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I made a thread in GG for more general recommendations, but figured you people might know more about Japcrap.

A guy I know owed me some money. He had recently bought a PS3 for his nephew, only to be told 'FUK U UNKUL I WANT PS4 I HATE YOU'. Now I have a pretty much untouched (he played maybe 15 minutes of Last of Us and Destiny before deciding he sucks at video games) PS3. If I hate it, looking at used console prices I can just sell it and make way more than the guy owed me, but I decided to give it a chance.

Since I'm the sort of intelligent consumer who somehow ended up with 1582 games on Steam that I will never ever play, I immediately went and bought a ton of games, some many of which are probably shit (no clue why I got the GOWs when people I trust have said they're pretty much 'baby's first action game'). However now I've slowed down and decided to get some Codex recommendations instead of buying everything that moves.

Games I already got:
Bayonetta
Demon's Souls
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Drakengard 3
Destiny
Folklore
God of War 1-3
Heavenly Sword
Ico + Shadow of the Colossus Collection
Infamous 1-2
Killzone 1-3
The Last of Us
Metal Gear Solid 4
Nier
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Bitch
Ratchet and Clank Future 1-2
Resistance 1-3
Uncharted 1-3
Yakuza 3-4

Are there any other games on the PS3 worth owning? Games that have a PC release I'd prefer to just have the PC version of, unless for some reason it's way inferior (I have a controller), so I guess I'm focusing on console-only games. If they're multiplayer-only I have pretty much 0 interest, since online multi is something I do on PC, and gaming is a mostly solitary hobby for me as I prefer doing other stuff with friends/gf/whoever in person.

Are there any purchase-worthy Japanese games on PS3 that I don't have? I speak the language and can read semi-adequately, so even lack of TL isn't a huge issue provided the game isn't region locked. Not just asking about JRPGs, but jap games in general (in fact the RPGs are probably what I'd be most hesitant to get, given that I've never actually played a JRPG other than Hatoful Boyfriend and one chapter of Agarest 1 I slogged through for the joint LP with RK).

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On consoles I mostly play J-RPG, so i won't help with other games. I would recommend :
- Resonance of fate (sci-fi with a weird and pleasant gunporn battle system, not the most japanese J-RPG, or at least the art is not so japanese)
- Tales of Vesperia (classic fantasy, the story is classic but the characters are sometimes surprisingly cool, Arena real time battles)

Not as good, but you can at least take a quick look at :
- Enchanted arms (typical J-RPG with monster collection, the story and the characters are "roller coaster", oh and it's from From Software)
- Eternal sonata (classic fantasy, really childish but not completely unpleasant)
- Star ocean 4 : the last hope (classic space opera, Arena real time battles, but the dialogs are mostly naive as hell)
 

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Shadorwun: Hong Kong
- Resonance of fate (sci-fi)
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steampunk =/= sci-fi
 

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Imabikisou - Sound novel, probably not much game to it, but I found it a rather pleasant horror experience. Similar to stuff like Kamaitachi no Yoru.

Deception IV: Blood Ties - If you like the Deception trap-laying series involving genocidal princesses and cheesily written victims, this is for you. Gameplay is an interesting break from the usual fare.

Catherine - Quirky Atlus puzzle platformer with multiple endings and a refreshing approach to what wimmen want.

Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters - LARP Black Cat. +MEnglish version coming out soon.

Yakuza Kenzan - Superior spin-off of the Yakuza series, with 100% more Japan.
 

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Do NOT get Deception IV: There's an updated rerelease coming out.

Atelier Rorona Plus, then the rest of the Atelier series
Vanquish
Dragon's Crown
 

Damned Registrations

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My suggestion: Before you buy any more shit or even read recomendations, play the best games in that list (I can heartily endorse Demons' Souls, Shadow of the Colossus and Dragon's Dogma) then you'll have a better idea of what you like and what people are recommending you and if their opinion is shit.

Then buy Dragon's Crown because it's awesome.

Whatever you do, don't hook it up to the interwebs and start buying games from the PS store. There are like a bajillion PS2/3 games on there and you'll go barkupt.
 

