Elite Dangerous devs making a Warhammer Age of Sigmar RTS

[Black_Willow]

on PC and console platforms...

Has there been one RTS targeted for multi platform that was actually any good?

Warzone 2100

 

[Citizen]

Has there been one RTS targeted for multi platform that was actually any good?

Dune 2?

 

[Urthor]

It is the most Elite Dangerous thing ever to come up with an absolutely brilliant game idea then fuck it up completely by doing one completely avoidable thing, namely Age of Sigmar

 

[J_C]

It is the most Elite Dangerous thing ever to come up with an absolutely brilliant game idea then fuck it up completely by doing one completely avoidable thing, namely Age of Sigmar

Honestly, does it even matter for an RTS what kind of lore or background do they base it on? If the gameplay is good, then it will be a good fucking game, even it takes place in one of the shittier Warhammer settings.

 

[thesheeep]

In the end I'm just saying that just because their Elite game is ...questionable in design, they can do good, gameplay heavy games.

How is Elite questionable in design?
It is probably the best game of its kind out there.

The only thing somewhat close is X4, and that's a steaming pile of bugs (yes, still) and design decisions so stupid it boggles the mind.

 

[J_C]

In the end I'm just saying that just because their Elite game is ...questionable in design, they can do good, gameplay heavy games.

How is Elite questionable in design?
It is probably the best game of its kind out there.

The only thing somewhat close is X4, and that's a steaming pile of bugs (yes, still) and design decisions so stupid it boggles the mind.

Jesus... If I'm saying good things about elite, I'm a retard. If I say it has issues, I'm still wrong.
You people are incredible. :D

 

[Urthor]

In the end I'm just saying that just because their Elite game is ...questionable in design, they can do good, gameplay heavy games.

How is Elite questionable in design?
It is probably the best game of its kind out there.

The only thing somewhat close is X4, and that's a steaming pile of bugs (yes, still) and design decisions so stupid it boggles the mind.

The RTS equivalent for Elite Dangerous would be releasing literally Starcraft 2 but you only had custom maps/skirmish mode vs the AI.

No campaign, no multiplayer, just the best game to actually play in terms of mechanics, with nothing to do in it.

Age of Sigmar is just a sign that Frontier is still kicking on with making extremely questionable while making their products.

 

[Norfleet]

And why an RTS? AoS' focus is mostly small armies / squad based.

RTSes are small armies, often squad-based, though. I mean, how many units do you typically have in an RTS? Not a LARGE army, for sure.

 

[Fedora Master]

I suspect GW saw the success of TW Warhammer and falsely assumed making an AoS video game would raise interest in it, when the reason people like Wawa is that it isn't AoS and treats WHFB well.

 

[thesheeep]

The RTS equivalent for Elite Dangerous would be releasing literally Starcraft 2 but you only had custom maps/skirmish mode vs the AI.

No campaign, no multiplayer, just the best game to actually play in terms of mechanics, with nothing to do in it.

It's called a sandbox. You make your own goals. I'm having tons of things to do in it, for dozens of hours already and more to come, until I'm eventually satisfied.
Not everyone's cup of tea, sure, but there's nothing questionable about it. Might as well criticize M&B for it.

What IS questionable is that in-game store, but at least it's only cosmetics afaik... and you are earning the currency by just playing the game (albeit very slowly so I'm sure enough people pay with cash).

 

[Fedora Master]

There are literally only 4 things to do and the mechanics never change. You THINK there's something there because you're new to the game but ultimately it all comes down to "aiming at a thing" and "spending 70% of your time in witchspace".

The same design applies to JWE, you create a dino and put it in a cage and that's it. No personalities to the dinos, no management in your park. It's only gameplay in the most minimal sense.

 

[vonAchdorf]

JWE looks good, but is really shallow.

 

[thesheeep]

There are literally only 4 things to do and the mechanics never change. You THINK there's something there because you're new to the game but ultimately it all comes down to "aiming at a thing" and "spending 70% of your time in witchspace".

The same design applies to JWE, you create a dino and put it in a cage and that's it. No personalities to the dinos, no management in your park. It's only gameplay in the most minimal sense.

