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Crap!!!

I thought chris was joking in the other thread. That is so insulting, I didn't even post there and I'm offended. I think they're just trying to pretend none of the violent fan reaction ever happened. What a total bunch of miserable, rotten losers.
 

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I sent a message to Saint P, maybe he knows whats up. Probably censorship, cause I posted there a few times, and my posts were "polite" criticisms, but almost all of the posts were negative, cept for a few uneducated schmucks. I just kept asking for the list of Fansites they claim they visited. They never replied :lol: :twisted:
 

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Bwhahahaha.

This isn't "appeasing the fans", this is [ineffective] damage control, IPLY-style. :P

edit: How many games needed PR damage control even before they hit the shelves? Can't think of any... heh.

-- Z.
 

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Daikatana needed some prerelease spin control after the infamous Romero ad.

Other than that, I can't think of any at the moment.

Despite all the initial "Aargh, SPECIAL in real time!" posts associated with Lionheart, things seem to have settled down on that front. One of the primary reasons? Eric and others actually talk about their game and respond intelligently to questions. They've convinced us that they're trying to make a decent game. If the worst thing I can say about Lionheart is that it's RT SPECIAL, and so far it is, I'll most likely buy it. (The oft-promised Fallout 3, on the other hand, better be turn-based.)

Team Chuck, on the other hand, no likuh da communication. The only person authorized to officially talk to the media or fans is apparently Chucky himself. Does he try to share anything believable about the game? No. He just butchers the setting with a straight face. As pointed out elsewhere, the most detailed response he's given is the thong "justification." Never mind the vastly different ghouls (which could be the new Hairy Deathclaw), the octogenarian bikini warriors, the Tesla Armor that makes the wearer look like a walking metal hat stand... They can't even get historical facts right! Describing "Riot Armor" as Kevlar plates makes no sense, considering DuPont claims it was invented in 1965. Alternate universe, yeah, I know, but assuming the bombs dropped in the 50s, there's no way anyone's going to be doing that kind of R&D in a vault ten years after the bombs fell. If the outdoors is completely inhospitable, no one's going to come a-shootin'. I don't even see too many synthetic fibers in Fallout aside from Vault jumpsuits. It's just as bad as the horde of relatively useless 1990s weaponry in Tactics.

I won't even bother to analyze the "bringing to a wider audience" statement, except to say that those phrases invariably presage disaster. One risks the loyal fan base for the chance of attracting casual consumers. It rarely works.

As I said in the other thread, it's probably only stubbornness that's keeping this overpriced coaster in the Fallout franchise. They've alienated enough of the public by this point that they can't publicly admit defeat without feeling humiliated. They should throw in the towel, but they won't.

Oh, and one last thing: Unless they want to make Vault-Tec a complete Illuminati ripoff, they better take out most of the PipBoy scenery. Wasn't there a passage in the Fallout manual claiming that "Vault-Man" was a trademark of Vault-Tec?
 

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chrisbeddoes said:
CENSORSHIP

The forums are not down.

Infact, they're busy with many supportive fans who are anticipating the release.

You love the trailer.

The trailer fills you with raw urges to pre order FO:BoS.

The woman in the thong turns you on. She fits perfectly into the Fallous setting.

You crave real time action.

The new BOS logo is superior to the old.

V is for Victory, chocolate rations are going up, big brother is watching.
 

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They can't even get historical facts right! Describing "Riot Armor" as Kevlar plates makes no sense, considering DuPont claims it was invented in 1965. Alternate universe, yeah, I know, but assuming the bombs dropped in the 50s, there's no way anyone's going to be doing that kind of R&D in a vault ten years after the bombs fell.

The bombs dropped a ways after Fallout's 1950s. That being said, Fallout would use something else, something more into a pulp element befitting sci-fi pulp written in the 40's-50's, than kevlar.

Yet another fine example of how Chuck keeps going with the lies. It fits into Fallout's history and setting, my ass.
 

