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Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

pippin

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Besides, them saying you can play as a female in FO4 "for the first time" will turn any sort of criticism against it into misogyny.
 

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Can you tell him to play as female to see if Bethesda has written dialog for the female protagonist or if they reused the same dialog for both genders?

Just played the intro briefly as a female character, some npc come up to the husband referring to him as 'that's her, get her!' :lol:
 
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'Fallout 4' Review: The Dangers Of Hype
International Business Times
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To be fair, I praised the sheer number of activities and quests available in "Dragon Age: Inquisition," a game similar to "Fallout 4." However, "Dragon Age" had a decently captivating plot and, more important, charismatic characters to invest you in their world, make you laugh and pull the story along. "Fallout 4" doesn't have either of those things. It's not that the game doesn't give you things to do -- it gives you far more than anybody could reasonably expect -- it's that it doesn't really supply a consistent set of reasons to want to do those things.
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FO4's plot and characters are even worse than DAI's?

:hmmm:

I'm not sure whether to take the words of a retard who praised DAI at face value or regard them as a compliment to FO4 for the same reason.



Also: a site called "International Business Times" reviewing a console video game? After that bizarre loony bin of a launch party, I shouldn't be surprised of anything - ever - but what's next - an article in Financial Times? A romance choices overview on Eurosport? The fuck kind of demented alternate dimension did I step into?
 

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Could it be a historic momen that may set a point to Bethesda downfall? A single failed project that will cripple their studio? A debacle of Dragon Age 2 scale, that set Biowhores on a path of inevitable stagnation and degeneration.
 

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Don't delude yourselves into thinking it's going to flop. It will be an immense success and you know it.
 
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Vault Dweller will you write a review of fallout 4 skyrim with guns?
I'm too busy these days. I didn't even have time to play TW3 yet. Bought the game a week ago but could only play it for an hour. We're working on a large update for Nov, so I won't have a chance to play anything before the month is over. I wanted to review Skyrim a few years back but by the time I was done with it it was too late and pointless.

Could it be a historic momen that may set a point to Bethesda downfall? A single failed project that will cripple their studio? A debacle of Dragon Age 2 scale, that set Biowhores on a path of inevitable stagnation and degeneration.
No fucking way. It will sell millions of copies in the first week and will be heralded as the best, most immersive Fallout game to-date - a game Fallout 1 should have been if Tim Cain wasn't a clueless hack.
 

pippin

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The only thing that could prevent this from being a success is an Arkham Knight-tier fiasco.
Which COULD happen with the way they will implement mods. We just need to wait and see.
 

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Fallout 4 won't be anykind of flop, in sales nor "critical" reception. Bethesda/Zenimax has put way too much money into bribing "journos" and gaming sites PR and advertisement to create shitloads of hype, and even though Fallout 4 is gonna be fucking horrible shitfest, there's no way Bethtards will ever admit it.
 

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If the quests are as linear as the leak suggests and the dialogue as terrible (two out of four choices saying the exact same thing) then there's a chance that even Bethesda's main fanbase will react negatively. The problem is it'll probably just be overlooked and brushed off as a joke, like most of Skyrim's faults were.
 

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Realistically speaking, the "worst" (obviously depends on your perspective) that is going to happen is that they will shelf the franchise when FO4 stays behind their expectations and/or is not rated good enough.
With all the hype and preorders, however, I think they will still make a lot of money from it, at most the franchise will get burned.
 

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Of course FO4 will sell well, but I could see some game journo websites doing a bit of "damning with faint praise". A few brave ones might even damn it outright for not holding up to FO:NV.

This isn't 2008 anymore, Bethesda isn't bringing back Fallout for a new audience and they don't need to be applauded for that.
 

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If the game gets a metascore below 90, which is very unlikely, the only message they'll get is that it's not streamlined, edgy and extreme enough. FO5 will be about a character that gets raped and left behind, then the story will be revenge porn with lots of betrayal, crafting, co-op and enough romance for a biodrone to get bored.
Choices will be reduced to paragon/renegade Game will also have a horde mode with cosmetic DLC from pop culture products.

They might even do most of that regardless, but a metascore of 89 will speed things up.
 

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Of course FO4 will sell well, but I could see some game journo websites doing a bit of "damning with faint praise". A few brave ones might even damn it outright for not holding up to FO:NV.

This isn't 2008 anymore, Bethesda isn't bringing back Fallout for a new audience and they don't need to be applauded for that.

That sounds about right. Not to mention that back in 2008 there weren't as many open-world games as there are now.

Although it wouldn't surprise me if there were some fans who act stupidly nostalgic about FO3 and saying it isn't as good as that.
 

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Don't underestimate game "journalists's" abilty to dogpile.
It took them less than a month to flip from OH GAWD DRAGON AGE 2 IS A MASTERPIECE OF THE CENTURY, WRITTEN BY GODS DELIERED BY DEMIGODS to "recycled environments and bad writing everywhere"
 

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If the game gets a metascore below 90, which is very unlikely, the only message they'll get is that it's not streamlined, edgy and extreme enough.

Depends on what they are criticised for. For all the (rightful) flak they receive, Bethesda has still shown quite capable at delivering a product that's relatively well-tuned to the demands of their audience. In those cases where they failed to do so, they have often tuned the feature. Usually that involved further dumbing-down, but at times it improved the gameplay (e.g. they did reduce the amount of level-scaling between Oblivion and Skyrim).
If, hypothetically speaking, they got wide-spread critique for shallow storytelling and bad dialogues, they might try to fix that. So it depends on how much dumbing-down the press and mainstream-audience will accept before being fed up with it.
 

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