-1625248878
Gameplay JWL 06 Manual Reload-2804-1-2-4-0-1664563314
Gameplay JWL 07 Ped Damage Overhaul 2077-5066-1-19-1665257274
Gameplay JWL 08 SDO - Scissors Difficulty Options-4408-1-1-1654146164
Gameplay JWL 09 Sensible Stamina and Athletics-2861-1-6-0-1662509880
Gameplay JWL 10 SystemEx-3158-1-0-5-1665053547
Gameplay 08 Reduced Loot-2678-1-8-0-1651322685
Gameplay 25 craft_restrict-3970-0-15-1646403959
Gameplay 27 Unequip Mods Mod-2358-1-6-1662720282
Gameplay 28 Only Smartweapon Crosshairs 1.0h-5434-1-0h-1665159510
Gameplay 29 Missing Persons - Fixers Hidden Gems-5058-1-1-1-1665338220
Gameplay 11 StreetStyle_1-5-5-v2-2975-1-5-5-1663792433


Graphics 14 CP2077 Better Finer Rain V3.8-2001-3-8-1665761340
Graphics 19 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vignette OFF - Sharpening OFF - Vanilla Weather Transitions-2375-1-6-1664725889
Graphics 24 Extended and Improved Headlights 1.1-5013-1-1-1661016001
Graphics 25 Player underwear removal extended CET edition 1.6.3. Game v1.6 only-4605-1-6-3-1665415066
Graphics 26 Main NPC Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645493309
Graphics 27 Citizen Breast Physics-3900-1-1-1645895901
Graphics 28 HairMaterialRetouch-2577-1-0a-1653997102
Graphics 29 Eye Adaptation Auto Exposure Fix - Vanilla Weather Transitions - Sharpening OFF-2375-1-6-1663168447

Music 01 WhiskeyRadio-3455-1-0-1636931493
Music 03 Commentary Only-4864-1-0-1658169555
Music 04 Rise of the Machine Radio - volume fix-5357-1-1-1664060019

QoL 01 No Car Knockdown .ini config file-3139-1-1630925888
QoL 03 Advanced Control Mod 0.8.1-1902-0-8-1-1639718664
QoL 04 Cyber Vehicle Overhaul-3016-1-5-1659635349
QoL 05 Extra Vehicle Controls 2.0 Hotfix-3225-2-0h-1660752972
QoL 06 Street Vendors v1.2.6-2894-1-2-6-1657496048
QoL 07 flib's UI Improvements-2729-1-6-0-1663626480
QoL 08 Muted Markers-1727-1-8-2-1665819493
QoL 09 Hide Read Shards-2820-0-3-1660038302
QoL 10 Limited HUD-2592-2-4-4-1665825498
QoL 11 Pocket Radio 1.4-2925-1-4-1654461999
QoL 12 Custom Map Markers-3819-1-1-1-1665816525
QoL 14 Appearance Change Unlocker-3850-2-1-3-1664123326
QoL 15 everything off-4389-1-0-1650568161
QoL 17 Game time tweaks - Longer nights-870-0-2-1617043010

QoL 18 Erok Driving Tweaks - With Enabled Differenital-2948-1-01-1645639056
QoL 19 TrackWhatYouWant-4110-1-0-1647205659
QoL 23 No Intros
QoL 24 Simple Flashlight 2.2-2913-2-2-1660169964
QoL 25 Talk to Me-5534-1-2-1664653200
QoL 26 Disable 2D And 3D Effects For UI And Disable Chrom Ab-2648-1-2-1645930832
QoL 27 No Camera Auto Centering - FPP-2169-0-7-1648127540
QoL 28 No Camera Auto Centering - TPP-2169-0-7-1648127554

QoL 29 Real Vendor Names-4941-1-3-0-1659900243
QoL 30 Stash Filters-5298-1-0-0-1663660416
QoL 31 Crouch remover-535-1-0-3-1609023055
QoL 32 Enhanced Vehicle Camera v1.4.0-2202-1-4-0-1639081021
Why do you need 4 different tit physics mods?