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Lund won't go bankrupt even if he gets a copy of every PS2 title in existence. +M
 

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Dragon's Crown is a visually polluted hell and you probably will rage a lot.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
I made a thread in GG for more general recommendations, but figured you people might know more about Japcrap.

A guy I know owed me some money. He had recently bought a PS3 for his nephew, only to be told 'FUK U UNKUL I WANT PS4 I HATE YOU'. Now I have a pretty much untouched (he played maybe 15 minutes of Last of Us and Destiny before deciding he sucks at video games) PS3. If I hate it, looking at used console prices I can just sell it and make way more than the guy owed me, but I decided to give it a chance.

Since I'm the sort of intelligent consumer who somehow ended up with 1582 games on Steam that I will never ever play, I immediately went and bought a ton of games, some many of which are probably shit (no clue why I got the GOWs when people I trust have said they're pretty much 'baby's first action game'). However now I've slowed down and decided to get some Codex recommendations instead of buying everything that moves.

Games I already got:
Bayonetta
Demon's Souls
Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
Drakengard 3
Destiny
Folklore
God of War 1-3
Heavenly Sword
Ico + Shadow of the Colossus Collection
Infamous 1-2
Killzone 1-3
The Last of Us
Metal Gear Solid 4
Nier
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Bitch
Ratchet and Clank Future 1-2
Resistance 1-3
Uncharted 1-3
Yakuza 3-4

Are there any other games on the PS3 worth owning? Games that have a PC release I'd prefer to just have the PC version of, unless for some reason it's way inferior (I have a controller), so I guess I'm focusing on console-only games. If they're multiplayer-only I have pretty much 0 interest, since online multi is something I do on PC, and gaming is a mostly solitary hobby for me as I prefer doing other stuff with friends/gf/whoever in person.

Are there any purchase-worthy Japanese games on PS3 that I don't have? I speak the language and can read semi-adequately, so even lack of TL isn't a huge issue provided the game isn't region locked. Not just asking about JRPGs, but jap games in general (in fact the RPGs are probably what I'd be most hesitant to get, given that I've never actually played a JRPG other than Hatoful Boyfriend and one chapter of Agarest 1 I slogged through for the joint LP with RK).

domo arigato codex weebfaggos*

*TL Note: This means thank you codex weeaboo trash in glorious nipponese
Yakuza 5 is coming out this summer, so you have to get that. (It's digital only, but I don't give a fuck and neither will you. Because I say so.)
I see no Vanquish on that list and I have to say that's completely unacceptable. Best tps on the system.

I am guessing that you already own Valkyria Chronicles and Binary Domain because they got PC releases. If not, buy both.

Tales of Graces f has a great battle system and the way items and character advancement works is great. I do have to warn you that the desudesu is strong in this one. Your brain might not be able to handle all of it.

There are a few digital Ratchet games woth giving a shot. Most of them got a physical release in Europe.

inFAMOUS: Festival of Blood was fun.

If you don't mind playing games in co-op, you should buy LittleBigPlanet 1-3. I play these in local co-op and the fights we usually have are classic and we joke about them months after. Lots of community levels.

ModNation Racing is also fun but only if you intend to play with friends. Lots of community levels.

If you speak Japanese, buy Tales of Zestiria and play the Legend of Heroes games. As far as I know, none of these are region locked.

I'd also like to recommend Okami HD. Game looks fucking dope and is one of the best remasters I have played.

If you don't mind 3D platforming games, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time is a fun game.

Dragon's Crown is a solid pick if you like beat em' ups. There are items to collect and you gain levels and such.

There's more, but I think this is enough for now.
 

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Can the PS3 play PS2 games? I don't know anything about PS3 games but there are a lot of PS2 games, ones a non-JRPG fan would like, that are really good.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Can the PS3 play PS2 games? I don't know anything about PS3 games but there are a lot of PS2 games, ones a non-JRPG fan would like, that are really good.
Newer models don't. Also, you can buy PS2 games and emulate them on PC if you want. I've put my PS2 in storage and just have all games on my HDD.
 
