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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by Minttunator, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. The_Sloth_Sleeps Learned

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    Not sure where you came up with this idea, or why you think that way. Perhaps you are a beginner and if so then yes, do chess tactical puzzles. Indeed some tactical training is essential for everyone, to avoid blunders.

    Compared to your idea, my reasoning about training with puzzles is pretty well established, and perhaps better explained by someone else like GM Igor Smirnov https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/2ha1ep/tactical_puzzles_do_they_help/

    Theres other training methods that help develop calculation strength. I recommend something like this https://chessfox.com/improve-chess-tactics/

    Anyway, there are some interesting studies done on chess calculation with some surprising findings (citation needed)!
     
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  2. coldcrow Prophet Patron

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    Okay, there is something of a language barrier and laziness in explanation on my part here.
    1st: I have around 2250 elo, so not really a beginner
    2nd: With "puzzles" I do not mean the usual stuff printed in books for ages. What is important is for example knowledge of motives and training in general thinking techniques (clear abstraction, no re-caclulating and so on and forth). For example Polgars 2 huge books (middlegames/endgames) contain a wealth of typical structures which are good study now and then.
    3rd: still doing puzzles now and then is exactly good for training calculation as a skill, which was my main point. To clearly picture variants in your mind and solve them in short time. That is a very valuable skill.
     
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  3. The_Sloth_Sleeps Learned

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    I see. By "puzzles" I am referring to those on Chess.com and Lichess, just by doing loads and loads of these is not really all that great a way to improve.
    Often these puzzles are doing many dumb things like just for example, e.g. I make a move and get 4.7+ in position, but NO puzzle says theres a 5.2+ better move. This is really unrealistic way to learn.
     
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  4. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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  5. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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    :obviously:

    Reminds me of Friday evening club games.
     
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  6. coldcrow Prophet Patron

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    Today's game was another shining example of his refusal to actually win more games. I mean, spending 1h in a known position on a logical move. WTF. This guy better not qualify, MC will just destroy him.
     
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  7. Chunkyman Savant

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    Grischuk lost on tiebreaks in the 2012(?) Candidates and is 3-time Blitz World Champion, I think he's a lot more dangerous than people are giving him credit for even though he's drawn all of his games so far.
     
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  8. Syl Arbiter

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    If you don't already know about it, I really like this channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/AGADMATOR/videos

    Short and yet in-depth analysis of games, by every known modern or historical players. Incredibly entertaining.

    Over a thousand videos to enjoy. The playlists are also very well made.
     
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  10. and 8 others Educated

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    Holy shit, this banter blitz match between Carlsen and Firouzja was intense.

    Firouzja is going to be a force to contend with in the coming years.
     
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  11. Shaewaroz Arcane

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    Gotta start following this thread. Hello to all chess enthusiasts.

    Started watching this guy's videos and got hooked to Chess.com. Another corona chess victim confirmed.

     
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  13. coldcrow Prophet Patron

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    Finally a new talent who might be able to break into the top10 very early in his career.
     
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  14. Doktor Best Arcane

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    Did you go into the puzzles as complete beginner or did you have prior experience? How did you start at 800?

    I'm currently trying to get into chess as a complete rookie. Reading Yasser Seirawans "Beginning Chess Tactics" right now, which does a good job teaching the basics of tactics as far as i can tell. I'm not even on 1k puzzle rating on chess.com though with about 200 puzzles tried.
     
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  15. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff

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    800 is probably the starter rating the site gives you. I have close to 2000 DWZ (deutsche wertzahl) which required years of study and practice to reach, so I'm definitely not a beginner.
     
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  16. Country_Gravy Arcane Patron

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    Keep at it, bro. Chess is great if you like to learn shit and compete. Even if you suck, it's still fun to keep getting better even in small increments. It's the best turn based combat ever invented.

    Computers are starting to ruin it for the people that actually can attempt to solve the puzzle of the 64 squares. For you and me, we have infinite progress to make. It's awesome.
     
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  18. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    Got Chess Ultra in the Humble Monthly if anyone wants to game.
     
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  19. abnaxus Arcane Patron

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