Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

[Haba]

I wonder if I can get my GTAV refunded because of this.

 

[Tehdagah]

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/kine...ng-on-other-storefronts-to-have-a-steam-page/

Kine dev: “Valve wants developers that are releasing on other storefronts to have a Steam page”

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

I think I suspect reason, why Rockstar doing it. It's because they want to sell data gathered from their client to people interested in such information.

 

[passerby]

“Valve wants developers that are releasing on other storefronts to have a Steam page. They want their customers to be able to wishlist the game on Steam as soon as they see a trailer elsewhere.

I told you, it's still more of a promotion for Steam, then for the games. In fact publishers by agreeing and announcing the fact exclusivity is timed in advance got played by Valve imo.
It's less of these 12% cut D1P full price + DLCs later sales for them and more 50% off GOTY sales at 30% cut.

 

[J_C]

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/kine...ng-on-other-storefronts-to-have-a-steam-page/

Kine dev: “Valve wants developers that are releasing on other storefronts to have a Steam page”

Simple. Valve is a business, which is not run by emotions. They want to make money, and the longer there is a storepage on Steam, the more wishlists and visibility that game gets. So after the Steam release, the more people will buy it, and making more money to Valve. And of course the developer.

 

[passerby]

So after the Steam release, the more people will buy it, and making more money to Valve. And of course the developer.

This is how Valve sells it, but a gamer wishlistig a game mentally moves it into skip and wait for a sale notification email category.
It'll sure help to sell more on Steam, but I have doubts it'll help to make more money for the develeper than D1P on Epic would.
I suspect it also encourages many people to do neither, which they don't talk about. Overall it probably doesn't affect sales that much either way.

 

[J_C]

So after the Steam release, the more people will buy it, and making more money to Valve. And of course the developer.

This is how Valve sells it, but a gamer wishlistig a game mentally moves it into skip and wait for a sale notification email category.
It'll sure help to sell more on Steam, but I have doubts it'll help to make more money for the develeper than D1P on Epic would.
I suspect it also encourages many people to do neither, which they don't talk about. Overall it probably doesn't affect sales that much either way.

Oh you're right. I'm just talking about Valve's perspective, the reason why they are encouraging having a Steam page.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

When it requires as much or more effort to acquire a game as pirating it then people will simply pirate it.
A game that's already released but not out on steam is just going to get pirated, not wishlisted.

 

[JarlFrank]

When it requires as much or more effort to acquire a game as pirating it then people will simply pirate it.
A game that's already released but not out on steam is just going to get pirated, not wishlisted.

Yeah. I used to pirate exclusively. Then I started buying from Steam, GoG, Humble, etc. Directly from developer websites when that's the only way to get it and the download is a neat DRM-free installer. itch.io for some obscure games only available there, it also has direct downloads of installers.

But if publishers want to push additional launchers on me that aren't Steam or GoG Galaxy, I'm gonna go back to pirating because that's more convenient than managing a dozen accounts and remembering the passwords for all of them.

 

[passerby]

managing a dozen accounts and remembering the passwords for all of them.

Try harder and point out issues that actually exist

 

[vortex]

A point of view of indie developer and EGS. The world seems cool. Too bad he's making walking simulator which I'm not interested at all.

 

[JarlFrank]

managing a dozen accounts and remembering the passwords for all of them.

Try harder and point out issues that actually exist

Having your games spread around multiple accounts, most of which all use their own DRM, is an issue that actually exists you fucking imbecile.

 

[passerby]

I have six icons on the desktop, don't have to manage shit, just click an icon, then another inside the launcher and don't have to remeber a single password.
So, dozen accounts, managing, and remembering passwords are clearly issues that don't exist, you lovely genius.

Would it be slightly more convenient if I had it all on Steam ? Sure, but Valve is the only company that could stop it.
It's a business not a charity though, just like publishers, so it's not going to happen until it loose a significant part of market share.

 

[FeelTheRads]

A game that's already released but not out on steam is just going to get pirated, not wishlisted.

People just don't buy games if they're not on Steam, but Steam is totally not a monopoly!!!!!!!!!!!! Bro, totally it isn't!!!!!

And this is a good thing! If people buy from only one company that is a good thing for everybody! Believe me, I'm totally not a braindead unpaid shill. Totally not in love with Gaben's cock.

Oh, by the way, I was looking at Amplitude Studios and all their games are exclusive to Steam, with Endless Space being exclusive for 7 years already.
But if a game is exclusive for 1 year on something else than Steam then it's the end of the world.