The search for the perfect tit mod is an infinite task, enough to keep one occupied for a lifetime :)
I was hoping for natural-looking larger tits. But modders seem to be interested in that "Fake Boobs" look.

BTW I'm surprised there are no face mods around. Probably some technical reason?

Some mods for Skyrim managed to get the "large-ish natural hangers" look that I'm fond of right - I think it's just a question of having enough polygons and the right morphs. But I can't think of examples from any other games. Skyrim is certainly the most advanced in this area.

*ahem* that's probably TMI :)
 

Gargaune

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I've heard it before but Cyberpunk is really more of an inmersive sim than an RPG.

It kind of almost does approach that in a few quests, but most of the quests aren't developed enough to really characterize it that way fully. You can tell that that was the original intention, there are so many vestiges of it dotted around, but it's basically only sketched in with the extant, obviously unfinished (apart from the Johnny/V story) game.

I do believe that the first proper big quest, the All Foods/Maelstrom quest, shows what they really wanted to do, but the vast majority of the quests aren't nearly as well done as that from the immersive sim/C&C p.o.v.
Gentlemen, I grant you I have a rather "particular" perspective on Immersive Sims, but this ain't the droid you're looking for. At the point you can't even drop items from your inventory, it's obvious that the devs had a completely different design philosophy in mind. Looking Glass wasn't on the menu here and any similarities are purely accidental.

This is the one, but you need to download the mp3s from youtube. The author can't upload them to nexus: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/5868

With RadioExt you can create any playlist you want and add it to the ingame radio. And with Pocket Radio you can listen to it while you are on foot. It even turns itself down a bit when you get into a conversation.
Nice, cheers! There's dividends in slapping a better game's soundtrack onto something you're more lukewarm on, it's like the fond memories rub off on it. It's probably part of the reason I don't hate Fo3 and 4 like the average Codexer, I played them properly - with the STALKER soundtrack.
 

KVVRR

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I've heard it before but Cyberpunk is really more of an inmersive sim than an RPG.
That's giving it way too much credit. It's just an action game. I'd put it in the same category as something like Prototype.
Action games don't get nearly as much enviromental detail nor quest design as Cyberpunk does though. Even in more recent ones like the Spiderman ones the city is just a backdrop for you to swing your way over, most personalized detail you'll get is a few unique buildings designed for the setting - the rest is just New York. Buildings, buildings and more buildings. If you just drive around in cyberpunk you'll find something unique in no time. Be it either loot, small stories, easter eggs, or enviromental storytelling.
That's outside of the quests as a whole. action games almost never allow you to have more than one solution to a problem, let alone different quest results.
This is not to say that cyberpunk is 100% an inmersive sim though, it doesn't quite reach there like Gurugeorge pointed out. Just that it's more that than it is an RPG.
 

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People who trash CP2077 remind me of 2 village idiots stuck up to their throat in a river of shit, and a decently made boat is floating by, and instead of going after it, they start point out flaws with it: Oh look Bill, the wood on the right side is unfinished, and by God, there is a small hole at the front.

In the age of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, and Outer Turds and Divinity Original Shit, these guys actually make a good game (after a rough release, granted), and these people are whining like they got year long constipation. Boo hoo...
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People who trash CP2077 remind me of 2 village idiots stuck up to their throat in a river of shit, and a decently made boat is floating by, and instead of going after it, they start point out flaws with it: Oh look Bill, the wood on the right side is unfinished, and by God, there is a small hole at the front.

In the age of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, and Outer Turds and Divinity Original Shit, these guys actually make a good game (after a rough release, granted), and these people are whining like they got year long constipation. Boo hoo...
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Some mods for Skyrim managed to get the "large-ish natural hangers" look that I'm fond of right - I think it's just a question of having enough polygons and the right morphs. But I can't think of examples from any other games. Skyrim is certainly the most advanced in this area.

*ahem* that's probably TMI :)
I remember that mod, oh yes. :lol: CCBE or something like that.

Skyrim is not the most advanced in terms of ease of customization. There are whole "games" based around the idea of customizing a 3d character and directing your own sex scenes or photoshoots. Compared to that, Skyrim and Cyberpunk are nothing to write home about in terms of variety and UI quality. But they are not specialized to be used for that purpose after all.

