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Arkane Deathloop - first-person action game from Arkane set on a time loop island

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Siel, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Bethesda have no fucking idea how to sell Arkane's games and it's a tragedy. Apparently after Dishonored 2 and Prey faceplanted, they decided that the problem was that Arkane weren't making the right kind of games and not that they needed to behead their marketing team. Almost a decade of failure now, holy shit.
     
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  2. Wunderbar Arcane

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    how would you sell Deathloop?
     
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  3. kangaxx Learned

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    Agreed, but it was a roguelike immersive sim and it was attached to a (IMO great) game that had a cult following. The problem is that Deathloop looks to be a "roguelike shooter based on Dishonered's high chaos fighting mechanics", and for me it fails the "so what" test.

    I'm sure some people will like it but I'd rather Arkane stick to making immersive sims. There are precious few studios making them these days.
     
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  4. Wunderbar Arcane

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    Game's concept is too outlandish to sell to mainstream audience. Even now that we know what this game is about, I struggle to come up with a concise description that could've been used to lure new players. A first-person Hotline Miami with superpowers? A first-person Souls-like?
     
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    Oh, what a shame.

    Can we get something more like Dark Messiah now?
     
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    Looks like there will be one less studio making immersive sims after this videogame.
     
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  7. Ash Arcane

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    Good. Let it die. It died with Deus Ex: Invisible War or Bioshock decades ago. No game has ever lived up to the 90s classics, except maybe Arx Fatalis. The thing is they're not even trying either. Not surprising when with Arx Fatalis they did try and that nearly was the end of them right from the beginning.
     
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    Honestly I'm all for it in theory - I like the idea of a tighter experience that calls for optimisation, and death being incorporated into the game in a way that is anything other than reloading is a plus for me. I liked Mooncrash for similar reasons.

    I don't know if anything is actually randomised in DL, like the random hazards in Mooncrash, but I'd like to see that.
     
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    Dishonored spin-off with roguelite elements, neither of those aspects is too obscure.
     
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    I'd rather have Prey/Dishonored than not. Even if they don't quite measure up to the classics there's a load of fun to be had for fans of the genre.
     
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  11. Ash Arcane

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    the game concept isn't outlandish at all. Rogue-like elements. popamole FPS. awesome button Stealth. Pretty par for the course these days (unfortunately, mostly). What is outlandish is the non-game parts, the art/characters/setting/premise. It all comes across as... very lame. the dialogue sounded horrible from some short footage I saw, a setting where people party endlessly, that's not actually particularly interesting, only teenagers think that is cool, colt seems rather generic or at least marketing has thus far failed to sell him, then the gameplay looks pretty run of the mill on top of that. Like it plays it too safe. Combat seems like Call of Duty with powers. That's been done hundreds of times since 2002 or whatever, even Call of Duty itself did that eventually. Every other popamole game seems like it did it better than this however: Crysis, Rage 2, Wolfenstien 2009, whatever. Hell even Fallout 4​
     
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  13. Ash Arcane

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    Prey I may agree. dishonored is just shit though. Mostly mindless gameplay.
     
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    The Steam reviews are angry about the performance, apparently caused by DRM stuff.
     
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    Hire stealthgamerbr as a consultant and have him do the gameplay trailers. Ezpz
     
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    and yet, Dishonored 2 bombed in sales.
     
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    Yeah, they really have no idea how to advertise it. :smug:
     
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    How do you market a game whose target audience doesn't exist?
     
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    Senior employee at Microsoft attempts to attract attention to poorly selling Microsoft product.
     
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    What part of the world (or form of reality) do you live in? It was in top (in two forms) both in local and global sales in my Steam
     
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  21. Israfael Arcane

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    If they really wanted to make Arkane a cash cow they would not allow them to experiment with an idea that was generally poorly received by the audience (check the completion % of Mooncrash, it's been like 1% or something like that on any difficulty, on par with masochistic Halo 2 Insane mode)
     
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    Achievement completion rates don't take into account whether players bought the DLC or not.
    1% completion could mean that the DLC was bought by 1% of the entire Prey playerbase, and then 100% of them finished it.
     
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    I obviously didn't watch the whole hour and a half of some autistic cuck playing a game and providing his inane commentary, so I might be wrong, but from what I did see I gotta say, Christ almighty, this just looks dull as dirt. The dialogs fucking reek of Youngblood too.

    "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!"
    "I want you...... to not suck (tee-hee)"

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    Are you a Games Journalist by any chance? https://archive.is/ZPXDR
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    Also of course they're going to give it 10/10 and whatever, it has the Black Panther Bonus. If these shitty sites go under Infinitron will be the most affected here, because he can't keep spamming reviews from shitty Woke "Gaming Journalist" sites like EuroGamer and Polygon only he and maybe 2-3 other people care about.
     
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    Yes, which either means people did buy the DLC and did not finish it or they didn't even buy it. Just read some comments on Youtube, there're many complaints about Mooncrash by the storyfag crowd (muh plot, muh timerzz, muh repetitive experience) and lots of comments in vein of "I could enjoy this if someone modded out the timer from the DLC".
     
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