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Front Page Layout: Old vs New (Poll)

Which design and layout is better?


  • Total voters
    65

Narushima

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Again, the tiny vocal minority are people like you who prefer the current layout. About half of those polled prefer something more similar to what we had and about half don't care either way.
The tiny vocal minority... You're the most vocal in this whole subforum.

I initially wasn't on board with the redesign, but it was improved, and now I think it's perfectly fine. It's completely pointless to want a perfect recreation on the old style just because you're used to it. You essentially have no argument other than "it looked like that, so make it the same."
 

Lady Error

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It's completely pointless to want a perfect recreation on the old style just because you're used to it. You essentially have no argument other than "it looked like that, so make it the same."
The argument is that it had a better look and feel which many people liked, almost half of those in this poll.

And it does not even have to be a perfect recreation, as I've already said:

It does not have to be a "1:1 exact copy". What we disagree on is whether enough steps towards more of a similar look and feel of the forum as before have been taken. I think that most of the forum is fine now, but the look and feel of the main page can still be improved. You said just as much as well, except maybe you have other ideas on what this improvement should look like.
Even Taluntain agrees that the front page still needs some improvements.
 

Urthor

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Old is MUCH better. You don't need the "number of posts" part, and the fonts are much nicer.

Tweak the font sizes on the old.
 

Taluntain

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Even @Taluntain agrees that the front page still needs some improvements.
Those improvements that I mentioned have largely been made now. Any further regressions can be applied to the retro Small Fonts styles as I expect that the users of those styles will appreciate them.

You don't need the "number of posts" part, and the fonts are much nicer.
The font size on the Small Fonts style is identical as it was on XF1. Pick it from the style chooser at the bottom of the page.
 

Urthor

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Even @Taluntain agrees that the front page still needs some improvements.
Those improvements that I mentioned have largely been made now. Any further regressions can be applied to the retro Small Fonts styles as I expect that the users of those styles will appreciate them.

You don't need the "number of posts" part, and the fonts are much nicer.
The font size on the Small Fonts style is identical as it was on XF1. Pick it from the style chooser at the bottom of the page.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/01/default-settings-change-phones-computers

"I change the default settings on my computer" is a foolproof strategy to diagnose autism.

Default settings have to be perfect, the first time.
 

Lady Error

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That's exactly the point, they are right for most users, as evidenced by Lady Error's own poll. It's Lady Error and a few other users who prefer the retro look, and we're enabling that.
Almost half of those polled = “a few users“. At least you are no longer claiming that alts will skew the poll.
 

Lady Error

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You know full well that there are maybe 100-200 active members currently.

If you want to ignore what potentially up to half of your users want, then that is your choice.
 

DarkUnderlord

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I can make it look exactly as it did before the move to XF2 as long as someone from the staff wants it to. But the circumstances aren't clear enough for me to act on my own initiative.
DarkUnderlord, there seems to be a clear preference among the users to make the front page look more like it was before. Admittedly, just as many do not care either way, but only a small minority actually likes the current front page layout.
Modders will fix it.
 

Twiglard

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If you want to ignore what potentially up to half of your users want, then that is your choice.
But this can't be about the main page. You already know where to click.
 

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