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Decline27 - Warminions

Discussion in 'Codex Playground' started by Isiloon, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Dayyālu Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Yeah, Bretonnians have Ekwhatever light oplites too. I am not seeing other problems with Tzeentch, but other nations have weird infiltrations from newer content overwriting old IDs.
     
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  2. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    so do we play on with warhammer + some unusual wildcards, or do we pick a different mod
     
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  3. sqeecoo Arcane

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    Warriors of Khorne seem ok. I guess everyone should have a look at their nations to see if they are still playable. I wouldn't change the mod.

    By the way LA Phlegra is complete and in the game! Apparently they have some totally ridiculous SCs.
     
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  4. Dayyālu Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Roll with it. Balance is meaningless in this kind of mod games anyway.
     
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  5. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    yeah just not Sylvania-tier meaningless balance ;)
     
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  6. Infinitum Scholar

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    I could see doing a game of Dominions Enhanced instead and wait for the inevitable Warhammer fixed modpack? That or just getting this game started.

    EDIT: Also, back to dark elves for me. Slaanesh has a pretty Fun early game but look boring afterwards.

    EDIT EDIT: Oh god that balance though. Ugh..

    EDIT EDIT EDIT: Know what? I'm going with High Elves instead. Can't stand that blood sacrifice nonsense.
     
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  7. Dayyālu Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    High Elves were my second pick.

    They are surprisingly solid.
     
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  8. Infinitum Scholar

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    It's the little things that shelves sells it. Like how the creator has appearantly translated gold prices costs directly from 6th edition point costs. Thankfully their workhorse mage somehow landed on the right side of not bizarrely overcosted, and they have a few quirks rounding out their otherwise sorry unit rooster.
     
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  9. Infinitum Scholar

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    So what map are we using? Tried out glory of the gods in testing, but it's legit fuckhueg for just 8 players and those huge lakes will be a pain. My vote is for a largeish random map instead (20-ish provinces/player)?.
     
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  10. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    I have already setup the game and don't you read every single one of my posts because then you would have seen it infidel

    I'll also link it in the main page tonight
     
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  11. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    I feel like we should RPify the diplo a bit, anyone keen?
     
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  12. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    All that high self faggotry won't save you when my plague hordes max out your pitiful mortal graphics card with particle effects
     
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  13. sqeecoo Arcane

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    BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

    Unfortunately, that's all the RP I have.
     
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  14. Infinitum Scholar

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    Well what sort of poxed degenerate doesn't update the op with that shit?

    ...

    Hold on, I already joined with Slaanesh Warhost!? The fuck? Can you kick that nation somehow, will re-upload muh Elves instead.
     
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  15. Infinitum Scholar

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    Who are you calling mortal, interloper? Let us see who shines the brightest as I plow you under my mighty.. scythed wheels. Chariots. Quite. Yes.
     
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  16. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    I just deleted SLaanesh.


    No, what will happen is...

    you will see...

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    in very large numbers, and you will be like oh my god.

    Then your elves will melt in clouds of black and green
     
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  17. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    I feel its a shame you're not going Slaanesh, they are really good..
     
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  18. Infinitum Scholar

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    Then come, and quiver before our fabulous splendour. Our shafts shall blot out the sun! The tips of just retribution* cannot be denied!

    *just the tips tho, no homo
     
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  19. Infinitum Scholar

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    Oh, and cheers for clearing that up. Slaanesh has some very strong sacred summons and undercosted troops, granted, but somewhat unreliable Wba(s) on the main mages looks pretty miserable for the endgame, especially if we're going for GotG. Getting N2 on 50% the Brays does make it more interesting granted but.. meh.

    The elves are overcosted as fuck for the most part but at least they can communion up anything by the lategame.
     
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  20. sqeecoo Arcane

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    Warriors of Khorne have a cap only B3 mage AND a non-cap-only B1 mage! Choices! Diversity! But that's not all! They can also summon a demonic B5 mage!
     
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  21. Infinitum Scholar

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    On the flip side it does have adept researcher 6 (!), and you are incenticized to go for magic scales. I guess heliophagi and those hero sorcerers can solve some of your diversity woes soon enough.

    What I'm really curious to see is how you plan to play around play around the popkilling everything in a blood nation.
     
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  22. Dayyālu Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Tzeentch is fairly good, having all the typical Chaos Warrior set-up (with what I think it's the best anti-indie power for Chaos Armour and Chosen, Invuln 10, maybe matched to the Awe1 of the Slaneeshi, let's not even talk of the Recuperation\Disease resist of Nurgle). Plus both Astral AND Blood communions, access to Air and Earth,etc...

    Pity I can't theorycraft and play them properly, I'll probably fuck up with some subpar build 'cause I don't have the nerves nowadays.

    Khorne is a fascinating nation, but I don't think the mechanics work that well in a Dominions setting.

    Also Tzeentch for some insane reason has a shitton of semipornograhic anime fan art.

    WHY
     
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  23. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    sqeecoo do you want to switch to Slaanesh instead of Khorme? Since Infinitum isn't going to play the gays anymore.

    I dont agree with you Infinitum, I think Slaanesh has good shit even for late game... they have access to air and water evocation which is near the top in terms of effectiveness, behind only fire

    And in a cold 3 domain they are especially good. Nurgle gets nature, death and a bit of blood... but death magic doesnt have great damage output outside shadowblast and maybe leeching darkness... then I have poison cloud, on top of all the poison damage I will be doing anyway

    Late game my mages will ultimately resort to skelespamming because the AI thinks that's the best spell, mid game that will be great, late game I dont have that much going but I hope I can outnumber everyone else with tough units.

    I chose Nurgle because of the disease grinder mages and I love the idea of being able to infect pops with diseases deliberately and then recycle those into D gems.

    If you recall my factory in decline22 I want to build something similar for death gems using those mages.... I can disease my own guys in combat easily with plaguebearers or minotaurs... outside of combat would be waaaaay more efficient, but I think I would need to build a bane venom charm then mass guys in a low pop wasteland fort
     
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  24. Isiloon Arcane Patron

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    It's actually more powerful on paper than in practice because based on my testing, if you take barbarians into combat they die and you cant recycle them forever... and then you need your huge SLT mages walking around doing that instead of researching or site searching...

    It's like a shitty version of blood hunting that produces death gems
     
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  25. sqeecoo Arcane

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    Holy shit I didn't even notice the crazy chaos sorcerer heroes! Maybe it's time to finally take Luck 3. Thanks Infinitum!

    No worries Isiloon, I picked Khorne knowing it was a bit stupid, I just really really like the concept and the single-mindedness adds to the atmosphere :)
     
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