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Exclusives are good

Ezekiel

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PC players want Astro Bot. I won't buy a PS5 and want to play it on my computer as well. (Before this, Astro's Playroom was the only PS5 game that interested me.) But it should stay exclusive. They should look at the small but worthwhile success of the game and make more like it. Diversify their portfolio with smaller games that can afford to stay exclusive again, so that even if a game doesn't sell well, it adds to a variety of games that players still want to buy the useless machine with expensive online access and overpriced junk controllers for.

https://store.steampowered.com/developer/playstationstudios

Putting everything on PC is just making the console irrelevant to too many people, a problem that will become worse as the years pass. Having to push a console drives the second parties and in-house studios to make better games with the backing of the company. I enjoyed The Last Guardian for all its faults and doubt that a third party like Capcom or Konami would have supported its development for that long. They'd have rushed it out the door or cancelled it. I miss Team Ico and the rest of Japan Studio. They didn't have so many big successes. They struggled in the PS3 generation and, sadly, had been underfunded for years before the closure. But having smaller teams and lower budgets allowed them to make different kinds of games without taking on so much of the risk that the 200 million dollar slop is so averse to. Again, exclusivity can drive quality. Sega became less productive and much more boring after they went third party. I know that what I'm talking about is a pipe dream for the time being. Publishers are still far too invested in the huge projects that take eight years to make. I understand the irony of mentioning The Last Guardian, whose prolonged development hell was an outlier for Japan Studio.

"But, Ezekiel, a PC port a year or two later is fine. There's no need to forever exile games to a certain generation of console."

Let's pretend that the PS5 has a nice variety of exclusive games. If we only have to wait two years for ports, if you've made it such a sure thing by porting almost all other newer releases, we're still not gonna buy the 500 dollar console. I don't know how many people I'm speaking for, but the number will grow as more games go to PC.
 

Wirdschowerdn

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They can *only* afford console exclusivity if their team sizes remain manageable, i.e. Astro Bot. But the industry is too big for that. Too many art school graduates and fat cats that need to be fed. In places such as Montreal or Cali it's a de facto jobs program, not a mere enterprise. Nobody among the big studios will scale down 'cause it's conductive to better quality.
 

POOPERSCOOPER

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I liked when there was some exclusivity, games felt "designed for" the specific console or platform. I also get the business side that games are so expensive now you kind of have to diversify. I hope this added to the conversation.
 

Ezekiel

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Shareholders disagree and they are the ones running the show.
Shortsighted and out of touch. That's why they starved and then closed Japan Studio. Their obsession with the huge games has come back to bite them, with one live service game cancelled, another (Fairgame$) that no one wants and almost nothing else on the horizon. Halfway into the generation and the PS5 still has almost no exclusives, because the slop takes so long to make and costs so much.
 

Disciple

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Platform exclusivity made sense up to the fifth or sixth generation of consoles. Not anymore.
 

Necrensha

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https://gamehistory.org/87percent/

That's a study that points to the logical point of exclusivity: the vast majority of all videogames being permanently destroyed, with no way of ever being recovered other than hoping that some guy in Russia saved a copy of them.
Entire decades of videogame history have been practically lost thanks to consoles, hell, fucking Nintendo is still fighting daily to stop people from playing their old games.
Not only should exclusives no longer be a thing, consoles themselves should stop dragging the entire industry down and go away already.
 

NecroLord

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https://gamehistory.org/87percent/

That's a study that points to the logical point of exclusivity: the vast majority of all videogames being permanently destroyed, with no way of ever being recovered other than hoping that some guy in Russia saved a copy of them.
Entire decades of videogame history have been practically lost thanks to consoles, hell, fucking Nintendo is still fighting daily to stop people from playing their old games.
Not only should exclusives no longer be a thing, consoles themselves should stop dragging the entire industry down and go away already.
Console slop has irreversibly damaged the whole gaming industry.
 

Necrensha

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Console slop has irreversibly damaged the whole gaming industry.
True, but it can always get even worse if we allow it:
-Microsoft trying to transform everything into part of the cloud, every game being subscription based instead of being bought, the console itself just being a medium through which you access a remote platform in which the actual software and hardware are stored.
-Sony patenting a system for ads in which you would have to react with code words to actually get rid of the ad(look up Sony MacDonalds patent)
-The entire fiasco with the Kinect totally not spying on every single thing you do(they are trying it again on Windows 11)
-And can't forget Nintendo re-selling the original Super Mario at max price multiple times every single generation.
 

Tehdagah

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I used to like exclusives but now I want crossprogression to be able to play the same games on different platforms.
 

Beastro

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The problem isn't even exclusivity but consoles becoming crappy PCs.

Had consoles remained with their distinct styles, like the unique differences the SNES and Genesis had that made some prefer something like Mortal Kombat for one or the other, things would be different regardless of exclusivity.
 

H. P. Lovecraft's Cat

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Had Astro since I bought my ps5. Haven't so much as opened it. Thought it was just some gay tech demo or some shit.
 

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