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Anoik

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Then i will like Gothic 3 and Oblivion. But i never liked Black and White.
 

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One of the most significant alterations will be the reinvented combat/skills-system.

Very happy about this. I've enjoyed the story, setting and choices you could make in I & II. The combat was something I was hoping the would focus to improve on.

Good RP + Good Combat would make me happy.
 

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Jinxed said:
I just hope we don't wait 324345356 years for an english version. They are getting a lot of hype nowadays so I think they're aiming for a multi national release.

I also hope they have more than 5 people doing ALL the voice overs (Gothic II). The German version had over 30(?) people. Bleh.

Is Atari Pulblishing Gothic III? I hope not.
 

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This sounds very, VERY cool. Looks like the RPG genre has its champion once again.

No character creation = Gothic = Final Fantasy = not a RPG.
 

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Gothic was classbased to the max. You chose a class later and gained abilities depending on that specific class, with a small bunch left outside for everyone to learn.
Basically, you created a character during the game.

Now correct me if I'm wrong but the classes in FF are a lot more static. And you don't get to do anything aside from boosting up predetermined skills.

Didn't they say the system was getting a makeover? So it's hard to make conclusions anyway.
 

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Rina still wants to roleplay herself!

Damn, this is getting me wet. I expect Gothic 3 to deliver on its promises, the developer has a track record of doing so.

All you 'the combat is too hard' people ought to re-consider how you play the game. Geminito - the whole idea is that discretion is the better part of valour, especially when you start off. You can run away from nearly all creatures/NPCs, by zig-zagging as you do it.

And combat itself is all about timing. Forget the Morrowind combat method, this is more sophisticated. You must time your attacks and your blocks, by paying close attention to when your opponent strikes.

At any rate they've talked about making controls easier this time.
 

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I'll almost certainly have to get a new computer to play Gothic III, but it looks like it'll be worth it.
 

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I really liked combat in Gothic 2. It was not just hitting a button like Morrowind which is boring.
 

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AZ said:
I really liked combat in Gothic 2. It was not just hitting a button like Morrowind which is boring.

I just went over and checked all the stuff on G3, it looks pretty good. I'm finally downloading a demo of G2 (don't know why I didn't before). With the inclusion of consequences, more skills and choice - as long as it's not a slugfest, it sounds like it could be the role playing choice of 2006.
 

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Just rember that the fight is not about fast smashing the keys but atack/block in correct time, and if someting looks strong you should beter avoid it.

btw. tehy planed bigger freedom from G1 but they only got time to complite first part of the game, and had to rushed the rest.
 

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Combat was "easy" in Gothic and Gothic 2, but you have to be careful, like other have say, it's about timing, and about pick your battles and leave others if you can't win. It's more action orientated than other rpgs, without dice rolls for hit. If you hit damage will be based in your strength and in the damage of your weapon, minus the protection of his armor, if they have it. Not a lot of skills for combat. Let's see this time.
 

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If you hit damage will be based in your strength and in the damage of your weapon, minus the protection of his armor, if they have it.

Dmg also depend on random factor.
 

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Does anyone know where I can find Gothic 1 for purchase? Has to be a place that can deliver to Switerland. I have Gothic 2, though I've never played it much, but I'd like to try the first one.
 

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Twinfalls said:
All you 'the combat is too hard' people ought to re-consider how you play the game. Geminito - the whole idea is that discretion is the better part of valour, especially when you start off. You can run away from nearly all creatures/NPCs, by zig-zagging as you do it.
I'm one of those people that thought that Gothic 1 (I have yet to find no. 2 :( ) had shite combat. Or maybe I was too unco-ordinated*. .
Whatever, there was enough else in there to keep my interest.

So, even if Gothic 3 does not provide some panacea for us "keyboard impaired", it certainly still sounds like it is heading in the right direction as far as mitigating any possible RT dissapointments regardless (note: not saying there will be any dissapointments necessarily). That is, there will no doubt be Other Stuff (tm) that will impress me even if the combat (still?) sux.

I'm looking forward to it.

[* And. yes, I was Cpt Cautious. Also, I have no problems with twitchy FPSes]
 

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Kraszu said:
If you hit damage will be based in your strength and in the damage of your weapon, minus the protection of his armor, if they have it.

Dmg also depend on random factor.
Thanks, i was not knowing that.
 

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Astromarine said:
Does anyone know where I can find Gothic 1 for purchase? Has to be a place that can deliver to Switerland. I have Gothic 2, though I've never played it much, but I'd like to try the first one.
I'm like the anti-Astro or somthing. Can't find number 2, have number 1.

Bittorrent is getting tempting, 'cept I keep hearing rumours about 2 being released legitimately (along with its expansion) down here sometime.
 

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Shagnak said:
Astromarine said:
Does anyone know where I can find Gothic 1 for purchase? Has to be a place that can deliver to Switerland. I have Gothic 2, though I've never played it much, but I'd like to try the first one.
I'm like the anti-Astro or somthing. Can't find number 2, have number 1.

Bittorrent is getting tempting, 'cept I keep hearing rumours about 2 being released legitimately (along with its expansion) down here sometime.
From the interview..
Gothic compilations such as the ‘Collectors edition’ (which contains all the previous Gothic products) will be available worldwide before the third part's release.
 

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Gothic combat wasn´t too hard imo. It was different. And the Gothic games are all about the fact that you´re really weak at the beginning. If you have an encounter like : die, reload, die, reload... it simply means, that you aren´t ready for this particular enemy and the area...


Does anyone know where I can find Gothic 1 for purchase? Has to be a place that can deliver to Switerland. I have Gothic 2, though I've never played it much, but I'd like to try the first one.

Assuming that you´re in the german speaking part of switzerland...

Here you go...

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/AS...7077/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_11_3/028-4326186-3514138

They even have reduced tax-rates.

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/tg/stores/static/-/help/service-ch/028-5834304-2310929
 

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I didnt know that the later parts of Gothic (1) were rushed, but I certainly can imagine it being true. The first and second part of it played like 2 different games. As much as I loved the first part of the game I was really bored by the neverending dungeon-thingie in the endgame.
 

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Shagnak said:
I'm one of those people that thought that Gothic 1 (I have yet to find no. 2 :( ) had shite combat. Or maybe I was too unco-ordinated*. .
Whatever, there was enough else in there to keep my interest.
[* And. yes, I was Cpt Cautious. Also, I have no problems with twitchy FPSes]

Fair enough. Everyone would agree that the one feature really worth all the extra work implementing - far, far more than a playable woman or different starting character - is a turn-based combat option. But that's a dream for different times.
 

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