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Fallout 4 Pre-Release Discussion [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Bethesda Game Studios' started by LESS T_T, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    Whatever, you can romance a female mr handy, the perfect wife.
     
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  2. Fairfax Arcane

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    If the game gets a metascore below 90, which is very unlikely, the only message they'll get is that it's not streamlined, edgy and extreme enough. FO5 will be about a character that gets raped and left behind, then the story will be revenge porn with lots of betrayal, crafting, co-op and enough romance for a biodrone to get bored.
    Choices will be reduced to paragon/renegade Game will also have a horde mode with cosmetic DLC from pop culture products.

    They might even do most of that regardless, but a metascore of 89 will speed things up.
     
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  3. Adon Arcane

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    That sounds about right. Not to mention that back in 2008 there weren't as many open-world games as there are now.

    Although it wouldn't surprise me if there were some fans who act stupidly nostalgic about FO3 and saying it isn't as good as that.
     
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  4. Space Satan Arcane

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    Don't underestimate game "journalists's" abilty to dogpile.
    It took them less than a month to flip from OH GAWD DRAGON AGE 2 IS A MASTERPIECE OF THE CENTURY, WRITTEN BY GODS DELIERED BY DEMIGODS to "recycled environments and bad writing everywhere"
     
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    I hope they get metascore of 83.
     
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  6. Gord Arcane

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    Depends on what they are criticised for. For all the (rightful) flak they receive, Bethesda has still shown quite capable at delivering a product that's relatively well-tuned to the demands of their audience. In those cases where they failed to do so, they have often tuned the feature. Usually that involved further dumbing-down, but at times it improved the gameplay (e.g. they did reduce the amount of level-scaling between Oblivion and Skyrim).
    If, hypothetically speaking, they got wide-spread critique for shallow storytelling and bad dialogues, they might try to fix that. So it depends on how much dumbing-down the press and mainstream-audience will accept before being fed up with it.
     
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  7. DeepOcean Arcane

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    If you are the kind that can shut the brain off to not be offended by complete stupidity each 10 mins, Fallout 4 won't be any worse than other popamole and you may have fun playing murder hobo with lasers or play post apocalyptic lego but when I see Fallout getting the Bethesda treatment it is like someone stuck a knife on my 15 years old me when I played the originals for the first time, I imagined at that time how a Fallout 3 or 4 would be with the technology, instead we got this stupid shit. The popamole gameplay isn't a problem, if I had 100 good cRPGs I wouldn't give this shit the time of the day but seeing Bethesda with their pathetic launch party, those guys fucked gamming in the ass, they with the other publishers, I won't give them one cent.
     
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  8. You assume fans of Fallout 4 know there was a Fallout 1 to begin with. And there's no way in hell they'll know who Tim Cain is.
     
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  9. pippin Guest

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    Back then people still trusted them, and while many people loved DA:I, there were different opinions as well.
     
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  10. Naveen Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath while prophesying. These things are herd behavior, you only need on big name saying "yes, it's an ok game, BUT" and with a bit of luck and Internet drama that may escalate into something much bigger. If then other journos see or feel its safe to jump on the bandwagon and talk about the real world for once, they probably will unless they have been seriously bribed or something.

    For some reason I feel there will be some cracks in the edifice, don't know how big though.
     
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  11. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    That's what the gaming media is for - to educate people about one man's struggle to make the first Fallout game and how he tried hard to overcome technological limitations and bring his idea to the consoles.
     
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  12. Fairfax Arcane

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    That would be glorious, but it'll be closer to 93, really.
    Several games have been criticized for shallow storytelling and bad dialog, didn't do much. Hell, DA:I was a fucking offline MMO and it got multiple GOTY awards and high scores.
    The improved gunplay will score more points than any other element in the game, not to mention the housing. Most peolpe, including journos, don't even finish all quests. All they care about in bethesda games is having a world to explore with "muh atmosphere", bunch of things to shoot, loot and feeling like the dovahkin with guns.
     
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  13. Lemming42 Arcane

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    I don't see how, after New Vegas, people won't be at least a little let down by Fo4's writing and lack of choice by comparison. Even the Fallout 3 fans who never played Fallout or Fallout 2 loved NV's story and amount of player agency over the main quest.
     
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  14. POOPERSCOOPER Prophet

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    YOU GUYS CAN'T JUDGE A GAME BEFORE IT COMES OUT, YOU HAVE TO BUY AND PLAY IT TO TRULY KNOW WHAT IT IS.
     
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  15. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    That's something I'm very curious to find out as well. I don't expect them to flop, but I expect Fallout 4 to underperform. I've written about this about a year ago, when DAI was just out:

     
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  16. tormund Arcane

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    It will be exactly the same as it was with Skyrim. Mostly 9/10, 10/10 scores, followed by articles detailing actual issues and flaws. I can just imagine for example one site giving it a perfect score, with reviewer claiming how the game is a bold and fresh step forward for the franchise (or something in that vein), and then week or two later that same site will publish large article (maybe by same author) detailing various issues and flaws game has (and that were somehow glossed over when they needed actual score that would go to Metacritic).
     
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    The simple fact that you know who that NPC is, is proof enough that you're a failure.

    I hope your PC/Xbox whatever burns when installing that shit.
     
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  18. Sankarihauta Prospernaut

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    guys. what if your ability to choose what your character says is unimportant because the NPC's dialog is not the text you get too choose anyway. just saying.
     
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  19. Lemming42 Arcane

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    That's nice. Conversely, I hope it doesn't.
     
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  20. Necroscope Arcane

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  21. Lemming42 Arcane

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    I know, but for all the people harping about Fallout 3's EMOTIONAL ENGAGEMENT when your dad blows himself up there were plenty more who appreciated NVs factions and story.
     
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  22. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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    At least on Fallout 4 it will be possible to have decent body mods.
     
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  23. Sankarihauta Prospernaut

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    It's a darkart people practice to say the worse game is better somehow. I think they do it as a challenge and because they are bored. That's how I know Fallout 4 is better than New Vegas, Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas, and the Fallout 1 demo was better than the first two fallout games combined.
     
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  24. PhantasmaNL Arcane Patron

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    you read it here first
     
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  25. Space Satan Arcane

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    /v/ raid ocould put it down to 60 or less. Even if not, bethtards will blame /v/ for low ratings
     
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