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Vapourware Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

AdamReith

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Finally, some good news.
 

polo

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What!???? I never expected this, im flabbergasted.
Said no one.
 

SerratedBiz

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Only their games development went down, Stadia as a product and concept will continue to be pushed and sold. Beware the rise of games as a service, men.
 

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taxalot hello. Your prediction about Stadia being the next big thing -- while calling us luddites -- didn't age well, did it?
 

Catacombs

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Google is so trash, constantly starting new projects and then running them into the ground.
Into the trash it goes. Though, were some good products in there. But, Google being Google, the moment a project hits peak usefulness for most of its users, the company must shut it down.
 

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taxalot hello. Your prediction about Stadia being the next big thing -- while calling us luddites -- didn't age well, did it?
This one is far more dangerous:
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-pass-now-has-over-18-million-subscribers
Xbox Game Pass over 18 million subscribers, Xbox Live passes 100 million

Xbox Game Pass has now hit 18 million subscribers, stated Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, speaking on its FY21 Q2 earnings call. Microsoft's Xbox Live gaming network also hits a new milestone, with over 100 million monthly active users (MAUs) across all platforms.

Microsoft outlined its second-quarter financials on Tuesday, including continued success for its Xbox brand, with gaming revenue increasing 51% year-over-year. High demand for its latest gaming consoles, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, saw hardware revenue almost double with 86% growth. Xbox content and services also surged 40%, attributed to its games and subscriptions, including Xbox Game Pass.

It's the third time Microsoft has talked numbers around Xbox Game Pass, its Netflix-style gaming subscription at the heart of its content and services portfolio. It almost doubles the first reported Xbox Game Pass back figures from its FY20 Q3 earnings, previously surpassing 10 million users across Xbox and PC. It also reported 90 million Xbox Live MAUs back in April, which represents all users, rather than exclusively paying Xbox Live Gold subscribers.
 

vibehunter

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taxalot hello. Your prediction about Stadia being the next big thing -- while calling us luddites -- didn't age well, did it?
This one is far more dangerous:
https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-pass-now-has-over-18-million-subscribers
Xbox Game Pass over 18 million subscribers, Xbox Live passes 100 million

Xbox Game Pass has now hit 18 million subscribers, stated Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, speaking on its FY21 Q2 earnings call. Microsoft's Xbox Live gaming network also hits a new milestone, with over 100 million monthly active users (MAUs) across all platforms.

Microsoft outlined its second-quarter financials on Tuesday, including continued success for its Xbox brand, with gaming revenue increasing 51% year-over-year. High demand for its latest gaming consoles, Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, saw hardware revenue almost double with 86% growth. Xbox content and services also surged 40%, attributed to its games and subscriptions, including Xbox Game Pass.

It's the third time Microsoft has talked numbers around Xbox Game Pass, its Netflix-style gaming subscription at the heart of its content and services portfolio. It almost doubles the first reported Xbox Game Pass back figures from its FY20 Q3 earnings, previously surpassing 10 million users across Xbox and PC. It also reported 90 million Xbox Live MAUs back in April, which represents all users, rather than exclusively paying Xbox Live Gold subscribers.

They marketed Gamepass really well. Not to mention it has a pretty good roster of games.

Subscriptions are not my cup of tea, but I can see why the average consumer would think it's a good deal.
 

Bester

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This one is far more dangerous:
Dangerous? Even if games all require a subscription, I got 10 spare bucks per month. My wallet is not in any danger.

Anyway, I only bought maybe ~10 titles in the last 5 years. I got Torrentpass.
 

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Good riddance. Good riddance to every service trying to attempt to mainstream restricted game streaming.
 

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Only their games development went down, Stadia as a product and concept will continue to be pushed and sold. Beware the rise of games as a service, men.

Yeah. Pretty much Google just now learned what Valve learned years ago: There's more money in selling other people's games than selling your own.
 

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This one is far more dangerous:
Dangerous? Even if games all require a subscription, I got 10 spare bucks per month. My wallet is not in any danger.

Anyway, I only bought maybe ~10 titles in the last 5 years. I got Torrentpass.

Its more of a threat in regards to preservstion or community modding.

If gamimg goes streaming your experiences will be very much locked down to what the devs/companies want you to have or do.

But meh if it happens decades of old games to always go back to.
 

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Its more of a threat in regards to preservstion or community modding.

If gamimg goes streaming your experiences will be very much locked down to what the devs/companies want you to have or do.
Xbox does streaming? What's it called?
 

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Its more of a threat in regards to preservstion or community modding.