Nice, cheers! There's dividends in slapping a better game's soundtrack onto something you're more lukewarm on, it's like the fond memories rub off on it. It's probably part of the reason I don't hate Fo3 and 4 like the average Codexer, I played them properly - with the STALKER soundtrack.
Actually, I've always been a fan of 40s-early 60s music since I first played Grim Fandango, so I didn't mind the nu-Fallouts for the music.

I might try out Deus Ex's music in Cyberpunk but what I really should do is give Deus Ex another run, after so many years.

I'm curious what I can achieve as an experience with an 80s soundtrack. From the perspective of the 2070s, let's see what songs we could find from 90 years ago which carry messages that are relevant in "our day".
 
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I'm curious what I can achieve as an experience with an 80s soundtrack. From the perspective of the 2070s, let's see what songs we could find from 90 years ago which carry messages that are relevant in "our day".
Start with Judas Priest's Electric Eye. Gets more relevant day by fucking day.
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About general alienation & atomization, although it would also fit with the theme of cyberpsychosis if we're talking about a cyberpunk soundtrack - same (and perhaps even more so) with She's Lost Control from the same band. 1979 releases tho.

Also, for 1980s proper stuff, a lot of Depeche Mode hits would fit imho (and perhaps some Alphaville ones).
 

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In the age of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, and Outer Turds and Divinity Original Shit, these guys actually make a good game (after a rough release, granted), and these people are whining like they got year long constipation. Boo hoo...
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People who trash CP2077 remind me of 2 village idiots stuck up to their throat in a river of shit, and a decently made boat is floating by, and instead of going after it, they start point out flaws with it: Oh look Bill, the wood on the right side is unfinished, and by God, there is a small hole at the front.

In the age of Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, and Outer Turds and Divinity Original Shit, these guys actually make a good game (after a rough release, granted), and these people are whining like they got year long constipation. Boo hoo...
The unrelenting torrent of abuse is sustained by butthurt console faggots still traumatized by how lackluster the game is compared to the PC version even on their current year toasters.

Most of the PC base have made peace with the game at this point. It's never going to be what we wanted it to be. It's systemically weak from every angle, a cardinal sin for an RPG, but it's still a technical marvel at times with glimpses of brilliance in story telling and world building that far outmatch any of its peers in the whirling whirlpool of shit the gaming industry has become. It's a mediocre oasis with a few puddles of non-contaminated water in a desert of shit.
 

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Gargaune Heroic Liberator , both songs are great, and I'll add them to the playlist. Keem them coming if you think of more. I'll take some time later to explain the rationale for me when making the playlist (it's linked on the previous page).

I had an amazing time, not exaggerating, going through the Heist with all the limitations imposed by the gameplay mods. Gargaune will be especially interested.

1. I've balanced out my build rather evenly between stats. I have Street Style enabled, which adds stat bonuses to clothes according to fashion (Kitsch, Entropism, Neokitsch, Neomilitarism, etc.), but also raises the stat checks for actions. I don't know if this matters, but I'm also playing at the recommended Very High difficulty.

As a result of this, and other mods, I wasn't even able to hack cameras and objects before first breaching the network. However, since my stats were too low, I couldn't even breach the network through the standard access points. I had to grab a security guy and while grabbing him, choose Breach Network to jack into the network through him. This uploads the daemons automatically, with no hacking minigame - a reward for having snuck up on the enemy. A nice touch - you can jack into an unconscious enemy, or while you are holding him, but not after you've killed him. Makes sense :)
 

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2. It was theoretically possible to shoot my way through, but with just 6 rounds for Yorinobu's pistol and 25 rounds for the Shigure SMG I picked up from the first guard I dropped, and with how lethal combat is, and with how I lack in mobility due to the Blackwall mod's decrease of movement speed, it was better to just sneak out withot ever engaging. As an added bonus, it felt like the more canonical approach, what with this being Arasaka security, and Jackie being badly wounded. This was actually my first ever going through the Heist undetected. At release I even thought it was scripted that you would get discovered at some point. Apparently not, and you are also rewarded for sneaking, with fewer enemies spawning on your way towards the garage. When you reach the elevator to the garage Jackie makes a comment that you've been undetected so far, ironically right before he shouts his scripted "To the Elevator! Now!" or something like that :) Anyway, another point for CDPR's designers, but it's thanks to the modders that I had to discover this.