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You can download PS2 games off of the playstation store.

If we're letting PS2 games in, play Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. It's a very good RPG and one of the most atmospheric games you'll ever play.
 

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Serpent in the Staglands Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Shadorwun: Hong Kong
If you didn't play PS2 games. Grab the MGS HD collection.

Can the PS3 play PS2 games? I don't know anything about PS3 games but there are a lot of PS2 games, ones a non-JRPG fan would like, that are really good.
The first hardware revisions could, but probably not the one lund got. Many PS2 games are for sale on the e-store though.
 

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Emulated PS2 stuff looks so much better than anything looked on real PS2

A lot of popular games even have functional widescreen mods
 

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You forgot about another most important thing in emulation - access to game that can't be bought anymore or for some ridicilous price. But why we talk about emulation (free stuff!) with someone constantly cluging his steam backlog? I see no point...
 

eric__s

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Emulated PS2 stuff looks so much better than anything looked on real PS2

A lot of popular games even have functional widescreen mods
Yeah, I finally got my PS2 emulator working yesterday. It's unbelievable, these games look amazing. The only thing holding back the PS2 was its native resolution.
 
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Guyz what are system requiements to run PCSX2 with all bells and whistles? I'm playing mostly under PS2 level of quality due to Core 2 Duo :/
 

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Guyz what are system requiements to run PCSX2 with all bells and whistles? I'm playing mostly under PS2 level of quality due to Core 2 Duo :/
The bells and whistles are going to be more GPU limited than CPU. I think if you can run the game at full speed at all, you can pretty much turn everything up and the CPU will be fine.
 

LundB

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Thanks bros.
Catherine - Quirky Atlus puzzle platformer with multiple endings and a refreshing approach to what wimmen want.
Will probably get.

Yakuza Kenzan - Superior spin-off of the Yakuza series, with 100% more Japan.
Almost certainly getting this. Is Ishin any good too?

Do NOT get Deception IV: There's an updated rerelease coming out.

Atelier Rorona Plus, then the rest of the Atelier series
Vanquish
Dragon's Crown
Will probably get Vanquish and Dragon's Crown. Vanquish because I've played it before and it's fucking good, worth owning, and Dragon's Crown because Menckenstein wants to co-op. The Atelier stuff I'll probably get one cheap at some point to see if I enjoy whatever type of gameplay it is, then make a decision on the rest.

Yakuza 5 is coming out this summer, so you have to get that. (It's digital only, but I don't give a fuck and neither will you. Because I say so.)
Fuck digital distribution linked to anything but a PC. I'll just get the jap version with an actual disc.

I'd also like to recommend Okami HD. Game looks fucking dope and is one of the best remasters I have played.
I've always been suspicious of Okami and the fapping it gets from the gaming media. Is it genuinely a good game or does it fall more in line with wannabe-artsy indie fare that the games media loves so very much these days, and why is this the case?

Whatever you do, don't hook it up to the interwebs and start buying games from the PS store. There are like a bajillion PS2/3 games on there and you'll go barkupt.
Wouldn't go bankrupt, but planning to avoid anyway since I hate the idea of digital distribution tied to a console with a finite lifespan. Would rather just emulate the PS2 stuff on PC.

Can the PS3 play PS2 games? I don't know anything about PS3 games but there are a lot of PS2 games, ones a non-JRPG fan would like, that are really good.
It can't, but fuckit, if I'm going full consoletard I might as well go FULL consoletard. I've never really played console games until now (never owned one except for a playstation 1 I barely touched as a kid), only ones I ever played on PS2 were DMC games and one of the first two Way of the Samurai games I think. If you know good ones, let me know. I've got a controller and a computer that's almost certainly capable of emulation.

If you didn't play PS2 games. Grab the MGS HD collection.
I've held off on the HD collection games largely because I didn't know if they'd be better or worse than just using an emulator on PC. I heard the Silent Hill HD collection fucks up the fog and some other stuff (better to just play original), and since I already have DMC3 on PC and have 0 interest in ever playing DMC2 again the DMC hd collection hardly seems worth it. Is the MGS collection a better or worse option than just playing on an emulator?
 

