Interview Dragon Age II Won't Be Dumbed Down

[Korgan]

This shit is literally worse than Hitler.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

On topic, why does VoD keep posting such shit?

He is merely the Three Dog of the post-RPG wasteland reporting on the heroic exploits of the lone designers. What adventures will these men and women tell us about next?

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

On topic, why does VoD keep posting such shit?

Because it allows us to rant and roar like true British sailors.

Seriously though, why not? It is amusing even if it is sad. And it often produces some decent arguing as well.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

It just struck me what this shit is

This is NO GAMER LEFT BEHIND, where RPG adventures are made to welcome gamers of any skill level whatsoever. The best RPG with the highest amount of gamers coming onto it will naturally be determined by sales figures. Having proved itself, the design traits of the most welcoming RPG will then be distributed across companies to ensure an universal standardized level of roleplaying skill for all gamers is reached. This is a new beginning for all of us.

 

[deuxhero]

Why doesn't Bioware just start making vusal novels?

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Why doesn't Bioware just start making vusal novels?

And make it compulsary for their fans to read? Do you not know what welcoming is here, boy? It means they're welcome not to read.

 

[Xor]

On topic, why does VoD keep posting such shit?

He is merely the Three Dog of the post-RPG wasteland reporting on the heroic exploits of the lone designers. What adventures will these men and women tell us about next?

[Intelligence] So he fights the good fight with his text?

 

[Hawke]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

 

[Baron]

Bros, I'm 36. My first game was Wizardry I (Apple IIc) and I've played every cRPG and PnP I could get my dorkish hands on since then; it's been a hell of a ride. Yet there's not a day goes by that I don't shake with fury that game designers are pitching their games at children.

It is insanity itself that my demographic, whilst minute, is not the one targeted by game developers. Just imagine the game produced by focusing on those with a quarter of a century of accumulated RPG experience! If the issue of video games and art is to be settled then designers necessarily must focus on quality, not quantity of sales.

That the technology that necessitated turn based text combat has been long surpassed is no reason that melee combat should be upgraded to more closely resemble actual combat as attempted in Mass Effect and The Witcher. Pure RPG skirmishes should take days, they should be isometric (so that I may enjoy the same close bond with my characters as I do a chess piece), and they are unchanging, a lot like my social life; a beer, a Friday night, and Deep Thought, my faithful desktop, from where I keep fighting the crusade on the 'Dex.

A) Attack
D) Defend
R) Retreat

Truthfully, it's all been in decline since we lost the wireframed walls.

 

[Jaesun]

Bros, I'm 36. My first game was Wizardry I (Apple IIc) and I've played every cRPG and PnP I could get my dorkish hands on since then; it's been a hell of a ride. Yet there's not a day goes by that I don't shake with fury that game designers are pitching their games at children.

It is insanity itself that my demographic, whilst minute, is not the one targeted by game developers. Just imagine the game produced by focusing on those with a quarter of a century of accumulated RPG experience! If the issue of video games and art is to be settled then designers necessarily must focus on quality, not quantity of sales.

That the technology that necessitated turn based text combat has been long surpassed is no reason that melee combat should be upgraded to more closely resemble actual combat as attempted in Mass Effect and The Witcher. Pure RPG skirmishes should take days, they should be isometric (so that I may enjoy the same close bond with my characters as I do a chess piece), and they are unchanging, a lot like my social life; a beer, a Friday night, and Deep Thought, my faithful desktop, from where I keep fighting the crusade on the 'Dex.

A) Attack
D) Defend
R) Retreat

Truthfully, it's all been in decline since we lost the wireframed walls.

 

[mondblut]

Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

A fool and his 50$ are easily parted.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

Can't you know a racing game when you see one?

 

[Shannow]

Bros, I'm 36. My first game was Wizardry I (Apple IIc) and I've played every cRPG and PnP I could get my dorkish hands on since then; it's been a hell of a ride. Yet there's not a day goes by that I don't shake with fury that game designers are pitching their games at children.

It is insanity itself that my demographic, whilst minute, is not the one targeted by game developers. Just imagine the game produced by focusing on those with a quarter of a century of accumulated RPG experience! If the issue of video games and art is to be settled then designers necessarily must focus on quality, not quantity of sales.

That the technology that necessitated turn based text combat has been long surpassed is no reason that melee combat should be upgraded to more closely resemble actual combat as attempted in Mass Effect and The Witcher. Pure RPG skirmishes should take days, they should be isometric (so that I may enjoy the same close bond with my characters as I do a chess piece), and they are unchanging, a lot like my social life; a beer, a Friday night, and Deep Thought, my faithful desktop, from where I keep fighting the crusade on the 'Dex.

A) Attack
D) Defend
R) Retreat

Truthfully, it's all been in decline since we lost the wireframed walls.

At least in Germany I've seen statistics that place the average gamer at around 30 years old.
So aiming their games at the age group (14-20) that has the least disposable income, is the most prone to "pirate" and has the worst taste in everything is plain stupid. They don't make as much profit as they could and they'll make shitty games that should give them nightmares if they had anything resembling a conscience. So why do we get them? Because suits make the decisions. Suits are the morons that gave us the financial crisis. And the suits in the gaming industry are by and large only there because they were too dumb to get into the financial bizness

 

[MetalCraze]

Why doesn't Bioware just start making vusal novels?

