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ELEX II - Jax is back

Discussion in 'Piranha Bytes' started by Cassar, Jun 15, 2021.

  1. BruceVC Augur

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    True, I like those types of design decisions and I love exploiting the AI in these types of games
    For example I remember when I was level 5 I made a slugbeast follow me back to the Berserker camp, it killed numerous NPCs on the way to the camp which was funny seeing people die trying to kill it but when the slugbeast arrived in the camp it was killed by the high level Berserkers ..very entertaining and I claimed the treasure afterwards :D
     
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    I've been playing Elex recently. Gonna replay it again, this time with a slightly different build.
     
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    https://gamingbolt.com/elex-2-interview-side-quests-choices-combat-and-more

     
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  8. Tihskael Educated

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    Settlement Building? If that is the case, PB must have taken notes from Todd's Codex of premium game design.
     
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    I mean origin is already somewhat like that, but it ended up very barenone and tacked on, but it does serve better purpose than fallout 4'a base building.

    Elex's origin serve as a hub for merchants and companions. It has unique quests and characters that tie a little with the MQ (repairing your airplane) but nonetheless it felt pretty barebones. I suspect they planned it as tertiary faction that's not tied to the main 3, but they lack time and resources to fully implement it so it ended up very barebone. If elex 2 were to expand that concept of tertiary faction and they are able to tie it more into the main story, it will be great.
     
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  10. BruceVC Augur

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    ELEX 2 is looking great, I like the fact they have increased the length of the game and doubled the companion quests
    That was one minor criticism I had with EXEX 1, I found some of the companion quests lacking in depth....and it would be nice to see some hotter female Romance arcs but thats just a nice to have and not a serious expectation. I found the character models to look similar so some diversity would be nice :cool:
     
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    I've not even gotten around to trying the first Elex, looks like I'll have to bump it up in the list. I only recently bought the first Risen game and haven't tried it yet, either.
     
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    Let's not go crazy here.
     
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  13. BruceVC Augur

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    I mean in the way companions look, the models looked the same. I dont mean I expect to see every race represented :cool:
     
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  14. BruceVC Augur

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    You should start with the Gothic games if you havent played them yet and then move onto Risen....they all great and entertaining games and you will become familiar with the PB design of their RPG
     
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    Thank you very much for the advice, yes that is precisely what I was beginning to do after having heard about Gothic II for so many years.

    So earlier this summer what I did was purchase Gothic and Gothic II, Risen and Elex and intended to at least try them out to see if they're for me. Mostly I play older games like the Wizardry series, Wasteland, Daggerfall, the Gold Box games and of course I cut my teeth on a very small number of those games but primarily on the later '90s RPGs like Fallout and Baldur's Gate but I do like to branch out and try many different kinds of RPGs, and even games that don't necessarily embrace that style of gameplay like the Stalker series.

    Morrowind is in my top 10 games of all time and it is one of the rare exceptions to the 2D sprite animated games involving far more complicated combat mechanics that are my main interest, and the Gothic series has been in my peripheral view for over a decade but for whatever reasons I just never got around to it. After buying them I set about getting them set up on my gaming laptop, I recall having to install a patch for Gothic II in order to get it to even load properly but it was back in June or thereabouts and I don't recall which one it was off hand. I ended up starting with Gothic II with the notion that I'd just play it for a bit to get a feel for it and then start over with the first game, but I ended up playing for under an hour and got distracted with something and haven't returned yet.

    From what I experienced it seemed like something I could definitely get into, only that I was confused by the first-person view (which I got the impression is a feature but that the game is not designed around being played within it?) and that the controls were somewhat awkward for me. Nothing terribly off-putting and I remain interested, especially because of how much passion the games appear to instill in so many people. I suppose I ought to give it another shot and really sink some time into it.. perhaps I'll do just that this coming weekend, and put off the later Risen and Elex games until I familiarize myself with their design, as you suggest.
     
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    When you think about it ELEX is the whitest game ever.
    There are only whites in it and super whites.
    And the more powerful you become the more white you get.
     
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    There's no reason to be alive if you don't play Gothic.
     
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  18. BruceVC Augur

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    Its interesting because I have been on almost the opposite RPG journey to you, I only invested in my first real gaming rig in 2007 and the first RPG I ever played on it was Morrowind and Gothic 3. I recently replayed Morrowind using the Nexus Vortex mod manager, I love using Mods in games especially Elder Scroll games and I agree Morrowind is in my top 10 list

    But I have never played Wizardry, M&M or the Ultima series except for Ulitma 8 and Ultima Online which I thoroughly enjoyed but I intend to play all these older RPG. Like you I enjoy branching out and trying different RPG

    But all the PB games are similar to Elder Scrolls in the sense they offer Sandbox and open world design and also enemies that will annilliate you until you get to the right level, no level scaling that I can recall which I prefer. And their are always factions which you eventually have to align with one but you can do multiple quests from all the factions until a certain point

    But for me ELEX 1 really had the the best components of everything PB had learnt through the years but yes, give Gothic and Risen a go before ELEX just so you can experience the design journey :cool:
     
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    Awesome! Yea I look forward to discovering these series that so many people are so fond of, I want to see for myself what the attraction is.

