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Deutsche Qualität: will the renewal of the quality gaming industry come from Germany?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by zool, Nov 5, 2021.

  1. zool Cipher

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    I couldn't help but notice recently that two of my favorite games from the last decade were made by German game studios.

    Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun (2016) was developed by German studio Mimimi Games, based in Munich. Mimimi Games also made the more recent Desperados 3, which was great too, and will release in a month a DLC for Shadow Tactics called Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun - Aiko's Choice.

    Suzerain (2020) was developed by German studio Torpor Games, based in Berlin. This game is simply the best political sim to come out since Hidden Agenda (1988). It only took 32 years to get another quality political sim, which coincidentally means we may see a proper Jagged Alliance 2 sequel by 2031.

    Is it also a coincidence that Shadowrun: Dragonfall, my third favorite game of the last decade and generally considered to be the best game of the new Shadowrun series by Harebrained Schemes, although not made by a German studio, is set in Berlin, Germany?

    Ich don't think so.

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  2. Zed Duke of Banville Zo Kath Ra Patron

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  3. Fedora Master Arcane Patron Edgy

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    Germans have barely figured out the Internet, you can't expect anything from them.
     
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    You are German, why do you like Dragon Age Inquisition? Is it because nothing can be expected from you and you still underachieve?
     
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  5. Anthedon Arcane Patron

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  6. Bester ⚰️☠️⚱️ Patron Vatnik

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    "Nooo these germans don't have the aryan certificate reeee."

    Jesus Christ, cuckdex.
     
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  7. Diablo1_reborn Busin 0 Wizardry Alternative Neo fanatic Patron

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    Not in one hundred years.
     
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  8. Tavar Arbiter Patron

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    This. If the German game industry gets its wish and gets access to tax money simliar to the German film industry we can look foward to more "educational" trash games like "Through the Darkest of Times". If not, we will keep the current state of boring mediocrity.
     
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  9. Thac0 Time Mage Patron

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    Germany and France have both become respectable players when it comes to AA rpgs, and as AAA rpgs are almost always garbage they are just about the best thing you can get from the West currently.
    If any European country enters a Golden Age however I would bet more for France than for Germany.

    Not only has their industry grown spectacularily in size:
    https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-03-03-french-annual-report
    https://www.vgchartz.com/article/447724/french-games-market-has-grown-40-since-2016/

    There has been a made in France sale recently, and they have a LOT of stuff, some of it really high quality.
    https://store.steampowered.com/sale/GamesMadeInFrance

    Yeah German games and German rpgs aren't bad right now, but France steals our spotlight.
     
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  10. lightbane Arcane

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    Aren't Germans incapable of making games except more boring Gothic clones?
     
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  11. Thac0 Time Mage Patron

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    This one is the good shit
     
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  12. 1451 Seeker In My Safe Space

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    Poland is more impressive. Several good games were made by Polish studios. Sure the funds arrived from the USA but still, the talent is there.
    Germany has Piranha and that's it.
    Europe in general is weak at game development.
     
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  13. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Germany as a country is gaming's great underachiever. Demographically and economically, there should be a German equivalent of Ubisoft, but there just isn't. It'd be an interesting research topic to figure out why.
     
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  14. pickmeister Educated

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    And then there’s CryTek. The tech demo company.
     
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  15. Cunt Dickula!? Arbiter

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    Thanks for Suzerain, OP. Looks interesting. Will buy.
     
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  16. HansDampf Arcane

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    Bestest jRPG.
     
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  17. Blutwurstritter Educated

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    Spellforce 3 (Grimlore Games) was very good and Everspace (Rockfish Games) was also decent. Everspace 2 might turn out good too. But one swallow doesn't make a summer. Overall the output of good games is rather small and I doubt that this will change any time soon.
     
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  18. Cunt Dickula!? Arbiter

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    Is it any good? It looks so gay and the premise (characters are in a MMO) sounds pretty retarded.
     
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  19. Peachcurl Arbiter

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    We Germans aren't allowed to have fun or develop fun things. It's work. Work hard. Earn lots of money. Pay lots of taxes. Be on time. Produce good things. That can be used to produce more good things.
     
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  20. Cunt Dickula!? Arbiter

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    SAP S/4HANA is the most popular german game.
     
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  21. FritzedProcess Prophet

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    They have Piranha Bytes, though, which more than makes up for it.
     
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  22. HansDampf Arcane

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    It has a great combat system and puzzle mechanics. Story is subjective. I don't know what people consider gay but it doesn't contain any SJW crap.
     
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  23. Thac0 Time Mage Patron

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    Italy.

    Hazarding a guess:
    Germany is eternally opposed to progress.
    The first railways here were heavily opposed.
    They were said to be bring diseases due to the high speed, and brain damage from too fast transportation. The railway itself was called a thing of hell.

    Also there is the culture of seriousness that Peachcurl mentioned. Rat Tower studios has a similar problem in Austra, it is hard to get funding for something silly like a video game here.

    Add on to that that Germany is generally in the digitial stone age.
    "The internet is new grounds for all of us" - Merkel in 2013

    And you got a bunch of reasons why it is hard to develop video games in Germany.
     
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  24. zool Cipher

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    I did say "German studios", not that all of their members were German :obviously:

    Anyway, only talent matters :dealwithit:
     
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