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Incline Chris Avellone Appreciation Station

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Crooked Bee, Jul 27, 2015.

  1. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    the best thing that sawyer did during the development of NV was keep his hands off anything that mattered
     
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  2. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    narrative designer is to a writer as CYOA books are to regular books

    the idea that they're fundamentally the same is how you end up with movie games
     
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  3. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    Isn't it 41%?
     
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  4. <3sRichardSimmons Arcane Patron

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    Nonsense. Josh directly mandated the gun-porn side of things (and iirc was directly responsible for most of the itemization design and implementation), wrote Hanlon (arguably the best character in the base game), and pushed back strongly when Feargus and Parker suggested the design be more in line with FO3 than FO1&2 for the sake of commercial continuity. His most major failure as PL was overestimating the capabilities of Obsidian's programmers and underestimating what a piece of shit Frankensteined engine Gamebryo is.

    He made other mistakes too -as much as I love it, Beyond the Beef probably should have been cut, and I'm definitely not here to defend Caravan- , but most of what's good in NV has his fingerprints on it.
     
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  5. CthuluIsSpy Arcane

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    Yeah, Beyond the Beef didn't feel right to me. It always felt pretty jank imo.
     
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  6. Tihskael Educated

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    Were it not for the bugs, Beyond the Beef would have been the best quest in the game.
     
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  7. Blackshirt Learned

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    A quick google search tells me that narrative designers basically ensure the presence of c&c and do not do any actual writing on their own. Meaning that Chrissy did in fact in all likelihood not write jack and was mostly hired for clout.
     
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  8. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    Narrative designers are what they call people who do more than just write text. Owlcat has no "writers," it only has narrative designers. That being said, they mentioned that Avellone did no specific writing for Wrath, he just did the same thing he did for Kingmaker minus Nok Nok.

    Take that, subtract the Nok-Nok paragraph.
     
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  9. Trashos Arcane

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    Hanlon is the worst written character out of the main ones. Sawyer did some good work on NV, but Hanlon isn't any of it.
     
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  10. Yosharian Magister

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    Beyond the Beef is a brilliant quest when it actually works. It mostly does, now, if you play with VNV or some other patched/bugfixed version of the game.
     
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  11. Blackshirt Learned

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    Isn't Komzolov credited as "Lead Writer"?
     
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  12. Trashos Arcane

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    You can disagree all you want, bitches. It does not change the fact that Hanlon is responsible for some of the most boring writing known to mankind. I challenge you to go through all his dialogue tree without yawning the first time you meet him. You all probably remember just the suicide scene.
     
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    I called bullshit on his entire plan and the fact that I couldn't smash in his office door because I could smell his suicide from a mile away.
     
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    If you ratdiplomacy peasants failed to convince him to peacefully step down, you deserve to be miserable. :obviously:
     
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  15. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Lmao why would I even bother.
     
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  16. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    :rpgcodex:

    In other news, Josh Sawyer did some talk for DStars Connect earlier this year.



    I'm not going to watch it because I don't care. However someone on 4chan claims he says the following things about Chris when asked about him:

    "I used to consider him a friend, but I don't think he likes me."
    "I respect him professionally, so I wont go into any more detail."

    Seems like something Josh would say even if made up. +M
     
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  17. Ninjerk Arcane

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    There's no Q&A in the video you linked FYI.

    EDIT: I did 2x the video and 5 second skipped a bit but I'm pretty sure it isn't there, in any case.
     
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  18. Abu Antar Prestigious Gentleman Tweet, tweet Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    It probably doesn't mean much, but he has a new profile and header image on twitter. I don't know if it's just a random picture, something hugely popular that I should know about, or if it's a teaser.
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    For a moment I thought it's from the move District 9, but after looking into it (a bit) this seems to be an art made by "Cornelius Dämmrich" (and is nothing more than that).

    Some other stuff of his can be found here, if anyone is interested: https://www.artstation.com/zomtech
     
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  20. Wunderbar Arcane

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    Based Todd invited Chris to work on Starfield [​IMG]
     
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    Show Spoiler

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  22. Blackshirt Learned

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    Dead Money wasn't very good.
     
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  23. MpuMngwana Savant

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    Dead Money was very good.
     
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  24. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    t. Father Elijah
     
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  25. Major_Blackhart Codexia Lord Sodom Patron

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    I thought dead money was good. They were all decent in their own way, with different quirks and styles to them.

    Edit: But this isn't about FONV. IT's about MCA.
     
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