1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

Review Geneforge Review

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Saint_Proverbius, Oct 19, 2002.

  1. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    • Brofist Brofist x 2
    • Participation Award Participation Award x 1
    ^ Top  
  2. Anonymous Guest

    Anonymous
    Um, that's how melee works. You shouldn't be able to run up and smack the guy with a sword and then run away so he can't retaliate next round.
     
    ^ Top  
  3. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    That would depend on how fast you are, wouldn't it? If you're faster than the other person, you should be able to zip in there, make a swipe at the bad guy, then back up.

    Basically, this system is geared for the BRUTE FORCE FIGHTER and doesn't allow for a FAST, FINESSE FIGHTER who has to rely on hit and run tactics because he probably doesn't have the Strength and Endurance of the typical thug.
     
    ^ Top  
  4. Jed Cipher

    Jed
    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2002
    Messages:
    3,287
    Location:
    Tech Bro Hell
    I'm only about three hours into this game, but already I care many times more about it, my character, and my character's creation than I did at the end of NWN. I don't seek to knock NWN too harshly, though I agree wholeheartedly with what St Prov said in his review, but I would like to say how much greater a game is Geneforge. It hurts my heart to know it will never get the wide attention and appreciation it deserves.
     
    ^ Top  
  5. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    I actually cared about my creations in Geneforge more than I did about my henchman in NWN as well. I got a real attachment going on between them and myself. I made them, I boosted their abilities, I named them, and so on. I knew they were mainly grunts to do my bidding, but I never liked it when one of them got overwelmed and died.

    With NWN when a henchman died, it was just, "Eh, back to town to resurrect the moron."

    And yes, it is a shame that Spiderweb's games don't get all the recognition they should.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  6. Constipated Craprunner Erudite

    Constipated Craprunner
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,256
    Location:
    Chicago. And damn anyone who is not the same.
    Huh.
    Anyone have any ideas or estimates as to how many people have downloaded it? I mean, with such a glamerous review by PCGamer, I would think (read hope) that it has sold enough to finance Spiderweb's future endevours.
    Also, yeah, I admit the game rocks.
     
    ^ Top  
  7. Spazmo Erudite

    Spazmo
    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2002
    Messages:
    5,752
    Location:
    Monkey Island
    Yes, but a game that's only avaiblible via a download from the maker's site is obviously going to sell less then a game anyone can go into a store and buy with a box, especially considering those people without high-speed connections and credit cards.
     
    ^ Top  
  8. Constipated Craprunner Erudite

    Constipated Craprunner
    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2002
    Messages:
    1,256
    Location:
    Chicago. And damn anyone who is not the same.
    Obviously.
    That is also an interesting question- would it have made more money if it had been boxed?
     
    ^ Top  
  9. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    I'm not sure if a retailer would even accept it. Spiderweb gets most of it's people by word of mouth and from USENET discussions.
     
    ^ Top  
  10. Anonymous Guest

    Anonymous
    Love it?

    I loved Geneforge, and I found almost nothing wrong besides a few pathing problems, the fact that you don't get any experience for killing a lowly monster, and you lose 1-2 experience points for every creation you have (sucks, doesn't it? Kill something for 5 points, you have four creations, that leaves you with 1 point!). I can't wait for # II. It isn't easy to come up with a completely new idea and character generation system in one game. The mind boggles at how he creates such great games. :D
     
    ^ Top  
  11. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    Re: Love it?

    I've hated that style system since I betatested Everquest. I was level 6 or so, so I couldn't get experience for killing lowly orcs, but I got ganged by them and killed.

    Reaper turrets in Geneforge did the same thing to me at Control 3, I think it was. No experience value for them, but I'll be damned if I wasn't murdered by 5 of them in this one area.
     
    ^ Top  
  12. ahunting Novice

    ahunting
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2003
    Messages:
    1
    Re: Love it?

    I just want to agree whole heartedly. I think Geneforge is great, it makes me very happy that a site like this exists. It can't be said enough, the creativity Jeff puts into his games is what makes them worth playing. :D
     
    ^ Top  
  13. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    I totally agree. A lot of the mechanics in Jeff's games are simple. He doesn't really try to throw in the kitchen sink in his games. However, what he does with a setting is what makes his games so fantastic.

    Geneforge may have incredibly simple graphics, a slimmed down character system, and so on, but the presentation of everything is simply stunning.
     
    ^ Top  
  14. Rayt Liturgist

    Rayt
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2002
    Messages:
    192
    Location:
    Swingin' Groningen
    Is there a way to get this game other then by paying by creditcard ? I don't have one...
     
    ^ Top  
  15. Saint_Proverbius Arcane Patron

    Saint_Proverbius
    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    11,190
    Location:
    Behind you.
    ^ Top  
  16. Rayt Liturgist

    Rayt
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2002
    Messages:
    192
    Location:
    Swingin' Groningen
    Hmm, only 25 bucks including shipping costs to Holland? No wonder the guy isn't a millionaire ;)

    Anyway, time to go to the bank tomorrow to get some US dollars.
     
    ^ Top  
  17. Walks with the Snails Erudite

    Walks with the Snails
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,443
    Location:
    The Lone Star State
    All you need is the registration code. He'll email it to you and not mail anything to save shipping if you want.
     
    ^ Top  
  18. LCJr. Erudite

    LCJr.
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2003
    Messages:
    2,469
    Besides being impressed by the game I really liked the improvements in the interface. It's lot more mousedriven than the rest of his games. The larger graphics were nice too. I actually surprised when I found out Avernum 3 was released after this game as its more like the older ones. I hope he uses the Geneforge interface style in some of his future games.

    As for that "fast, finesse fighter" thing that seems to me like exploiting the turn based system. That kind of stuff made the Temple of Trials in FO2 a boring chore rather than a challenge. Smack radscorp. Run away from radscorp. Let radscorp follow and repeat ad nauseum without your opponent ever having a chance to retaliate. If there's any change to combat system I'd like to see it would the addition of an overwatch mode.
     
    ^ Top  
  19. camon104 Novice

    camon104
    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    2
    Location:
    Look Behind U
    I only have the demo version of Geneforge right now but im buying the game soon. I cant wait til Geneforge 2 comes out. I barely played this game 4 30 min and i instantly fell in love with it. O sure it had classic graphics but it is the best RPG ever made in my opinion.
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
    ^ Top  
  20. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

    Volourn
    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2003
    Messages:
    21,999
    I'm buying this along with the Avernum Trilogy at the end of the month, most likely. 8)
     
    • incline incline x 1
    ^ Top  
  21. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane In My Safe Space

    Awor Szurkrarz
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009
    Messages:
    21,903
    Codex 2012
    Wow, it's fascinating to see a bunch of Codexers liking a new game. Weird times.
     
    ^ Top  
  22. Archibald Arcane

    Archibald
    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Messages:
    7,197
    Non retarded Volourn post, omg.
     
    • WTF am I reading WTF am I reading x 1
    ^ Top  
  23. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane In My Safe Space

    Awor Szurkrarz
    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2009
    Messages:
    21,903
    Codex 2012
    Yeah, that too. It's almost like everyone was... happy.
     
    ^ Top  
  24. commie The Last Marxist Patron

    commie
    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,865,183
    Location:
    Where one can weep in peace
    Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
    What a difference 7 years makes....
     
    • Shit Shit x 1
    ^ Top  

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.