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In Progress Do the Hansa! [Crusader Kings II]

Discussion in 'Codex Playground' started by Machiavelli, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Machiavelli Educated

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    Alrighty.

    After my previous (not very succesful) LP, it's time for another one.



    The Merchant Republic of the Hansa
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    This time, we will be playing a merchant republic. They have been recently nerfed, but still very powerful. The Italian republics have been done over and over again, so I thought it would be fun to choose another starting date and go for the Hanseatic League.​
    Also, I will start as 'just' a patrician and not the doge from the start. Maybe it will make things more interesting.​
    The start is in 1241, the Mongol starting date. Our goal will be firstly to become leader of the republic, secondly to become unbelievably rich, thirdly to kick around all feudal lords in the north of Europe and beyond if they don't do what we desire them to do.​
    I crave for a succesful campaign after the Armenia story, and I hope you will enjoy.​
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  2. Machiavelli Educated

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    Post Scriptum: when we fail, Duklja will be up next.
     
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  3. Gondolin Arcane

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    Proceed, good sir. :obviously:
     
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  4. Hellraiser Arcane

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    The friendly neighborhood swedish merchant republic of goetteborg (or how the fuck it's called) will violate you. Still I think you'll survive until the doomstacks of mongolia come to vassalise the HRE :troll:
     
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  5. Machiavelli Educated

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    Part 1: Courtly love and moneymaking (1241-1242)
    So here we are, a lowborn patrician. Augustin of Lüneburg.​
    Our dynasty is small and little prestigious. We do have a shitload of money to start with.​
    Of course we will be wanting to marry and have lots of beautiful (male) babies.​
    Our liege is the head of the Vorrade family, we want his spot.​
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    Here's the Republic. The Vorrade family is currently in charge. They have trade posts around the capital, as does the von Bardewik family.​
    The Warendorps have holdings in Poland, Witterborg is situated on the island of Gotland and on the east coast of Sweden.​
    Our families' trading posts are situated on the south coast of Sweden. (Marked inside the circle with red dots)​
    The 2/7, 3/11, etc. project trade posts/trade post limits. The limit can be raised by building up our mansion and making a lot of boy babies of our dynasty.​
    So we will.​
    Currently, we are fifth in the line of succession. But our time will come.​
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    We have quite a lot of money, so we will use it to build trade posts up to our limit. I have chosen Denmark, because our relations with King Erik our better than those with the Kaiser or the King of Sweden. Meaning the trade posts are less expensive. Moreover, if we have a trade post in a county we can later seize the city in that county and it just seems right to kick around Denmark first.​
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    First, we will need a wife (standard procedure). This Welsh lass is perfectly fit for the job.​
    Her name is Mair, she likes me already because she is Zealous like me. She is also an Honest, Brave, Diligent Underhanded Rogue.​
    And she is a GENIUS (oh boy). This patrician game actually makes a good breeding game, because it doesn't really matter what rank you marry. (too high of a rank is actually VERY expensive)​
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    We started of with an empty court (only our kids were in it) and now we have a wife. It is time to invite some nobles which we don't have enough money for. But in time we will.​
    I thought spending my load of money would lower the invite noble cost, but it didn't. :mad:
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    There she is! Make lots of babies and we will concentrate on raising our.. intrigue! So we can plot to take this great republic in the making.​
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    Our new nobles look a little disoriëntated and unwary of the task ahead of them. They are too full up this empty council room.​
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    The nobles are introduced to eachother and informed of their task. Improve relations with Denmark for cheaper trade posts, training troops for eventual fights with other patricians, collect taxes for the money, scheming and kissing the popes' ass.​
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    Let's bring some love to our court. Our councillors do need to marry talented and preferably Genius, Strong, Quick, Attractive girls.​
    Bring in the women!​
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    Every councillor now has a girl to have fun with, except for my marshal. The girl I had found for him had been promised to some baron.​
    We can't accept this, so let's kill the baron.​
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    Nobody wants to join our beautiful plot. A bribe will help...​
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    We can now get what we want, beautiful Theodora. My marshal will have fun with her and make genius babies.​
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    I don't trust hooded people. But nevertheless, the book was quite interesting.​
    In the meantime, the Kaiser seems to be in all kinds of trouble:​
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    A civil war for independence broke out, just as he joined the recently called Crusade for Jerusalem.​
    We don't care.​
    Must.. make.. money.​
    And read in my book.​
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    Damn those dockworkers! How come our Prince Mayor didn't manage to stop this strike in time?!​
    Of course, under our rule this would NEVER happen!​
    But our time has not yet come.​
    Ah, good news!​
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    A year has passed, we have filled our court with love and the promise of talent and riches.​
    What does the future hold for us Lüneburgs?​
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  6. CappenVarra phase-based phantasmist Patron

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  7. Gondolin Arcane

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    I lol'ed as well. :D
     
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  8. Cassidy Arcane

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    Too bad CKII has no means for pulling the kind of dickery that shifted the IVth Crusade to Constantinople rather than Jerusalem. Or is there a way for that?
     
