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Might and Magic Confessions of a Save Scummer

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Invictus, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. Faded_Memories Female Quota Staff Patron

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    Haha, not using consumables is also a classic. These 1d8 health potions will serve me well in endgame on my 200 hp fighters :positive:
     
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  2. Testownia Guest

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    I have terrible OCD and am a perfectionist, so save scumming is absolutely necessary for me not to go insane. On the other hand, my perfectionism also means that I burden myself with additional "challenges." For example, my OCD would kick in so bad when I saw the "damage taken" statistic rise on my Watcher, that I ended the game having taken a total of 12.6 points of damage.
     
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  3. Sykar Arcane

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    They should make hit point barrels instead of potions, then I can name my potion making druid Miraculix and my tanking figher Obelix with my rogue being Asterix!
     
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  4. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    The best way to break the habit is to get into playing roguelikes.
     
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  5. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I am also guilty of savescumming: if a character dies I reload and try again.

    But savescumming to exploit the random loot generator before opening chests? That's on a whole other level.

    Get help man.

    Also, please never enter a casino, I fear it would lead to bad consequences for your financial wellbeing.
     
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  6. oasis789 Arcane

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    If you're going to reload and reroll an outcome, why not just edit saves or hack memory to get the outcome you want directly.
     
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  7. BarãodoDesterro Literate

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    I would mention know how.

    But I would highlight the feeling of accomplishment: abusing game mechanics feels very different than cheating.
     
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  8. Gargaune Savant

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    The Codex needs a Quicksave button.
     
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  9. mondblut Arcane

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    When facing a choice between pulling a second best weapon in game and some mid-tier crap no one in your party can't even use anyway, you'd be a fool not to persevere until you have it your way.
     
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  10. Gregz Arcane

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    I’m playing a mod that drops equipment tailored for the build you choose. It minimizes the need for savescumming, and does a good job of preventing inventory overflow.
     
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  11. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I just press the Awesome Button. Saving time beats save scumming.
     
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  12. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Yeah using Cheat Engine is just a shortcut to repetitive shit like savescumming chests
     
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  13. barghwata Savant

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    Some words of wisdom to all the addicts in this thread, from old bethesda before they lost their way......

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. RayF Arcane Patron Developer

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    I don't mind people save-scumming in ROTP. If that's what they find fun, then so be it. If they want to reload until that artifact planet gives them the tech they want, ok.

    Then I thought, well maybe I should have an "Iron Man" mode with no saves that you have to play from start to finish without shutting down the game. If you win that, then you get a special victory screen. Then I remembered the game was open-source and knew it was pointless to even bother with that.
     
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  15. Boddler Educated

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    who are you monsters?

    go play on a forum for toys.

    a game has rules. you aren't playing a game when you play with your fantasy story crpgs this way.
     
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  16. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    It's cheating. Developers placing it directly infront of players without clearly stating as much is a problem.
     
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  17. CappenVarra phase-based phantasmist Patron

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    wrong

    Save is just being able to continue (and not having to finish the game in one sitting like a coin-op arcade)

    rampant Load is the actual problem: a bunch of load-scumming babies loading everytime they don't get candy

    fortunately Unity games discourage this by taking ages to load a save
     
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  18. Invictus Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    Curiously Daggerfall is one of the games I dont sacescum; other than for quest givers (fixed with Unity) and ouside the Dungeon I hardly savescum
     
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  19. Falksi Arcane

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    The original Baldur's Gate beat the savescummer out of me with the constant reappearance of their trash mobs.

    Play BG1, become a better person.
     
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  20. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    Yeah. Reloading when you make a mistake is one thing, but abusing RNG on chests is absolutely cheating.

    You may as well just use an additem cheat because the result is the same.

    In fact, savescumming to get specific loot drops is the exact same thing - functionally speaking - as using additem cheats, except it takes about 20 times longer and is more annoying.
     
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  21. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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    savescumming on chests... dont care really. Savescumming initiative roll or spell fizzle etc is on another level
     
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  22. Old Hans Cipher

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    I'd also like to come clean. There have been many times during iron man runs through several games, where I was about to die when my game would mysteriously crash. I still cant bring myself to say it
     
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  23. lukaszek the determinator Patron

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  24. Darth Canoli Magister

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    Well, no juicy save-scummer story here but i have to say it, i'm a save hoarder, if i could, i'd make a million save files, just in case a game breaking bug happen, a dragon just fly by and roast my favorite pixels or a fucking beggar is in fact a pickpocket and steal all my precious gold (or i just throw away/sell excalibur by mistake) ...

    So i just hoard saves, just in case and rarely use them...
     
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  25. Faarbaute Educated

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    If I get a suboptimal outcome and feel the urge to savescum dialogue or chests, I make a point of pressing F5 and carrying on, in order to force myself to commit. This works best in games where there is onley a single quick save slot.
     
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