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Incline Disco Elysium - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG - Final Cut content update coming March

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Zero Credibility, Oct 15, 2019.

  1. prengle Learned

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    i fixed him :)
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  2. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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  3. Ramnozack Savant Patron

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    Come March I might get copy from comrade fitgirl, try this gaem finally, and stick it to capitalist pigs all at same time!
     
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  4. Ghulgothas Erudite

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    SUGGESTION: "Well, at least you've still got your looks, Harry."
     
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  5. KVVRR Educated

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    Yeah, I think they're also changing the ones for some of the characters as well, they aren't in the displate website but you could see Edrart's new one in the final cut trailer.
    I like the new portraits, they made the PHY atributes look more brutal, the PHY look more solid and steel-like, and the MOT just straight up look a LOT better. The only one I'm iffy about is the suggestion one with the weird eyes, they look like a child's. Maybe it's intentional? probably not Suggestion is always ALWAYS wrong, after all.
    The other thing I don't like about the new portraits is that they look more... real. Not like a dream or one of those glimpses of an image you get in your mind for like a split second. But imo it's a decent trade.
     
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  6. Ghulgothas Erudite

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    MOT are all a net improvement, FYS's new drippingly meaty textures adds to their character, and I can't even tell what's been changed to the INT at a glance. With PSY...

    I really like the new Eyelashes on Empathy, fits it as a touchy-feely skill. Suggestion's new peepers are kinda funny but still endearing. Esprit and Drama both look better, and Inland and Volition don't look much different. Somethin' about the full crown on Authority is off to me.
     
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  7. Harthwain Liturgist

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    Of all skills I don't like changes to Authority and Suggestion.

    Suggestion was better without eyes. Adding them is a meaningless departure from the original - making the smile more... knowing/sinister/suggestive, while keeping the old no-eyes look would've been a better change in my opinion.

    Authority's old look suggested it wears a crown of laurels, giving it caesarian impression which can be easily associated with authority. You could say the crown fits there just as well, but... why fix what isn't broken?
     
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  8. frajaq Liturgist

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    some people actually talk like Measurehead IRL

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  9. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    https://steamcommunity.com/games/632470/announcements/detail/4544662636004298977

     
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  10. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    I forgot, what is the release date for DLC?
     
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  11. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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  12. v1rus Arcane

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    So, Ill have to play the game from beginning to experience the DLC content? Sucks. One day tho.
     
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  13. Joined on the 4th of July Arcane

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    So is this "Partial VO" thing real? I'm dumb.
     
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  14. jackofshadows Arbiter

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    Finished the second full run. Was gonna check RU localization out of curiocity but looked at the fonts and went with 'nah, I'm fine'. They're not atrocious or anything but look significantly worse, too neutral. It's a common problem, unfortunately. But from some bits I've seen localization itself looks very good. Surprisingly good, even.

    Overall impressions weren't as vivid as the first ones obviously and lacking of reactivity were even more glaring. Hardcore mode, which should be offered right at the beginning not via options only, just making checks somewhat harder and that's basically it. No restrictions, no actual time management, nothing. Am I missing something? Description tells about increased XP but it felt the same. Additional cost for healing items - does anyone even buys those? So much stuff lying around, maybe 1purple/1red builds needs that or if picking the most pathetic/crazy lines all the time but it's a mode for experienced players we're talking about.

    Anyway, the reason I'm writing was this: what's the darkest stuff you can do in the game? I mean, besides drinking and snorting again, punching Kuno, stealing some shit here and there, you can threat some NPC, right? So imo the most grim scene with the strong 'Bad Lieutenant' vibe is
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    demand for a bribe from Andre and his crew

    From screenshots thread I've seen that you can get the gun before meeting Titus and use it there, it looks promising but what else?
     
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  15. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    you can sell Dak'kon into slavery
     
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  16. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    Should've waited for the final cut before doing that imho. Aren't you too burned out to play it a third time around now?
     
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  17. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    well, there are three start builds.
     
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  18. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    I'm sorry to say that you have the brainspan of a stagecoach tilter, Verylittlefishes. jackofshadows already complained about the lack of reactivity, so it's not like that'd help too much.
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  19. jackofshadows Arbiter

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    No, the plan was to refresh my memory to distinct future content. There's little left to burn, unfortunately. Even the ex-things weren't that devastating, not even close. The story is magnificent but its effect is strong only once. And the game itself not that long, so...
    Yeah, and also you can distribute stats manually but there's only 4 stats in total so after two runs with the 'opposite' builds one can see all the 'inner demon's comments'.
     