    Like you I also prefer games that do not have level scaling and are genuinely open to where profound difficulty can be encountered by exploring aimlessly. I didn't have a PC in my family until I was about 10 which would have been in 1995, and the only games I can recall having were Doom, Wolfenstein 3D and a few platform titles which I can see if I close my eyes but have long since forgotten the titles, and they were all copied 3.5 floppies from the neighbor who helped my mother set the computer up. But I had a few friends with better PCs, AOL internet access and CD drives and got to experience some of those classic titles at their homes but not until I was 15 or so did I get to experience them on my own (again with burned copies, lol).

    As an adult I've always had PCs because my wife likes to build them, but they are mostly used by my children and I would only occasionally go on binges to replay games like Morrowind and Fallout and the many mods that have since been released. But earlier this year I went ahead and dropped more money on a single item than I've ever done for myself and bought a monstrously powerful gaming laptop, just so that I can play DOS games from 1990 haha. But it's "my" computer, and devoted 100% to games, I refuse to put anything non-gaming related on it.

    I have some modern games of course, like Arma 3, Pathfinder Kingmaker, all of the Witcher games, a few others on an SSD but the internal SSD I have loaded up with hundreds of older RPGs and emulators for Amiga and Apple II, Atari ST, &c. It is glorious and a major reason why I finally decided to become a member and start posting here, and wanted to become a patron because this site more than any other has advised me countless times on modding, how to get games working on modern systems, understanding the arcane minutiae of complicated games that I'm not overly familiar with, and not to mention introduced me to God alone knows how many awesome games that I'd not even heard of, with Grimoire being the one that pushed my enthusiasm over the edge and got me to actively post.

    I of course read the top 70 and the newer list and saw how much Gothic is adored and it is a big part of the reason why I bought the games, because otherwise I'd only hear about it in passing in other, more focused communities. Same with Risen and Elex, and I just had to buy my own copies to check them out, but got caught up in Grimoire and getting back into Wizardry as a result, which these days is awesome because of the many tools available from auto-mapping programs to things like Cosmic Forge.

    By the way I just wanted to point out in passing that I highly, and I mean very highly, recommend that you switch to MO2 (Mod Organizer) for Morrowind modding, it takes more effort to learn but is by far the best modding system for that game and for the others it supports. You run the game through instances, each using a virtual folder system, so that your vanilla install is competelley untouched and you can have multiple instances of variously modded versions of the same game. I learned the hard way when I accidentally installed multiple texture packs that were overwriting each other and had to go through thousands of files by hand to remove duplicates and triplicates, it was an entire weekend affair. Since switching to MO2 I've never looked back.
     
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  20. BruceVC Augur

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    Great post and thanks for going into details, I created an account on Codex in 2011 but I never posted on the forums until a few weeks ago, I do post on other forums like Obsidian. I have decided to become active on Codex because of how busy it is and also the depth of knowledge from gamers and experience people have in games like the older games that you played like Wizardry. I enjoy the political and non-gaming discussions but my primary interest on these forums is gaming

    Thanks for the advice on MO2 and I may pick your brain later when I play Wizardry :cool:
     
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    Thank you very much, and I look forward to discussing Wizardry with you in the future!

    I have no where near the level of knowledge that some people here have but I can certainly discuss most aspects of it in detail. I like the social and political discussions here too because the free thinking and speaking attitude is increasingly rare and exceedingly worth praising, but I'm mostly interested in the games like you are. I was up until after 02:00 this morning talking with my wife about the cultural decline and lack of tradition, social alienation, homogenized appeals to cultural ameliorating that utterly erase social values, degeneracy and near-sighted self-righteous exceptionalism, &c so I already am discussing these issues at length in real life, for which no doubt I'm fortunate. Only here do I find the level of interest in RPGs that matches my own and that is mainly all I'm particularly interested in as far as online discussions go. But it is certainly entertaining, I just no longer maintain an urge to engage in that kind of thing like I used to; these days I mostly just read and keep to myself.
     
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    ELEX brings people together and repairs broken families.
     
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    this has got to be trolling, right? whose alt are you?
     
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