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Semiurge

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Eh, their fandom's not going to care as long as they get their precious romances, and the cringe-inducing "spice" that brings a coy blush on their acne-scarred faces. The critique Bioware can just brush off as "gamer toxicity". They have found their perfect, low-needs fanbase that shares their ideology as well.

The real question is if this fanbase is actually big enough to sustain them.

Imagine going from a broad audience developer that made iconic RPGs to... a studio with a VN audience.

It's a very strange development.

Whatever its size now, it's getting bigger thanks to early indoctrination at schools. That's always been ground zero. I'm convinced the commies might actually win this time, and all because they stopped calling themselves commies decades ago.
 
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The real question is if this fanbase is actually big enough to sustain them.

Yep. There's nothing inherently wrong with making a product targeted to a niche audience - hell, the kind of RPGs preferred here are a niche product these days - but you have to be realistic about the size of that audience and how much revenue it can provide. Putting AAA resources into a product with a niche audience is a recipe for failure.

Whether that's what Bioware has done here we'll know by the and of the year.
 

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Eh, their fandom's not going to care as long as they get their precious romances, and the cringe-inducing "spice" that brings a coy blush on their acne-scarred faces. The critique Bioware can just brush off as "gamer toxicity". They have found their perfect, low-needs fanbase that shares their ideology as well.

The real question is if this fanbase is actually big enough to sustain them.

Imagine going from a broad audience developer that made iconic RPGs to... a studio with a VN audience.

It's a very strange development.
DEI funds will go *some* way to help them.
 

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Dear god, the hits never stop coming, BioWare getting sloppy seconds from Larian, what's next?

:shredder:

Apparently one of the VOs for Rook is "best known" for BG3's sex noises.

https://www.eurogamer.net/baldurs-gate-3-sex-noise-specialist-leads-dragon-age-the-veilguard-cast
 

sosmoflux

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They'll tell you "Just watch porn" when a conventionally attractive woman is in a game and then cum on one of thier twelve cats over literal "sex noises" in a woke game.

They're not serious people.
 
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Bruh, you gotta stop generalizing people as "they/them", stop making your own shadow on the wall to scare yourself like this.

You're an adult Homo chudling, let's think with a little bit more nuance. Yes, both are fundamentally selling sex, but there are differences between having sex noise during sex scene vs. women wearing striper uniform/outfit as if it's a normal thing to do.
 

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Bruh, you gotta stop generalizing people as "they/them", stop making your own shadow on the wall to scare yourself like this.

You're an adult Homo chudling, let's think with a little bit more nuance. Yes, both are fundamentally selling sex, but there are differences between having sex noise during sex scene vs. women wearing striper uniform/outfit as if it's a normal thing to do.

Yeah, the former is cringe, the latter is based.
 

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HammyTheFat

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Luke Kristjanson was fired too in 2023. Brenon Holmes is one based man left aft BioWare.
Apparently Darrah was rehired last year but I couldnt be bothered to update my funny picture or even see if it's true. Firing him was actually a good thing so it would be funny if they desperately rehired him.

I've been wondering for years if there was any truth to the rumors that Jade Empire was the game Muzyka & Zeschuk always wanted to make and that selling off to EA was because they didn't care anymore after that.
 
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no attractive females to romance
Sucks to be you, Cora was a fantastic in Andromeda and Cassandra was fantastic in Inquisition.

I'd probably locked in for Harding's bunda but we'll see if other characters has better story/personality.

TBH you deserve ugly chicks if you're in the role of Chad Ironballs, Slayer of Demons and you're going around doing romances instead of fucking groupies every day.
Yep.

Piss in the Face, you for hot to trot for 2 hard 5’s and a literal dwarf bro?

whew
 
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It's a cargo cult of Larian marketing. Larian also targeted furry porn art and fanfic lovers, because they were largely unexplored territory for "renaissance CRPG" games. Bioware now is targeting almost exclusively furry porn art and fanfic lovers, which is a small part of BG3 players, despite disproportional marketing efforts.
 