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  20. KVVRR Educated

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    From the top of my head you can shoot Cunnoesse, threaten the programer lady in the church to leave by telling her you'll beat the shit out of her or by just pulling out your gun, and have Jean tell you this during your final dialogue after having the worst outcome imaginable (no kim, no cuno, only drunk harry):
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    "Good bye, Harry. And -- I know it won't happen, but..." He looks at you, heart steeled and eyes cold. "*If* you make it -- if you've been sober for 10 months -- tell us. I'll work with you again. But not like this. Never like this again. This is over."
     
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  21. Humanophage Arcane

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    tl;dr made a poster/wallpaper to celebrate my first playthrough (44 fascist, 23 ultraliberal, 11 moralist, 3 communist)
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    I can't say the game struck me as especially communist or pushing communism on its own. Although that might sound a bit conspiratorial, it seems to be marketed to them because they are pushy yet gullible and they doggedly associate Eastern European devs with it (even though Estonians are generally one of the most anti-communist nations in the world). You mention Marx and El Chapo as a dev and they drool all over you. It works - if you look at the stats on Steam, it's as follows:
    25.3% said communist things 9+ times
    22.5% moralist
    16.8% ultraliberal
    10% traditionalist (might be deflated because of the morale damage)

    The more well-developed communist characters like Evrart and the Deserter are too perverse to serve as clear poster boys, and it's basically only the Hardy Boys that fit. As pointed out above, the ideologies are treated fairly reasonably in terms of lore but comically in terms of dialogue options, and the main message seems more existentialist than anything. I.e., the source of failure is the entropic nature of the world, humans should be huddling together for friendship and intimacy, should be finding their clique and not be alone (Hardy Boys, mercs, police, ravers, etc.) It seems somewhat split between a moralist 'clean up your room before you change the world' and 'turn your life into something unique by pursuing a wild aim since you will die anyway'. It seems to be somewhat encapsulated by the cryptozoologist and his wife.

    With regards to fascism, it is reflected in how other characters describe Harry and in the numeric score. It's clearly not about having the thought 'Revacholian Nationhood', so I don't see why people cry so much over it. The point of the thought is depression over the condition of the nation and that you're drowning it in alcohol. The thought is directly contradicted by the other right-wing line of research via Advanced Race Theory, which leads you to accepting the waste land of reality and rejecting alcohol on account that it is degenerate and bad for your race. The upshot is that the game does not paint racialists as alcoholics, but rather the reverse - it's the first opportunity to stop being an alcoholic. (The other later opportunity apparently are religious fanatics.)

    Measurehead is actually pretty curious in terms of the reaction he elicits. A quick perusal of Reddit and Youtube shows that the lefties really relish the violence against him. This is quite odd since ordinarily you would expect them to be fine or even deferential to a black nationalist (Malcolm X, Elijah Muhammad, Marcus Garvey, etc.) It's basically the whole Nation of Islam type rhetoric of mixing random racial science lingo to sound educated while pushing reverse discrimination in an attempt to salvage dignity. Maybe the issue is that he is insufficiently aggressive towards whites. But their reaction is positively boomer in terms of how unreflective it is; the character is so good at teasing them they completely ignore the context. BLM would probably lambaste them over this if they played CRPGs.
     
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  22. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Lmao
     
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  23. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Racist Lorry Driver - generic Stormfront poster
    Measurehead - Bronze Age Pervert/Hakan Rotmwrt-style frogtwitter personality
    Gary the Cryptofascist - dorky alt-lite YouTuber
     
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  24. Humanophage Arcane

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    He is outwardly communist, does pro-communist things, promotes communist militias, cooperates with his more ideological brother (or alter ego), resembles Latin American drug baron-communist characters, and high drama and such repeatedly show that he cares about it. The fact that he is also corrupt adds a dimension to his character so he isn't just a smart heroic union leader with Sartre's eyes.
     
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  25. Verylittlefishes Sacro Bosco Patron

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    Evrart to me is a personification of cynicism.
     
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