I'd hardly call having 50+ hours in a game being "new" to it. This ain't HoI4

Sure, you can fly somewhere, shoot things, transport things and generally aim at things. And you spend lots of time in space.
If you want, you can describe every single game every created with non-descriptions like that and make it sound super silly.

You know Battle Brothers? You can only click buttons there and tell your units to attack other units, using a limited set of abilities until one side is dead. It's the only thing you do and the mechanics never change. You THINK there's something there because you are new at the game but ultimately it all comes down to "click ability" and "spending 70% of your time hoping RNG won't fuck you too badly".

Look, I don't know where Frontier touched you in wrong ways, but it is pretty clear you have some bone to pick with them. But reaching as far as trying to paint a completely unrelated project in an artificially negative light seems unnecessary.

Especially given that JWE is indeed shallow for a game of its kind.
Which, given its closer relation to the RTS genre, might not bode too well.

Idk... I have 0 interest in Age Of Sigmar, though, so the gameplay would really have to be ecstatic to get me to buy this.
But just one glance at those ridiculous Sigmarines and all interest I might have had just evaporates immediately.


Edit:
Inb4 the project fails for obvious reasons and people claim it would be because "RTS is dead".

 

[Fedora Master]

Fdev touched my "massively wasted potential" nerve.

 

[JarlFrank]

Who the fuck asked for an Age of Sigmar game?

Games Workshop, I presume, after seeing TW:W's success

Which was successful not only because of the IP, but because Total War is a successful series with an existing fanbase and solid gameplay mechanics.

 

[Monkeyfinger]

 

[Aemar]

What is the difference between age of sigmar and the warhammer fantasy? I thought it was basically the same thing: zoomer edition?

 

[Infinitron]

https://otp.tools.investis.com/clie...regulatory-story.aspx?cid=1725&newsid=1542817

Our Warhammer Age of Sigmar IP real-time strategy game planned for release during calendar 2023 will now release later in that calendar year, falling in FY24. This change will further improve the quality and longevity of the game, and overall make it more successful.

 

[Tyranicon]

While reading thread title:

Elite Dangerous devs making a Warhammer




...Age of Sigmar RTS

 

[what am i doing]

If they were making a Warhammer fantasy RTS I'd say it's a bit redundant with Total Warhammer, if they were making a 40k RTS I'd be tentatively excited (tentatively because it's Frontier, and Elite Dangerous suggests they don't really approve of the whole concept of fun) but Age of Sigmar? Not even worth pirating.

 

[Trithne]

Morbidly interested to see how they go about taking all the fun out of a Warhammer RTS. Though I guess being AoS instead of WHFB gives them some help.

on PC and console platforms...

Has there been one RTS targeted for multi platform that was actually any good?

I think Supreme Commander was technically released on consoles though I have no idea how in the hell it would actually run on them.

Pretty sure that was Supreme Commander 2, which was massively stripped down from the previous game.

 

[what am i doing]

Morbidly interested to see how they go about taking all the fun out of a Warhammer RTS. Though I guess being AoS instead of WHFB gives them some help.

on PC and console platforms...

Has there been one RTS targeted for multi platform that was actually any good?

I think Supreme Commander was technically released on consoles though I have no idea how in the hell it would actually run on them.

Pretty sure that was Supreme Commander 2, which was massively stripped down from the previous game.

I looked it up and the original SupCom did indeed come out on the Xbox 360 (whereas Forged Alliance did not).

 

[baud]

Morbidly interested to see how they go about taking all the fun out of a Warhammer RTS. Though I guess being AoS instead of WHFB gives them some help.

on PC and console platforms...

Has there been one RTS targeted for multi platform that was actually any good?

I think Supreme Commander was technically released on consoles though I have no idea how in the hell it would actually run on them.

Pretty sure that was Supreme Commander 2, which was massively stripped down from the previous game.

I looked it up and the original SupCom did indeed come out on the Xbox 360 (whereas Forged Alliance did not).

though I don't think they targeted the xbox 360 from the get go: released on PC in 02/2007, on xbox in 09/2008 and the port was made by another studio