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I'm going to promote a well-written post from Steam that so far hasn't gotten any likes. The good ones seldom do.

Weeks said something like: "Blood Magic is not a hero way".
Someone, please tell this person that protagonist and a hero are different terms. What about people who weren't going to play a hero in shiny armor? What about the different alignments according to a moral compass?
In previous games they showed us that blood magic is merely a tool, yes, a dangerous one, but why now make absolute evil out of it? By the way, isn't necromancy in general considered as bad as blood magic?

There is only one "right" way we have to follow their story, and it's the wrong approach when it comes to RPG games. It seems that after working in one place for too long you become rigid...

We can make a protagonist from Tevinter... AND OF COURSE, he's from the faction that fights capitalism for the rights of poor and oppressed people. They could've made it different as it is expected from an RPG, to give the possibility to be at least a morally gray protagonist, but no, we're going to play a hero. Everything from this game screams "modern values", and I'm sick of it. I've been waiting for the game in the famous “Evil Empire” setting for the last 10 years only to know that I would be another Superman saving the world. Screw that.

I'm afraid the only meaningful choice we will have is the choice of the person we will share the bed with. Good job, Bioware =\ If I wanted to play gay dating simulator I'd play Robin Morningwood Adventure or Monster Prom. If I wanted to be a hero I'd play Spider-Man. If I wanted to play social simulation I'd play Sims. Why should I play a game that is the next one in the RPG series but no longer an RPG?

Everyone knows by now that Bioware is in financial trouble, and this has lead to increased streamlining, along with more profound SBI involvement to minimise risks. They can't tell you the truth however, so this is how you get these pathetic excuses. They essentially tell you that having these narrative options is distasteful and that you should agree with them automatically. They could've just said that most people pick the fighter class and play a hero and they're deliberately trying to keep the scope manageable so that's why certain options aren't available, and people would've been more willing to accept that as it makes sense.

It is the statistical truth, after all. But being the corpo-led worms that they are, they resort to lies.
 
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Larian had already shown extensive amount of gameplay rather early. So early that the game was prone to crash live on front of the crowd. Still chuckle about the gasp in the audience and the online rageaholics after the realization that BG3 was indeed going to be a turn-based game. But I know, I know... it's a fluke, an anomaly, caused by a rift in the time, space and profits continuum only ever happening once in twenty generations of GeForce. Nobody should ever judge big budget blockbusting productions by accidents like that and make poor little gazillion Dollar competitors look worse than they are.

Oh my bad , the characters that people really liked before were.. not done on purpose. The new ones are for real, on god, done intentionally
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Source: https://www.pcgamer.com/games/drago...flow&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com
The best thing about BG1 and BG2 were the rulesets.

Totally not any intention, ever.


Baldur's Gate 1 had followers who had personalities, and they talked a little bit, but he wanted to make them much more detailed: give them plots and entire arcs. That really interested me because I loved writing characters.

For me, a lot of my early work was about, "What can I do with these characters?" I think the first follower I wrote was Valygar [Corthala], the ranger. The bare bones of the Planar Sphere plot were given to me by James as, "This will be his quest." I fleshed that out and wrote the arcs around it: you would get these dialogues first, and back then followers would speak randomly, so you'd get these dialogues and once the third one fired the Planar Sphere plot could begin, and here's what happened after the plot.

I liked the idea of expanding the follower stories to make them not like a novel, but a whole story in and of itself. I liked the idea of those being character focused.


And all by nothing but accident.

“I’m very competitive,” Ohlen says. “I went and played Final Fantasy VII and was like, ‘Oh my good god, these characters make ours look like a bunch of cardboard cutouts. This is terrible.’” The disparity convinced BioWare to up their game, leading to the complex journeys of companions like Jaheira - the grieving wife and activist, whose sense of duty has been shaken by so much loss.


Now they only need to repeat that often enough, and the promotional line becomes the accepted truth.
 
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Vermillion

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Since there's no reason to be excited for this piece of shit game, what are some good cope videos for me to laugh at?
 

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