Well they already make Laserdisc games like Mass Effect so it's only a question of time.

 

[Befuddled Halfling]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

 

[Cynic]

It's funny that when he tried to get fanboys to invade the Codecks all we got were DAO refugees a la the Oblivion exodus.

What? Was there some appeal on the Bio forums to spread the word to the heathen or the Codex (or any other place)? That would reek of desparation.

The only step in DA2 that's potentially in the right direction is the framed narrative and 10 year span that lets you see consequences play out (instead of the shitty slideshow epilogue of origins).

Other than that, I wonder why he's even going to the effort of denying that DA2's been dumbed down. The Mass Effect crowd will love that. The retards who found Origins too much to handle and quit after the Ogre of Ishaal fight will love that. The fans who loved Origins but pretended to boycott DA2 (while manically posting on the bioforums), will find their willpower breaks around March 13, at which point they will cave in to the calling and tiptoe meekly over to their local gamespot. The Bio fanbois will love anything that comes out of Laidlaw's ass, dumbed down, streamlined or whatever. So why is Laidlaw even trying here?

This is the thing. Why the fuck do they try to hide their bs motives while actually back handing people who actually like to, at least mildly, think while playing games? Why the fuck, don't they just man up and have the guts to say:

"We aim to let play and finish the game, no matter what kind of problems they have. I'm talking recovering lobotomy patients all the way to complete vegetables here. Why should they be excluded from playing RPGs?"

I mean FUCK

 

[Stainless Veteran]

Why doesn't Bioware just start making vusal novels?

Their target audience doesn't like to read, hell, they even hate silent PC, because they're forced to read and comprehend dialog lines.

Also, they doesn't want 2D - they want a glorious 3D, like in the movies, with shitton of enemies and explosions. They want to effortlessly defeat great numbers of enemies by pressing "A" button and feel like heroes. And they want cutscenes between fightan, where they could talk about feeelings, with two cosmetic choices.

 

[Hawke]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

Crimes? You mean designing fantastic RPGs? I GUFFAWED heartily.

 

[J_C]

I'm not on Codex for long enough to be sure, but is this guy a Drog alt?

If that's the case....'sup Drog.

 

[hoverdog]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

Crimes? You mean designing fantastic RPGs? I GUFFAWED heartily.

0/10

didn't GUFFAW

 

[Befuddled Halfling]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

Crimes? You mean designing fantastic RPGs? I GUFFAWED heartily.

You mean 'awesome' RPGs. So ... you, um, liked the demo, then?

 

[Roguey]

Bros, I'm 36. My first game was Wizardry I (Apple IIc) and I've played every cRPG and PnP I could get my dorkish hands on since then; it's been a hell of a ride. Yet there's not a day goes by that I don't shake with fury that game designers are pitching their games at children.

It is insanity itself that my demographic, whilst minute, is not the one targeted by game developers. Just imagine the game produced by focusing on those with a quarter of a century of accumulated RPG experience! If the issue of video games and art is to be settled then designers necessarily must focus on quality, not quantity of sales.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/index.asp

The average game player is 34 years old and has been playing games for 12 years.
The average age of the most frequent game purchaser is 40 years old.

They don't make them for kids (there are quite a few kids' games that offer more challenge than Bioware has), they make them for the Vogels of the world, adult children with busy lives who'd prefer not to have a frustrating time. In the words of the man himself, "Now I am old and slow and I think games just get too darn hard, so the ability to instantly freeze and obliterate everyone is awesome. In my fantasy world, I don't want to be a loser who is incapable of ever succeeding." Add in a virtual husband/wife and you have a temporary relief to the mid-life blues.

 

[Hawke]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

Crimes? You mean designing fantastic RPGs? I GUFFAWED heartily.

You mean 'awesome' RPGs. So ... you, um, liked the demo, then?

Why ever would you think that? I just wanked it for no reason.

 

[Mrowak]

The hate on this game is incredible. Anyway, while you guys sit here crying over how these games are dumbed down, I'll be owning ass in yet another great RPG <---- made by BioWare.

Btw, that says RPG. A true RPG.

You had me fooled for a minute there! But when you added 'true RPG' next to 'DA2' I worked out you must be one of the Origins refugees, who are on this forum to see Laidlaw die for his crimes.

(you were kidding, right?)

Crimes? You mean designing fantastic RPGs? I GUFFAWED heartily.

You mean 'awesome' RPGs. So ... you, um, liked the demo, then?

Why ever would you think that? I just wanked it for no reason.

0/10

You are not even trying, but in case my troll detector is messing with me today...

I just wanked it for no reason.

Nice Freudian slip out there. Seems to me Biowhore's mawkish, banal, shit, boring romance sims for depressed housewives are for the likes of you.

 

[Brotherman Bill]

I'm not on Codex for long enough to be sure, but is this guy a Drog alt?

If that's the case....'sup Drog.

You're learning fast, newfag




I didn't get the drog vibe however, more like bioware skirmisher - rpgcodex has gotten some press over on the bioware social network so he's probably gonna troll us some back.

 

[Mrowak]

I didn't get the drog vibe however, more like bioware skirmisher - rpgcodex has gotten some press over on the bioware social network so he's probably gonna troll us some back.

Figures...

Shame he won't last here, they never do (maybe apart from Volly)... Lack of a decent attention span, you see...