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Salvo

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I hate the fact that if this game was a bit more polished and less repetitive it would truly be GOTC, feels like wasted potential
 

Lutte

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I hate the fact that if this game was a bit more polished and less repetitive it would truly be GOTC, feels like wasted potential
I just want a mod that entirely removes the open world, has a tiny overworld that links all the major legacy dungeons ala zelda, and some thoughtful added placements of smithing stones to replace the lost mines - GOOD RIDDANCE.

The dungeons are the wasted potential drowned by the mass of open world garbage.
 

Lyric Suite

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BTW, in case anybody is wondering how am i faring in Caelid, yes, i'm totally cheesing the birds with rotten breath.

Fuck that shit lmao.
 

Efe

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giant dogs at least die in a few hits
birds are especially worse cos dont drop anything of value and chase love you long long time
 

Lyric Suite

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I just rode past them. Why cheese if they are just trashmobs and usually don't even drop anything of value.

I like to "own" a section so that i can explore every nook and cranny in peace.

I'm a sweeper. Just kill and loot and explore everything before moving on the next portion of the map.
 

Lyric Suite

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giant dogs at least die in a few hits
birds are especially worse cos dont drop anything of value and chase love you long long time

And take forever to die. Out of curiosity i tried to do them the old fashioned way, shield and a non-bleed weapon and while it was "safer" it took so long it wasn't worth it, and even with a big shield safety is a relative thing with giant enemies since their hit box can easily "get you" in the back even if they attack you right up front.

I can kill them with my power stanced bleed swords but the rink of getting one shot randomly is too great to bother.
 

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Fun fact, did you guys know that Malenia is in fact NOT immune to Scarlet Rot? She's just very resistant to it, took me three (or was it four?) full casts of Ezekyel's Breath on her face before the rot would stick. Combined with the fact that during her first phase she only slowly walks around if you don't attack her, there is a world where you could potentially cheese her that way :lol:

Yes, I do like to test stupid shit when learning a major boss, helps me keep my sanity.
 
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Keep in mind that Porky entered a hundred random dungeons he stumbled across in Morrowind, and then complained they didn't have quests attached to them, only rarely had powerful artifacts, and that he found them repetitive.

Actually, I complained that they were copy pasted basically. Slightly different layouts, but otherwise, once you've seen one, you've seen them all. Unlike say Gothic 1/2's unique hand-placed dungeons. And that's when your butthurt first began to flow. :)

Keep in mind that Porky died against Pinwheel in Dark Souls.

As did you.

Keep in mind that Porky put together a poll on best historical fiction novels by compiling random lists he stumbled across in an internet search, then took umbrage when we pointed out that many on his poll weren't actually historical fiction.

Yes, I already broke your cheap argument in that thread, so since you ran away from there, I will break it again here, free of charge. This is how normal people put together polls, Doink, we are not arrogant enough not to use other people's lists to come up with something really comprehensive, as opposed to you, who is so full of himself, he thinks he knows all the best shit based on what he happened to read. ;)

Keep in mind that Porky couldn't think to use ice magic against a fire-breathing dragon in Dragon's Dogma, then came here to complain about how difficult the fight was.

Uhhh, I had a fighter build, and unlike you, I actually role-play my classes. Not everyone needs to cheese everything to get past game obstacles. Checkmate bucko.

Porky, you have barely said anything of value in the last 10 pages of this thread. You keep repeating "ahah, you're all stupid, I'm the best, Zed Doink of Banville, you have no skills, Gene Wolfe hurt my feelings" ad nauseam while rating everyone butthurt. I don't know what perverted mechanism or deep trauma makes you get enjoyment out of being made fun of online, but it is kind of a sad display. Stop it, seek help. Or at least stick to your "I played X and it sucks" series of threads, at least those are interesting.

Oh, that's rich coming from a guy who spent the last 10 pages saying "you died to pinwheel". If you are going to repeat stupid shit, NJCluck, I will do likewise, except like everything else, I will do it better. :smug:
 

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Bigg Boss

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I just rode past them. Why cheese if they are just trashmobs and usually don't even drop anything of value.
This is my elite tier strategy for a lot of the hard mobs in the game. They often drop like 800 or 1500 souls and take 5 minutes to fight while I can make a bird run off a cliff for 11k and then flame blast frogmen for another 20k.
 
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I am still pretty early in, but so far, the 2 best spots I've found for farming runes quick are:

1. The trolls on that plateau on Stormhill. There are 5 of them, each drops 1k runes, and their patterns are very predictable, so easy 5k runes per bonfire reset. Very good early on.

2. After that, the battle between the rotted dogs/rats and Radagan's soldiers near the unpassable bridge in Caelid. Since they fight each other mostly, it's fairly safe, and you can easily get several thousand runes per run. If you want more, just keep running west after that, and kill the many rotted dogs/crows there yourself for thousands more.
 

Old Hans

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do you guys really hate crucible knights?
I hate 'em. they remind me of some shitty dark souls 2 enemy.
do you guys really hate crucible knights?
Yes. Absolutely. They never stop attacking. They input read. They never stagger. They basically do whatever the fuck they want and you're left picking up the crumbs.
One crucible knight could kill O&S AND Gwynn at the same time.
Actually, the bastard in not shrine of storms could probably kill everything in DeS and DS1.