If gamimg goes streaming your experiences will be very much locked down to what the devs/companies want you to have or do.
Xbox does streaming? What's it called?
XCloud, the one that will replace Gamepass slowly when all the sheep find more convenient to play through stream than downloading it. The ole boiled frog strategy on the works.
 

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None of this would have wasted anybodys time or money if they had just listened to reason. Everyone knew this wouldn't work.
 

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Its more of a threat in regards to preservstion or community modding.

If gamimg goes streaming your experiences will be very much locked down to what the devs/companies want you to have or do.
Xbox does streaming? What's it called?
XCloud, the one that will replace Gamepass slowly when all the sheep find more convenient to play through stream than downloading it. The ole boiled frog strategy on the works.
There is no reason to discontinue Gamepass. They can and will run Gamepass and XCloud next to eachother.
 

SerratedBiz

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There is no reason to discontinue Gamepass. They can and will run Gamepass and XCloud next to eachother.

I don't think it's a huge leap to believe (and fear) that, in the future, more and more games will become available exclusively as part of streaming services (ie Stadia, XCloud) until it becomes the defacto mode of delivery.

Weak men create hard times.
 

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Its more of a threat in regards to preservstion or community modding.

If gamimg goes streaming your experiences will be very much locked down to what the devs/companies want you to have or do.
Xbox does streaming? What's it called?
XCloud, the one that will replace Gamepass slowly when all the sheep find more convenient to play through stream than downloading it. The ole boiled frog strategy on the works.
There is no reason to discontinue Gamepass. They can and will run Gamepass and XCloud next to eachother.
There are many reasons, as soon as Microsoft have enough of an infrastructure in place, more and more games will be online only with no download option, also, subscription services dont pay developers by units sold but by hours played, so, if gamepass or other subscription services becomes a dominant platform, this will push indie developers to focus on multiplayer games that have the most hours played and who determines the price of the hour is Microsoft. Do you like single player indie game? Hope you start to like multiplayer games to have something to play. I see indie single player games being buried by tons of casual multiplayer games like Fall Guys on those platforms. Also, tons of multiplayer games with grinding to have as much hours played as humanly possible.

The sheep are buying on this consumer friendly bs from Microsoft, only looking short term, they dont know they might get fucked on the long term. It is this way humanity is so fucked, most people see advantage and go running for it like Lemmings without stopping to think for a second if that is truly a good idea and that something might be too good to be true. XCloud is the end game of Microsoft, that is ovbious, there is no reason to keep two systems that canibalize each other, gamepass is just the way to get there and they have no interest of keeping that once the transition is over. I prefer to keep buying my games but if too many people only have gamepass, game developers will feel the pressure to attend that market instead of the traditional model and while you might be able still to buy those games on steam, they were made thinking on milking gamepass.
 

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It's been one day since the Announcement that Google will close their "cloud gaming" development studios and essentially pare down their "Stadia" initiative since it wasn't profitable. Yet here we are one fucking day later with the same "It's Inevitable, Maaan!" shit grabbing on to the next shit that attempts the same failed strategy. It's like a never-ending repeating cycle where you learn nothing and develop partial Amnesia with you fucking people: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...vice-for-everyone.126618/page-27#post-6522103

"xCloud" is even still in "Beta" or "Early Preview" or whatever they're calling it with a limited number of games and Microsoft isn't even Marketing it for console or PC players right now, but is trying to reach Mobiletards: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-game-pass/cloud-gaming
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PlayStation Now has been a thing for like 6 years and even allows PC players to play PlayStation games on PC and it barely got like a million people interested: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-now/ps-now-on-pc/
Stadia may have failed partly because of that (it would have failed anyway though), but they're not the only service out there. GeForce Now is near death for lack of support and other reasons. The Steam Streaming service is close to irrelevant and everybody even forgot it exists. PlayStation Now is close to irrelevant even though it functions like your "Netflix for games" and even lets PC players play PlayStation games. There are close to 110 million PS4s out there and the service even works on PC and they barely have a million Subscribers after 6 years:

Calm the fuck down. No, they won't undermine their own console strategy by making games excl000sive to some fringe service with barely any users or interest. If anything they've went the other way by releasing Halo and similar on Steam to reach a broader audience. And they already don't have enough games to incentivize people to buy into the next console cycle. That's why they went on a developer buying spree.
 
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Catacombs

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None of this would have wasted anybodys time or money if they had just listened to reason
Stadia was an experiment. Now that they have the infrastructure, Google will try to monetize somewhere else. In the end, though, that "somewhere else" will likely be in the advertising space because Google is, in the end, just a shitty advertising conglomerate.
 

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