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The bombs drop much later than the 1950's. It's 1950's sci-fi, not 1950's pop culture it self. It's what people back then thought the future would be. They didn't know of kevlar, so kevlar wasn't part of their future visions.

I mean combat armor probably has something resembling kevlar, but it's described as layers of polymers and some generic blabla to indicate what it is. Using names invented after the 50's doesn't fit, even though the inventions might have taken place. (research into kevlar-like material being started as early as the 1930's)

But then, the graphics of Fobos are even worse than the text explaining them.
From the look of it, you can put on the armor to look like a fucking power ranger, a CT from Clownterstrike, A guy from a Japanese anime in some exo-suit thingy and a gay homosexual Rugby player. As a female you have the option of tight panties, thongs and thongs.
 

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A gay homosexual? Oh no! That's twice as homophobic!

Psilon, the bombs dropped in 2077, which is a ways off from 1950.
 

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Yup. My mistake regarding dates, but MF got my point. Culturally it makes about as much sense to talk about Kevlar in Fallout as it would to make, say, reality TV Easter eggs.
 

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SPOILER F.O.B.O.S STORY !!

The female hero goes to the brotherhood looking for a job with the cloths as seen in the trailer .

Hmm hi I am new here and i want to become female agent for the brotherhood .


Brotherhood hmmm yea come here YEA YEA !!!!! >>>>

After 2 days ----


Brotherhood Oh SĂ‚ÂŁ%Ă‚ÂŁ%T . We cannot stand it any more .


Ok now go to mission XXXXX and please do not come back unless you find the golden thong of everlasting life !!!!!!


Trainee !!! What is that ????????

Brotherhood !!! It is part of the mission to find out !!!!! GO NOW !!!! GO TRAINEE>

After female agent leave half of the male brotherhood become gays !!!

That is the reson for the diminishing influence of the Brotherhood in Fallout 2 !!!!!

End of F.O.B.O.S SPOILER!

EDIT

The female recruit here !!!!

http://www.duckandcover.net/fobos/babes3.jpg

http://www.duckandcover.net/fobos/thong_girl2.jpg

from
http://www.duckandcover.net/

/ediot !!!!!!
 

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Psilon said:
Team Chuck, on the other hand, no likuh da communication. The only person authorized to officially talk to the media or fans is apparently Chucky himself. Does he try to share anything believable about the game? No. He just butchers the setting with a straight face. As pointed out elsewhere, the most detailed response he's given is the thong "justification." Never mind the vastly different ghouls (which could be the new Hairy Deathclaw), the octogenarian bikini warriors, the Tesla Armor that makes the wearer look like a walking metal hat stand... They can't even get historical facts right!

I think the best screw up yet is that trailer. The part where the narrator says that she was born just after the bombs dropped, but Fallout Enforcer takes place after Fallout.. And Fallout is roughly 80 years after the bombs dropped.

Describing "Riot Armor" as Kevlar plates makes no sense, considering DuPont claims it was invented in 1965. Alternate universe, yeah, I know, but assuming the bombs dropped in the 50s, there's no way anyone's going to be doing that kind of R&D in a vault ten years after the bombs fell. If the outdoors is completely inhospitable, no one's going to come a-shootin'. I don't even see too many synthetic fibers in Fallout aside from Vault jumpsuits. It's just as bad as the horde of relatively useless 1990s weaponry in Tactics.

Actually, Combat Armor is riot armor. In the Fallout manual, it talks about how Combat Armor is used by both police forces and the military.. So what the hell is "riot armor" doing in the list of armors?

And Combat Armor is polymer based, but it's not kevlar. Kevlar really has no place in Fallout at all since the Fallout universe has it's own version of the stuff. This is really on par to adding real world weapons to Fallout when they have no place in the game - it's an alternative universe.

I won't even bother to analyze the "bringing to a wider audience" statement, except to say that those phrases invariably presage disaster. One risks the loyal fan base for the chance of attracting casual consumers. It rarely works.

Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 sold a hell of a lot better than BG: DA. Think about it like this.. What if the majority of those BG: DA sales were from Baldur's Gate fans? If that's the case, and they're expecting Fallout Enforcer to sell as well as BG: DA did, they're going to be in for a huge shock.

As I said in the other thread, it's probably only stubbornness that's keeping this overpriced coaster in the Fallout franchise. They've alienated enough of the public by this point that they can't publicly admit defeat without feeling humiliated. They should throw in the towel, but they won't.

It wouldn't shock me if Vivendi didn't toss in the towel for them, though. Vivendi likes to advertise the shit out of games, but every time Fallout Enforcer gets pimpage, it results in a mass of negativity because this game is not only not that interesting, but it defiles a classic. Many people are sick of publishers pulling things like that. Many people want Fallout 3. Substituting this crap for Fallout 3 is just pissing people off, both casual and hardcore fan alike.

If Vivendi starts to figure out that they can't advertise a game without the public getting hostile about it, they might blink. After all, Vivendi gets profits from the sales of Interplay games because they distribute them. Vivendi isn't in good shape, so I doubt Vivendi would like to help take a loss with Interplay on this.

Oh, and one last thing: Unless they want to make Vault-Tec a complete Illuminati ripoff, they better take out most of the PipBoy scenery. Wasn't there a passage in the Fallout manual claiming that "Vault-Man" was a trademark of Vault-Tec?

Yeah, it's their trademark. The whole Vault-Tec sekret lair complete with FEV research facility really, really shits me. I think this is the stupidest plot device ever constructed.
 

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Mexican male gay robots in thongs with large breasts and FEV mutation. I mean why can't nonliving things mutate? It should be possile in Fobos, a game that really pushes limits.
 

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Rosh said:
The bombs dropped a ways after Fallout's 1950s. That being said, Fallout would use something else, something more into a pulp element befitting sci-fi pulp written in the 40's-50's, than kevlar.

Hehe - Combat Armour should be made of Bakelite - is that 50's enough?
 

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Amazingly, even PC Gamer was critical of this travesty. I only perused the magazine in-store, but see the RPG column in the current issue.
 

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Psilon said:
Amazingly, even PC Gamer was critical of this travesty. I only perused the magazine in-store, but see the RPG column in the current issue.

PCGamer said:
Finally, a wrod about what has to be the biggest RPG disappointment so far for 2003: Interplay's announcement of a console-only Fallout game. To have Interplay finally make some noise again with this excellent franchise, and have theat news come in the form of a "darkly humorous thrid-person action/adventure" called Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel - for Xbox and PlayStation2 owners only - is a bit of a slap in the face for loyal fans of the PC series.
My moles are still diggin', but there's still no word of a new Fallout RPG in the works for PC. In the meantime, keep those fingers crossed, and StarCraft fans can at least telll you that you're not alone in your mistery.

-Steve Klett, alternatelives@pcgamer.com
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Psilon said:
Amazingly, even PC Gamer was critical of this travesty. I only perused the magazine in-store, but see the RPG column in the current issue.

With things like this, it's basically eating away at the idea that only the upper, vicious, evil, hardcore Fallout fans are the ones against this title. Looks like even a casual gaming mag like PC Gamer isn't really thrilled either.
 

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Saint_Proverbius said:
With things like this, it's basically eating away at the idea that only the upper, vicious, evil, hardcore Fallout fans are the ones against this title. Looks like even a casual gaming mag like PC Gamer isn't really thrilled either.

What I want to see is what POS console rags like Gamepro and PSM have to say.

If they say anything at all (probably couldn't care less) then I"m sure they woudln't speak to highly of it. Just another medicore title that just happens to have a great name attached to it.
 

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hey

If it sells bad people will probably blame it on the Fallout fans, and we will go down in the books as the badasses. We'll be described as once peaceful monkeys who turned into Guerillas with sharp teeth who eat babies.
 

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