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If you didn't play PS2 games. Grab the MGS HD collection.
I've held off on the HD collection games largely because I didn't know if they'd be better or worse than just using an emulator on PC. I heard the Silent Hill HD collection fucks up the fog and some other stuff (better to just play original), and since I already have DMC3 on PC and have 0 interest in ever playing DMC2 again the DMC hd collection hardly seems worth it. Is the MGS collection a better or worse option than just playing on an emulator?
MGS2 is slightly better because they re-did the cinematics to fill the screen (they were originally letterboxed for a 4:3 tv).

MGS3 is probably slightly worse since it's 720p instead of whatever you can pump the emulator too. Though you are guaranteed to have the pressure sensitivity working on PS3, and no fuss set up.

MGS: PW I'm not sure about. They might have put in some work to improve it from PSP, I sort of doubt it though.
 
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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
LundB It's basically a Zelda style game with combat that I would compare to Devil May Cry 1. The game does look good and I am a fan of the soundtrack. Biggest flaws are easily the annoying faux language thing they have going on. made my ears bleed and there is no way to skip cut scenes on your first run. As you play, you will gain new weapons and abilities. New abilities makes it possible to visit new areas that you could not reach before. There are three types of weapons:

Reflectors
The first class of Divine Instrument obtained in the beginnings of both games. They can only be used for a close-range attack when set as the main weapon and act as a shield to block attacks when when used as a subbed. The Reflector is an excellent all-around weapon and a perfect choice for beginners to Ōkami.

Rosaries
The second class of Divine Instrument obtained (the last in Ōkamiden). They can be used for a long-range fast-striking attack when set as the main weapon and can be fired like bullets when subbed. With lower attack power than other Divine Instruments, the Rosary takes a little more effort to master and is generally used to build Godhood in Ōkami. It should be noted that in Ōkamiden the Rosary attacks less rapidly than in the former game.

Glaives
The last class of Divine Instrument obtained (the second in Ōkamiden). These launch a charged attack which can be devastatingly powerful when fully-charged if equipped as the main weapon. When subbed, it can perform a powerful wide-spread strike which can also be charged. Glaives are the generally the most difficult Divine Instruments to master with the hardest timing involved and slow attacks, but are a favorite for many veterans to Ōkami. Glaives in Ōkamiden has less charge time than those in the predecessor game.

Bosses are fun but there are some encounters that are WTF moments in a bad way, but I'd say that all bosses are fun the first time you encounter them. One problem though, is that the game might overstay its welcome. This really differs from player to player. Will I enjoyed the game a lot, I was not sad when the game ended.
 

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LundB It's basically a Zelda style game with combat that I would compare to Devil May Cry 1.
See, that sounds appealing. Somehow whenever I've seen it mentioned, people have just gone on and on about OMG SO ART OMG SO BEAUTY OMG WOLF PAINTING, and I was given the sense that it was some sort of casual relaxing game about a wolf painting shit. Didn't even know it had actual combat until now.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
LundB It's basically a Zelda style game with combat that I would compare to Devil May Cry 1.
See, that sounds appealing. Somehow whenever I've seen it mentioned, people have just gone on and on about OMG SO ART OMG SO BEAUTY OMG WOLF PAINTING, and I was given the sense that it was some sort of casual relaxing game about a wolf painting shit. Didn't even know it had actual combat until now.
It is a pretty game, and I wish there'd be a few more games but like you, I have never been interested in the whole "games are art!!!" discussion. I did recommend the PS3 remaster because the game looks great, better than the PS2 version. I think it is because of the style that the upressing to HD benefits the game. I do admit that I don't think combat is amazing, but I guess it works and boss fights were fun, imo.

I hate it when one tries to find impressions about something and you don't get what you are looking for. We were discussing the game in another thread. I will dig it up and edit this post.

Edit: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/bros-sell-me-on-okami.96833/#post-3730474
 

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If you are trying to decide on any of the Yakuza games I would recommend watching this video.

Also Ishin is at 39:17
 

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