Just parry them, especially the sword and board guy is easy to parry
which would be fine if you only had to parry him 1 time & if you mess up once youre in big trouble
 
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Parry is really not worth it in ER. Just look at that video lutte posted above. He has to parry him 30 times, for tiny damage, and of course misses some and gets hit by a truck. They really borked parry up ever since DaS1. First delayed parry frames in DaS2 and DaS3, now they removed that in ER but added bullshit-ly unpredictable enemy attacks and nerfed damage.
 

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Finished, just beat Placidusax for good measure after the last boss.

What a game that was. Not perfect no, but by god it's the best open world game I've played. Actually feel a bit empty now it's over, might even start a new character for running through again. 10/10, would even rage at Malenia again.
 

Lutte

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He has to parry him 30 times, for tiny damage

Errr, that was an unupgraded longsword, of course the damage is total garbo. Weapons with enhanced critical damage modifiers + the dagger talisman can make it very much worth it, I just did it that way and so early in this character run because I found fighting a prolonged fight with him fun (and I ain't upgrading shit until this char has enough stat to make wielding colossal weapons viable since they're what I want to upgrade, this is a meme run).

The rapier and misericorde can totally destroy things with critical hits.

Also parry can become even easier than using something like a buckler later on, parry ashes of war like carrian retaliation and golden parry have a larger hitbox, the parry frames are the same but because of the hitboxes you're plain much more likely to get a parry done even when you suck at it, those ashes make Elden Ring feel like Bloodborne, which had the sweetest parries in souls games.

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Le tiny damage. (no buff used in this)
 
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Hhmm, maybe I should try a parry build after all. I started one run with a bandit (for the buckler shield), but while I could parry regular sized humanoids, mounted enemies and larger sized bosses were impossible, probably because of the distance calculations. Maybe with these ashes it would work better.

The build I have now works but is kinda boring.
 

Lutte

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Hhmm, maybe I should try a parry build after all.
ive tried this many times. all these dreams of being a parry master like the youtube videos. then I get bamboozled by some random foot soldier and I snap out of my delusions
It works fine though, just a question of timings. I've come to find it safer than waiting for openings that are treacherous and end up with you trading. Things like Banished Knights can be severely annoying without parry.


If you learn the timings well enough, a few wiffs where you mistime a little tend to end in partial parries, where you get much less damage than a missed dodge btw.
 

SumDrunkGuy

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Finished, just beat Placidusax for good measure after the last boss.

What a game that was. Not perfect no, but by god it's the best open world game I've played. Actually feel a bit empty now it's over, might even start a new character for running through again. 10/10, would even rage at Malenia again.

Yep it's a trip. Should win Codex's prestigious RPGOTY award by a landslide. If it doesn't then everybody here is fucked in the head and just jealous of From Software's superiority at everything.
 

Volrath

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do you guys really hate crucible knights?
Yes. Absolutely. They never stop attacking. They input read. They never stagger. They basically do whatever the fuck they want and you're left picking up the crumbs.
One crucible knight could kill O&S AND Gwynn at the same time.
Actually, the bastard in not shrine of storms could probably kill everything in DeS and DS1.
Flame of the redmanes :M
 

Andnjord

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Hhmm, maybe I should try a parry build after all.
ive tried this many times. all these dreams of being a parry master like the youtube videos. then I get bamboozled by some random foot soldier and I snap out of my delusions
It really does depend on the enemy. Take the Bell Bearing Hunter for example. He has two combos that can be parried. One starts with a swing from his right side that's heavily delayed (which I find is the hardest to get right), and the other one starts with a swing from his left side that is much faster but I find easier to parry due to being a case of 'arm moves=press L2 almost instantly for success'. Two moves, easy to tell appart and very different from the rest of his moveset.

Meanwhile the standard spear and shield mook I find infuriating to parry, his main spear thrust is nigh on impossible to parry in time due to how fast it comes out (it's just too fast for my brain to have the time to see what's coming, decide if it's the fast or slow attack, then press L2; only works if I press L2 the moment I see a muscle twitch on him, but then who knos if it was the correct move), and the slower one is just fast enough to clip you if you insta pressed L2 thinking it was gonna be his fast move.

You're not so much practicing to improve your general parries as much as practicing to parry one specific enemy at a time. I parry-mastered my way through Magrit with my Samurai Jim-Bob only to utterly fail at parrying a normal mace and shield mook 5 minutes later for example :lol:
 

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Hhmm, maybe I should try a parry build after all.
ive tried this many times. all these dreams of being a parry master like the youtube videos. then I get bamboozled by some random foot soldier and I snap out of my delusions

I've been watching some of Ongbal's ER videos and I'm almost convinced the man is an AI built by Elon Musk purely for the purpose of crushing Souls games. I look at him and it all seems so easy, just like rock paper scissors. Then I have a go and I'm panic rolling as soon as Malenia lifts her sword up. Sometimes you just gotta accept, there are people that can play so much better than you.

 

Andnjord

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Hhmm, maybe I should try a parry build after all.
ive tried this many times. all these dreams of being a parry master like the youtube videos. then I get bamboozled by some random foot soldier and I snap out of my delusions

I've been watching some of Ongbal's ER videos and I'm almost convinced the man is an AI built by Elon Musk purely for the purpose of crushing Souls games. I look at him and it all seems so easy, just like rock paper scissors. Then I have a go and I'm panic rolling as soon as Malenia lifts her sword up. Sometimes you just gotta accept, there are people that can play so much better than you.


I find his stuff oddly relaxing to watch. Everything is smooth, calculated, precise. There's no panic, no over or under extension. T'is beautiful to see.

Also really useful whenever I'm asking myself "can this guy actually be paried?"
 
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