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Demystifying the swarms meme, by anon.

Pink Eye

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I'm very into cock and ball torture
It's a lot of feats though. 3 to reach shatter defenses. Maybe it can have some use until midgame (but again it's 3 feats and requires 6 BAB so at best level 6 with a full BAB class, level 8 with a 3/4 BAB, and I don't think there's a point for 1/2 BAB classes). By late game you rarely miss with all the AB bonuses from items unless you did something really wrong with your builds.

Maybe it's needed on unfair? On hard I never felt I had trouble hitting mid game.
Lann and Ventilator already gave good answers. No point in repeating what they said. But personally in Unfair the enemy does have ridiculous stats. Which means their AC is going to be stupidly high. So yeah, it's a valid build. I personally don't build for it. As long as you can inflict the "helpless" and "prone" conditions then you should have no problem with hitting them. Of course this doesn't work with all enemies.
 

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Here's a doc with everything (taken from steam guides):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p3Jx8LqU12_Zk6MoPukGSA-HXpswG_jQPkytXdpOhZM/edit?usp=sharing

separate tab with all their infusions and the combination blasts.

You really want any AoE infusion and they're really good with dazzling/shatter/deadly carnage since it works with blasts.
 

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Here's a doc with everything

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p3Jx8LqU12_Zk6MoPukGSA-HXpswG_jQPkytXdpOhZM/edit?usp=sharing

separate tab with all their infusions and the combination blasts.

You really want any AoE infusion and they're really good with dazzling/shatter/deadly carnage since it works with blasts.
Holy shit that's cool. Thanks for sharing.
 

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You could use "Show Unavailable" button in Infusion/Wild Talents list on level up to see everything present in the game for all elements.

Yeah, but I hate waiting for the talent to pop on level up before I can see whats available. Makes planning ahead hard.
There is a mod on nexus where you can level your characters to level 20. If that may interest you.
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/26

I've already got that. I'm modding out the wazoo. I'm giving all mercs 25 point buy because I shouldn't have to suffer due to not wanting to use Owlcat's 30 point buy morons with shit feat picks.

I set the max health option but it seemed to give me more than max; a ranger with 14 con should get 10 + 2 + 1 for favored class, so 13, but he gets 16. I didn't take the toughness feat or anything. Some bonus in there I'm not seeing.
 

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Pathfinder's swarm mechanics are somewhat intuitive if the player takes the time to reflect upon how one might fight a 'swarm' of insects in real life, you can't carve up a swarm of insects easily with your longsword, that makes complete sense, swarms take extra damage from AOE, that makes complete sense, they swarm over you and crawl inside your armor so they autohit, that makes complete sense.

In REAL LIFE you could probably just step on them until they're all dead. If they made that as a mechanic, people wouldn't have complained so much.
You try stomping this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWVw-j8eYSk

Skaven Corruption 100%
 

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