Excuse me, not exclusive on Steam, it's Steam-only. Does that make you less butthurt, steamtards? If we call it Steam-only instead of Steam-exclusive? Even though no matter what you call it, it means that one can't get the game without having to use Steam. And somehow this is a good thing. Being forced to use a client is good if the client is Steam because Steam is the best client, even though I don't give a shit about any of the so awesome features it has. Yeah, it's soooooo good.

Or maybe Steam-only is not correct either? Because theoretically they CAN release their games somewhere else too. Yeah, that must be it. Let's not be hasty. 7 years is not THAT long. Could happen anytime now. It's perfectly fine. Much better than waiting just 1 year for an Epic exclusive to end. I mean, I can wait 7 years, but 1 year is too much.

 

[J1M]

So after the Steam release, the more people will buy it, and making more money to Valve. And of course the developer.

This is how Valve sells it, but a gamer wishlistig a game mentally moves it into skip and wait for a sale notification email category.
It'll sure help to sell more on Steam, but I have doubts it'll help to make more money for the develeper than D1P on Epic would.
I suspect it also encourages many people to do neither, which they don't talk about. Overall it probably doesn't affect sales that much either way.

Steam pages for games that aren't on Steam turns Steam into the single store solution. Consumer behavior will quickly go from "oh I have to install this other launcher to play", to "oh, I have to wait until the REAL release".

 

[JarlFrank]

I have six icons on the desktop

That's a lot of different launchers bro.

 

[FeelTheRads]

But if publishers want to push additional launchers on me that aren't Steam or GoG Galaxy,

A game that's already released but not out on steam is just going to get pirated, not wishlisted.

By the way, what happened with "If Epic had all the features of Steam it would be fine"? No more standards then?

Guess you gave up on that bunch of bullshit and started admitting exactly what I was saying from the start, that no matter what steamtards will be steamtards.

 

[JarlFrank]

or GoG Galaxy,

steamtards will be steamtards.

 

[Reinhardt]

"If Epic had all the features of Steam it would be fine"

Если бы у бабушки был хуй, она была бы дедушкой.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-epic-store-library-finally-has-a-list-view/

The Epic Store library finally has a list view
Steam isn't the only platform to get a library update this week.

Steam's big library overhaul entered beta earlier this week, but not to be outdone, Epic has also updated its store with a new library feature: there's a list view now.

It's not quite as comprehensive as Steam's update, though with far fewer games than Steam, the Epic Store doesn't exactly need a way to sort by tags. The new list view is pretty basic: you can sort games alphabetically or by selecting "recent," which I assume bumps games you've recently launched or purchased to the top. You can also filter out uninstalled games.

Have a peek at my library:

Exciting, isn't it? In all seriousness, though, this does make the library view much better for anyone with more than a handful of games on the Epic Store, such as anyone who has been picking up the weekly free games.

Another recent new feature is play time tracking, which can now be seen by hitting a game's options menu, and is displayed in an aggressively faint shade of grey.

Up next on the roadmap are changes to the storefront and an in-game overlay, which will at first be used to allow in-game purchases to be made without alt-tabbing. Epic is also working on 'mod support,' which sounds similar to Steam Workshop:

"We're adding the support for game modding communities. Players will be able to browse a catalog of player and developer made mods for their games. Players will be able to auto-install mods into games they own, that are managed by the Epic Games launcher or download the files separately for other games."

Further away on the roadmap are features anyone used to Steam will be familiar with, such as achievements, wishlists, and user reviews. You can see what Epic's up to on Trello.

 

[passerby]

Instead of some subtle frame, or background highlight for installed games, they have everything else dark as fuck and hard to recognize, even titles text is dark and hard to read.

Nothing really matters when you have just two dozens freebies there, but the extend of their incompetence is as depressing as this library screenshot.
They've literally went out of their way to make it worse than any other store.

 

[Metro]

steamtards will be steamtards.

This is every single FeelTheEdgelord post on Codex in a nutshell. Broken record.

 

[J_C]

They needed several months to bring this Epic Store update? XDDDDD It will be 2025 by the time they reach Steam's current featureset.

 

[Makabb]

People just don't buy games if they're not on Steam, but Steam is totally not a monopoly!!!!!!!!!!!! Bro, totally it isn't!!!!!

If people choose to buy from one place and not the other, it's not a monopoly, it means they have a better product.

 

[DalekFlay]

They needed several months to bring this Epic Store update? XDDDDD It will be 2025 by the time they reach Steam's current featureset.

"For our ten year anniversary we are adding achievements!"