Dominions 4 - Grim Antiquity

[Mraston]

OK, game settings (put into OP too):

Magic Sites - 0
Indies - 8
Resource, supply and gold: 50%
Research: Very difficult.
Score Graphs - On
Hall Of Fame - 10

Grimwulf do you need any more info for me regarding the map? You cool to send it through and I'll get to hosting.

Re: Pretenders, Try and do everything with a RP focus rather than a whatever wins me the game focus. You are free to interpret your nations RP as you will.

 

[Grimwulf]

Grimwulf do you need any more info for me regarding the map? You cool to send it through and I'll get to hosting.

You can do it in game setting, actually. When you will host the game on llamaserver, set "Special site frequency" somewhere between 0 (no magic sites at all) to 10-15 (almost none magic sites, but you can probably find some in swamps, deserts and such).



Errr, so you changed your mind? No need for custom defenders? If so, here is the script:

https://d.maxfile.ro/ykmcdffqce.rar

Extract in your "maps" folder. You need original map image (link in your op-post).

Or do you want me to send the script to llama too? Ok, just did it. It's currently on the bottom of the map list, named Uropia (Grim Antiquity edition).

 

[Grimwulf]

Magic Sites - 0

Guys, can somebody refresh my memory? I vaguely remember that magic site setting affects blood hunt too. The more mag.site generation is, the easier it is to hunt. Is it so, or am I senile again?

 

[Kane]

Guys, can somebody refresh my memory? I vaguely remember that magic site setting affects blood hunt too. The more mag.site generation is, the easier it is to hunt. Is it so, or am I senile again?

Yep, deliberately so, otherwise Blood would be pretty overpowered.

 

[Grimwulf]

Yep, deliberately so, otherwise Blood would be pretty overpowered.

So, with mag. sites 0 blood hunting is virtually impossible?

Also less blood in MA and in LA blood will easily dominate the game. Blood and crossbows.

Crossbows. Just crossbows.

 

[Kane]

So, with mag. sites 0 blood hunting is virtually impossible?

Not entirely, b/c even with 0 mag. sites there's still cap sites, but it's fairly minimal.

 

[Johannes]

So, with mag. sites 0 blood hunting is virtually impossible?

Probably not, I don't think the formula works on a 1:1 basis, it's just a negative modifier even at zero. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

OK, game settings (put into OP too):

Magic Sites - 0
Indies - 8
Resource, supply and gold: 50%
Research: Very difficult.
Score Graphs - On
Hall Of Fame - 10

Grimwulf do you need any more info for me regarding the map? You cool to send it through and I'll get to hosting.

Re: Pretenders, Try and do everything with a RP focus rather than a whatever wins me the game focus. You are free to interpret your nations RP as you will.

50% gold / resources? I thought this was supposed to be a low magic game, not a sacred rush / turmoil-luck / awake expander game (which also comes to the last point too - I always play to win, my people don't deserve a shit pretender). Sorry but I'm out.

 

[Grimwulf]

50% gold / resources? I thought this was supposed to be a low magic game, not a sacred rush / turmoil-luck / awake expander game

This. Somehow I missed that. Oh, right, I was drunk yesterday

Mraston, pls return gold/res settings to vanilla.

 

[Kane]

50% gold / resources? I thought this was supposed to be a low magic game, not a sacred rush / turmoil-luck / awake expander game (which also comes to the last point too - I always play to win, my people don't deserve a shit pretender). Sorry but I'm out.

I am even considering D1-2. But yes, Mraston if you cut income in half and double indy strength and with no way to get ground in magics any fast, awake expander will be a must. I'd say either go speedy research with half income or double income with half research but not both on low.

 

[Dayyālu]

50% gold / resources? I thought this was supposed to be a low magic game, not a sacred rush / turmoil-luck / awake expander game (which also comes to the last point too - I always play to win, my people don't deserve a shit pretender). Sorry but I'm out.

Be it so. As Decline2 seemingly died, sign me up as a sub for Arco, as no one wants to give me sweet, sweet Therodos and its mostly unplayable line-up.

 

[Grimwulf]

Did a mini-test. Blood hunted in 10k population farm with 0 magic settings. The hunter was B1, hunted for 10 consequitive turns, with heavy patrols and stuff. Results:

0 - 0 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4

11 slaves after 10 turns. Wow.

I take back everything I said about Berytos being a powerful nation. Without magical research and blood, Berytos has the worst recruitable troops among all EA surface nations. I have no fucking clue how to play it now.

Spoiler

I'm still in, though.

 

[Dreaad]

Did a mini-test. Blood hunted in 10k population farm with 0 magic settings. The hunter was B1, hunted for 10 consequitive turns, with heavy patrols and stuff. Results:

0 - 0 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4

11 slaves after 10 turns. Wow.

I take back everything I said about Berytos being a powerful nation. Without magical research and blood, Berytos has the worst recruitable troops among all EA surface nations. I have no fucking clue how to play it now.

Spoiler

I'm still in, though.

Well they still have elephants and length 5 weapon dudes with shields.

 

[Grimwulf]

Of course. ELEPHANTS! This game is going to be humiliating.

 

[Kane]

Did a mini-test. Blood hunted in 10k population farm with 0 magic settings. The hunter was B1, hunted for 10 consequitive turns, with heavy patrols and stuff. Results:

0 - 0 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 4

11 slaves after 10 turns. Wow.

 

[Johannes]

Tried hunting with a B3 with 0 sitefreq, that captured slaves more often than not. Of course it's gonna be a long time before const-4 for those rods.

 

[Mraston]

OK Gold and Resources at normal.

Gonna create the game now. Feel free to sub in Dayyālu .

 

[Mraston]

Supplies is at 50% though because that makes sense for grim antiquity.

 

[Mraston]

Game created: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GrimAnt
It's called GrimAnt because llamaserver wouldn't allow Grim Antiquity

 

[Grimwulf]

Supplies is at 50% though because that makes sense for grim antiquity.

There goes my BRILLIANT strategy featuring elephants.

 

[Grimwulf]

Events set to rare

 

[Kane]

Mf3 here I come.

 

[hoverdog]

 

[Grimwulf]

Anybody wants to exchange nations? I offer you BERYTOS. Feel the joy of starting with three provinces in your cap-ring; two of them are deserts. Experience the struggle of playing around with worst lineup in EA. Get rushed&crushed by Machaka which starts right next to you!

Mraston, my man, I didn't really check the start positions when I placed them (just blindly did what you asked me to do), but you gotta know that they are broken. Berytos is objectively the weakest nation in your settings, and it gets the worst start too. All other nations begin with 4-6 provinces connected (and not shitty deserts, mind you). And no other nation starts as close as Berytos-Machaka.

I'll play in any case, since I'm secretely masochistic. But Bery has no chance to survive early game, no matter who or how will play it.

Spoiler

I will even accept Marverni. Yes, I'm that desperate. raw

 

[Kane]

I am sorry but Maverni is my burden to bear.

 

[Grimwulf]

I am sorry but Maverni is my burden to bear.

When niggers will come and rape me at turn 3, I will blame you for this.