There was just a little bit of save/load due to being discovered, mostly because of unwanted triggering of forward dodge and "accitentally exposing" myself. Still, I don't mind that, and as a veteran player of sneaker games, I don't find stealth that difficult.
 

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3. The scarcity of ammo suddenly made the throwing knives perk very welcome. I wish it was possible to make silent takedowns with the knife, for RP's sake, but throwing knives will do as well. I value this very much - nudging the player to diversifying and hedging his toolset is good design, and results naturally from balance changes made by mods. It's quite miraculous how mods from different authors working independently complement each other so well. Especially compared to a disfunctional "intelligent design" that came from a multimillion dollar-funded project, but I digress...

The scripted sequence with Takemura in his car was a bit tough, because you have to shoot at least once at an enemy in each section of the sequence in order to trigger his crashing animation, and you are short on ammo. You also have to be lucky enough not to get shot more than once. It took me two attempts, so it wasn't a big deal.

Overall, great experience, of a kind which I didn't expect I could have in this game honestly. Still, the Heist is a rather railroaded mission and I'm just lvl 7, so it's not unlikely that the game will get much easier once I start doing open world missions. I'll test some more and see.
 
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Thanks, that seems like it might be worth work checking out on a new playthrough. Same author who made Limited HUD, Game Time Tweaks and No Intro Videos, doing God's work to save CDPR's stock value.
Yeah, the same guy made something like 30 of the best mods on nexus. He is most likely employed somewhere, but if he wasn't CDPR should have been throwing money at him to join the company.

Nothing demonstrates better than the effors of a single person in his free time, how CDPR spent millions and six years time to produce less than half of an RPG.

Disagree with the highlighted. God knows CP2077 has a shit-ton of issues, but they created an amazing world populated with a ton of content. This was hard to see at first, with all the bugs and issues, but now, I am pretty blown away by how much stuff is in this game. Like the gigs, for example. Sure, they aren't the deepest quests you will ever see, but there is like 200 of them in the game or some crazy number like that, and each one has a background story, some dialogue, some interesting or touching twist to make you feel like you are an actual merc doing an actual mission, and not just earning money by engaging in combat or stealth.

To me, it seems like the issue is people expected CP2077 to be something other than it was. WIth 4 games behind their belt, we KNOW what CDProjektRed is like as a studio. Their games don't have deep gameplay mechanics, or a deep character development tree, they never did. What they have are amazing worlds, great lore and writing, interesting characters and quests.
People expected Cyberpunk to be an RPG with a lot of immersive elements and not an "open-world action-adventure story" like The Witcher, because CDPR marketed it as such. For all its false-advertisement, bugs, and mediocrity, my problem with this game is mostly that I dislike the main quest and Keanu Reeves.

I expected it to be Witcher 3 in Cyberpunk. Unfortunately it’s way less interesting and essentially mediocre and forgettable
 

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Here is an uncorroborated anecdotal story from an anonymous source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/y4m5my/comment/isi1sm8/
I am a music agent. The weirdest thing I've ever had to do is arrange armed guard detail for her & her entourage during an Asia DJ tour for her, because someone in her entourage pisses off the local mafia - picking out what kind of weapons thwy would carry, all with a different rental price etc.

I have done 1200+ shows in Asia with hundreds of artists. We did Sasha for the novelty value.

Let me be clear - Sasha Gray & her entourage were the worst people I have EVER worked with.

Her and her friends ran up bills at a hotel, buying loads of stuff from the gift shop (they even had a ltd edition iPod there - it was a Phillip Starck designed hotel in Hong Kong - of course they helped themselves to a few of these), running up a bill of over five thousand dollars and running off.

There was a similar story for almost every show on the tour.

I am disappointed to hear the c**t is in this game.
 
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so she got experience with asian mafia? Sounds like a good placement in tiger gang territory
 

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