CKII is released.

[RK47]

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Our water will mingle with your water.

The hell that means?

 

[Sranchammer]

Yeah ends up leaving you a bit depressed that banal shit boring Catholicism, Protestantism and Islam are the top dogs of religion today.

They used to be bad ass. Used to be.

 

[Average Manatee]

Yeah ends up leaving you a bit depressed that banal shit boring Catholicism, Protestantism and Islam are the top dogs of religion today. Why can't it be something cool like Solar-Christianity, Neo-Platonism, Zoroastrianism or Mithraism?

Anthropic principle.

 

[RK47]

Amen

 

[Irenaeus]

Go go go crusader!

 

[RK47]

Rum's collpasing. Golden Horde already making headway into Muslim territory. Still waiting for the Muslims (The Ayyubids must've been broken 3-4 times into smaller separatist kingdoms - I had CB Holy War on one of their smaller break-away - only to lose CB when they reformed and went under a new liege lord) to grow weak enough to capture Jerusalem. But so far so good. Sultanate of Rum declared war. I raised 20,000 crusaders , 10,000 mercs and 6,000 levy in reply. Held him back for so long and he surrendered, paying around 1000 gold in war reparations.

Used the gold to replenish the merc forces, and broke the truce to capture Minor Armenia off the Rums.
Looking good at the moment for the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

Spoiler

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Wouldn't Alexandria and its surroundings have been an economically superior conquest?

 

[RK47]

This expansion isn't really planned. I was waiting for Ayyubids to grow weaker, but suddenly The Rum declared war on me. I held them off, got lots of money and realized I must've wiped out half of their army (20k+) during the wars. Decided to capitalize and capture the already weakened cities. Hit warscore 100% very quickly and chug down that territory.

The issue with declaring Holy War on Ayyubids is that they have more stronger Islam neighbors around that can threaten our home territories. Rum doesn't seem to have any. And conquest can really just focus on slapping their army back and forth while a siege force slowly chip away at their holdings.

 

[Irenaeus]

Yes, but its harder to defeat the sultanate.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

 

[Average Manatee]

Wow, brony content.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Wow, brony content.

Nah it's a reference to Caligula and his horse.

 

[Fens]

Wow, brony content.

Nah it's a reference to Caligula and his horse.

well ... it is called "Glitterhoof" here instead of Incitatus

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Wow, brony content.

Nah it's a reference to Caligula and his horse.

well ... it is called "Glitterhoof" here instead of Incitatus

I'm putting that on comedic effect.

 

[RK47]

God wills it

Spoiler

1274 - The Crusade for Anatolia begins in earnest, sensing the Sultanate of Rum's weakeness, the Pope calls for the faithful to battle... The Kingdom of Jerusalem participated into the holy endeavor - in its mid-stages.

Not wanting to fall behind in contributing to the Holy See, we're forced to do the unthinkable. We assassinate the leading contributors, the leader of the Teutonic Knights, Hochmeister Magnus. With him out of the way, his order withdrew from the war.

Paving way for God's Heavenly Kingdom to take the first place..

The Kingdom of Anatolia is gifted to his son, Prince Jesus of Jerusalem. Fearing the Golden Horde, the King of Jerusalem immediately arranged for the marraige of his daughter to the Khan. The tribal chief accepted, but it is unknown if this will keep Jerusalem safe from future Golden Horde attacks. For now, Rum is the victim.

1289

The battle for Holy City begins anew, this time the Kingdom stands alone.

Thousands of Holy Orders and Crusaders bathed in blood of the heathens as nearly a hundred thousand strong troops clash over the holy land. Victorious, yet materially broke - the Kingdom of Jerusalem is still in danger as it stands alone - on the gateway to the holy land.

1290

Good news from the North, as the Ilkhans are beaten back by the Kingdom of Rus.

The heathens are driven back for now. But they'll be back. We must remain ever vigilant.

 

[Mortmal]

God wills it

Spoiler

1274 - The Crusade for Anatolia begins in earnest, sensing the Sultanate of Rum's weakeness, the Pope calls for the faithful to battle... The Kingdom of Jerusalem participated into the holy endeavor - in its mid-stages.

Not wanting to fall behind in contributing to the Holy See, we're forced to do the unthinkable. We assassinate the leading contributors, the leader of the Teutonic Knights, Hochmeister Magnus. With him out of the way, his order withdrew from the war.

Paving way for God's Heavenly Kingdom to take the first place..

The Kingdom of Anatolia is gifted to his son, Prince Jesus of Jerusalem. Fearing the Golden Horde, the King of Jerusalem immediately arranged for the marraige of his daughter to the Khan. The tribal chief accepted, but it is unknown if this will keep Jerusalem safe from future Golden Horde attacks. For now, Rum is the victim.

1289

The battle for Holy City begins anew, this time the Kingdom stands alone.

Thousands of Holy Orders and Crusaders bathed in blood of the heathens as nearly a hundred thousand strong troops clash over the holy land. Victorious, yet materially broke - the Kingdom of Jerusalem is still in danger as it stands alone - on the gateway to the holy land.

1290

Good news from the North, as the Ilkhans are beaten back by the Kingdom of Rus.

The heathens are driven back for now. But they'll be back. We must remain ever vigilant.

Those screens sums up well why CK2 is so great, even i inever thought about assassinating the biggest contributor of a crusade to gain the lands and god knows i done wicked stuff in there.

 

[RK47]

We've done a lot of good. Just look at Europe. They're so strong. We've done thankless jobs. There's no fucking way the Golden Horde will spread that easily now.

 

[Kattze]

In my previous game, the Il-Khans conquered Persia and some parts of Rus while the Golden horde had conquered Egypt. o_O

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Currently I'm taking a break from CK2, waiting for the pagan expansion.

 

[RK47]

In my previous game, the Il-Khans conquered Persia and some parts of Rus while the Golden horde had conquered Egypt. o_O

They took Iceland on my last playthrough. ICELAND.

 

[RK47]

With friends like these...

Also , it seems ironic that despite some hard core crusading - non-pope incited mind you, I was hardly given any help from any Christian Kingdoms. Even the damn Pope doesn't send any gold my way.

And the lack of any special bonuses for taking Jerusalem is pretty huge downer, the box says Crusader Kings II , but the gameplay doesn't seem to reflect that. It's mostly Euro Kingdoms squabbling for Euro territories and since Muslims are so plenty in the Holy Land, might as well just stick to warring European nations and pick on those weak duchy claims.

 

[IDtenT]

Religion mechanics need improvement and it'll probably get it somewhere down the line.

 

[rogozhin]

And the lack of any special bonuses for taking Jerusalem is pretty huge downer

I'm pretty sure there's quite a big prestige + piety bonus for creating the Kingdom of Jerusalem (at least there was when I last played CK2, which was even before Sword of Islam), but that doesn't apply to your situation of course.

 

[Malakal]

But its realistic, crusading was rare and organized in crusades. Or you bashed your local pagans/muslims. Anyway the bread and butter was bashing the heads of your neighbors. Game reflects that very well.

 

[Fens]

holy wars are fine... as long as you do them for the right guys

...unfortunately i'm about to get into trouble with the horde soon, unless i can make them implode