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  9. Machiavelli Educated

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    That is indeed impossible. There's no crusading against christians.

    You could try to ally the biggest crusade contributors and declare war on the Byzantines and call them in, hoping they will join when they're around.
    Failure chance is very high I think.

    But I don't think we will be crusading much as the Hansa.
     
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  10. Cassidy Arcane

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    Not so sure. In my last CKII game there were 3 Crusades for Germany against the Golden Horde. And Lubeck was only retaken in the 1400s, when most of its population converted to Tengri.

    :hero:
     
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  11. Machiavelli Educated

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    True!

    I thought about 'classic' crusading for Jerusalem when making that remark. I'm truly hoping we will survive the golden horde.
    If not possible we could maybe flee Lübeck, since our mansion can be transferred anywhere as long as we stay a Republic.
    But let's not think about that yet.
     
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  12. jerichocaine Literate

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    Ironically you can actually do the opposite. If you reform the Church as the Byzantines, Orthodoxes gain the ability to declare holy wars on Catholics.
     
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  13. Hellraiser Arcane

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    God damn mogolians!
     
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  14. Kattze Andhaira

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    If you fail with this LP, don't do the Duklja. LP interesting personalities such as El Cid, as count of Valencia in 1094, or Rouisell(?) de Bailleul (?), a lone Norman duke somewhere in Anatolia in 1071.
     
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  15. RedScum Arbiter Patron

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  16. Machiavelli Educated

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    Duklja collected a lot of votes last time, so Serbia earns it. I think playing as count of Valencia in 1094 will be just another fail :-p.
    But I'll always consider ideas.

    Next update will be soon.
     
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  17. Machiavelli Educated

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    Part 2: Building & Breeding (1242-1250)


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    The year is 1242, the Holy Roman Empire is in civil war, France seems pretty chopped up and the Mongolian Hordes are gaining in on Europe.
    We've got work to do.

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    I'm going to say this once and only once. All of the girls in our court will be tutored by mentors skilled in intrigue. I like high intrigue girls. You can send them places and they mostly like you.

    News from a local noble:

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    Yes we will help you! Anything to discomfort one of the other patrician families.

    We are competing with them for trade in the Baltic. We have built two extra trade posts on some Danish islands, the Vorrades have expanded into northern Denmark.

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    We will have to try to get as much trade posts as possible in our main sea zone, called 'the Sound'. It will get wicked bonuses for being connected to the capital.

    Good news:

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    My genius wife is pregnant! Let's hope she pops out a genius son.
    Something like this, but better:

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    The breeding game is beginning. Before we go on, let's look at our surroundings.

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    This is Scandinavia and it's rulers:

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    King Erik of Denmark likes me most, which is good 'cause I want to build trade posts there. He's a pretty good ruler overall. Hakon is quite the diplomat, but with no other obvious talents except eating and having sex. Erik of Sweden isn't blessed with his personage. He has a lisp and is clubfooted, furthermore he is chaste. Those combined with having wife nor babies, is a bad sign for Sweden.

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    A Genius has been born! Too bad he's not my child, but we'll have our chance soon.

    Let's hope we will have enough Geniuses before the Mongols come our way:

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    Uggh:

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    We had a daughter... :( and she's a hunchback. Greaaaaaaat..
    That wasn't really what we were hoping for.

    Let's turn my attention to something else:

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    That girl. She should have taken the chance to have me. I let her tutor my child, for God's sake!

    I'm raising my son myself!

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    Some story I heard, about an old tailor.

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    Before we begin our training, we will need to have dinner. So, let the cooks make some!!

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    So we're now Temperate. Let's see who we actually are.
    We are an Honest, Patient, Gregarious, Zealous, Temperate, Intricate Webweaver. And a Scholar.
    Pretty.. But we have no titles which contain lands.

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    Finally, we have the money to build our Palace.

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    We really want this, it will greatly increase our levy and income. And we can build more trade posts. We are on our limit now.

    Dietpold! Make sure those workers keep busy from dusk till dawn.

    I'm going to lay down now..

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    This won't help my psyche:

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    That bastard! I bet it was our Lord Mayor who issued the order. We'll be keeping an eye on him and our revenge will be sweet. Late, maybe, but sweet..

    I guess we need a new spymaster.

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    This claimant is fit for the job.

    And so is my oldest son:

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    In the meantime, the old tailor is teaching me stuff.

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    Oh, the first dead patrician. His successor doesn't seem very respected. We have climbed the republican ladder, nearly there!

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    I can't use a greedy son. Lecture the boy!

    Or there will be other contestants:

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    We will also be building up our trade posts when at our limit. The Port increases trade zone value (now 136.0) and the Enclave increases tax income (now 12.0). The garrison increases our retinue a bit and also the fort level of the post.

    Grave news from Denmark:

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    The king who loved us, died. Can the boy keep his throne?

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    Success!! We have our genius. This is great, he will serve our family well.

    Speaking of families, here are the big five:

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    It will be a long time before we are Prince Mayor, but we'll build up that place on the right and force our way up.

    The year is 1250 and our family is going strong, but not yet there.

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  18. Corporate_Jew_Master Arcane

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    Yes, yes, the jew must flow. He who has the jew controls the Hansa.

    As Gotland after 50-60 years or so of financial expansion I managed to get Livonia and Courland then form Lithuania some decades later. Or are you going the no expansion route?
     
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  19. Machiavelli Educated

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    Well that could be part of debate. I would like to go the historical route and build up trade in Bruges and London. There also aren't real easy independent targets, I can seize cities in Sweden, Denmark and Pomeralia (I think) because I have trade posts there. So maybe expansion within the HRE would be better, I don't know.
    Maybe it's better to go expanding westward, looking at that golden blob in the east?

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    He does look scary, huh?
     
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  20. Corporate_Jew_Master Arcane

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    Him alone, no.

    It's the 200k stacks of the Goldenfag-Timur ITZ that basically end the game. Funny thing is that republics, with their insane retinue bonuses and massive income can raise and hire massive armies to stop them, far better than Poland or even the HRE can.
     
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  21. Machiavelli Educated

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    Yes, they don't show up without their friends... xD
    Let's hope we can stop 'em.

    But we'll need to become Prince Mayor first, or else there's no expanding. I've got the smallest army amongst the five families, despite my upgraded palace. I think my crappy martial skill is the cause.
     
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  22. Lindblum Scholar

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    Oh wow a CK2 LP thats actually entertaining.

    Its a nice change to see an LP without too much "RPGCodex" references.
    Do continue spinning your tale.
     
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  23. Machiavelli Educated

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    Thanks for the big up, though I'm still trying to figure out what's entertaining and what not.

    I will be spinning again very soon, two entries in the making and it's finally getting exciting.
     
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  24. Machiavelli Educated

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    Part 3: A Jagged Alliance (1250-1256)


    Our Kaiser has crushed the rebellious King of Bohemia and two other dukes in their war for independence
    and is closing in on the duke of Lombardy.

    A boy king in England is dealing with a succession crisis and the Spanish are years away from reclaiming Iberia.
    It's good to see North Africa still green.

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    Our son is lying to us.

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    We shall give him a talking to. Learn him that a ruler should rely on others to be dishonest.


    Our pope is a greedy bastard, luckily he's cheap.
    But I think we do have to accomodate his employees.

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    Our trade is looking pretty good. We own the trade posts on the two main islands of the Sound.
    The Bight of Hano is completely our turf and we have recently built a new post inbetween two families
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    It could be better though.

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    We have replaced a marshal who had inherited some land with a new Russian claimant, may he serve us well.

    And the son is becoming a nuisance.

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    In the east, the Mongols are going strong and burning cities. Our marshal should be thankful he's here.

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    Bleh. The seas are great but the navy is small.
    We have other things to worry about.

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    Our liege has asked us to join his council.
    Yes.. we will see if we can do something useful in there.

    And those hedge knights again! I wonder if their religious head knows what they are doing on this side of the woods and mountains.

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    I like a good, fair fight.
    Honorable knights are always welcome in our home.

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    Ah, there's our good boy!

    He's so intelligent, he will have time to learn about the world.

    Our oldest daughter Isentrud is growing up very fast. We should think about marrying her off for an alliance.
    And to whom.

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    Things just became surreal when looking for a good alliance husband for Isentrud.
    The palace of the Warendorps is home to this retarded young man. He apparently adopted a 34-year-old.

    We should try another family, maybe. This Hildemar, son of the Prince Mayor.
    It would give us an alliance with our liege, who can't help us in internal wars.
    But when a patrician of another family is chosen, he will.
    We could be friends and help eachother, couldn't we?

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    Great! Pray for a boy, Mair. I need them.

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    Don't cry, sweety. It's okay...
    A genius girl is almost as good as a boy.

    Speaking of boys, how's our little king doing in Denmark?

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    Ouch, he died. I wonder if Christoffer I 'the Moustached' had anything to do with that unfortunate accident.

    In our world, minor plots rule the marketplace.

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    Luckily there's always that talented man to give shelter from his unsatisfying surroundings.






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    It's good to see Hieronymus grow up. He's so bright and good and.. I just love him.


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    And more of those coming.



    Maybe it looks like we are just sitting around the house and not doing much.

    This is not true. We are still building to make our reign one to remember.
    Raising our income is always good and we will be plotting soon, so..

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    Children grow up to be adults and you would think they would be ready.
    Alexander doesn't seem ready at all. He's a good man, diplomatically educated; brave, honest and charitable.
    But nothing special.

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    Now that's a marriage!
    Maybe it's good to give a party now and then.

    I shall give Alexander a present, he's my boy after all..

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    I hope he likes exotic gifts.

    Hieronymus here, will receive greater gifts in his bright future.

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    No, son. It isn't the right question.

    Will the family, with hard work and God willing, rule one day?
    And the answer is yes, boy, we will.
     
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  25. GarfunkeL Racism Expert

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    Interesting start. When did they add Merchant Republics to CK2?
     
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