KickStarter Grim Dawn

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

anything other than commando(demolitionist/soldier) is heresy

that has been my fav too..

 

[Perkel]

Ok i started it just a while ago. I noticed that there is this mod called Cataclysm Redone. Should i use this mod which seems to add a lot of stuff ?

 

[Arkast]

My only issue with the game is that the builds you find on the official forums are obviously made by people using the item generator to make the uber-ist character possible for the current patch (which updates frequent enough that you'll NEVER gather all the equipment legit to copy one of them, unless you cheat yourself).

That said, I love this game, over PoE, and WAY over Diablo III. Commandos represent!

 

[DeepOcean]

Ok i started it just a while ago. I noticed that there is this mod called Cataclysm Redone. Should i use this mod which seems to add a lot of stuff ?

Those mods add alot of stuff that are really unbalanced, advice you only using it after you played the original content and you want new stuff.

 

[Perkel]

Ok i started it just a while ago. I noticed that there is this mod called Cataclysm Redone. Should i use this mod which seems to add a lot of stuff ?

Those mods add alot of stuff that are really unbalanced, advice you only using it after you played the original content and you want new stuff.

Ok thanks.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Commando is pretty boring TBH.

 

[Arkast]

Boring, but dependable. Will let you get through the game with not much problem and farm Crucible for your more interesting characters.

 

[Okagron]

This is compounded by the fact that grim dawn builds tend to be light on active abilities, making it feel like a slog.

Not all builds, this happens mostly with auto attack builds. Piano builds are quite common such as DoT builds and caster builds.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Boring, but dependable. Will let you get through the game with not much problem and farm Crucible for your more interesting characters.

Absolutely true. I would actually recommend either Commando, Warder or Witchblade for just about anyone's first "training wheels" character. Later on you can have fun with things like Spellbreakers, Apostates, etc.

 

[DeepOcean]

This is compounded by the fact that grim dawn builds tend to be light on active abilities, making it feel like a slog.

Not all builds, this happens mostly with auto attack builds. Piano builds are quite common such as DoT builds and caster builds.

Auto attack builds start boring but after some build up on devotions and some passive procs, it is amusing watching half of the screen exploding and on fire with my dual pistol purifier.

 

[DeepOcean]

Boring, but dependable. Will let you get through the game with not much problem and farm Crucible for your more interesting characters.

Absolutely true. I would actually recommend either Commando, Warder or Witchblade for just about anyone's first "training wheels" character. Later on you can have fun with things like Spellbreakers, Apostates, etc.

Especially for hardcore, those hit scan doom bolts, one hit kill charges and one hit kill meteor showers and small boss battle arenas on Ultimate are really nice for ranged glass cannon characters without decent gear.

 

[Perkel]

Went for Necromancer and then got soldier too. 6 skele raiding party with me at head.
I am at Burrwitch outscirts.

Combat is fun and flying monsters never gets old (which me a lot of Titan Quest). So far also pretty good for genre level design, though lack of random maps will probably hurt on replay.

What is Crucible you speak of ?


edit: What is "food" i pick it up and nothing happens.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

Crucible is an optional DLC that basically plays like a gigantic endurance round and is really good for farming loot if you get good at it

 

[DeepOcean]

Went for Necromancer and then got soldier too. 6 skele raiding party with me at head.
I am at Burrwitch outscirts.

Combat is fun and flying monsters never gets old (which me a lot of Titan Quest). So far also pretty good for genre level design, though lack of random maps will probably hurt on replay.

What is Crucible you speak of ?


edit: What is "food" i pick it up and nothing happens.

Crucible is an arena battle DLC, if you have it, on the next character you make, I recommend you to farm it a little from level 02 to 10 and buy 6 devotion points in there for very cheap, then return to it when you are on ultimate and your build is surviving trash mobs and common heroes with ease on Utimate, it is the best place to farm for loot and it isn't as boring as boss running.

Food replenishes your constitution, constitution is an stat linked to outside combat health regeneration, if you pay attention to your health bar, you will see an yellow outline, that is how much constitution you have left, every time you regenerate out of combat, that yellow outline is consumed until being empty, when that happens, you stop regenerating out of combat and need to use potions.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

What is "food" i pick it up and nothing happens

Buddy you got to eat it too.

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

What is "food" i pick it up and nothing happens

Buddy you got to eat it too.

Food rations replenish Stamina (represented by the golden-ish overlay bar on your Health bar). Stamina helps you regenerate Health in a pinch.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

What is "food" i pick it up and nothing happens

Buddy you got to eat it too.

Food rations replenish Stamina (represented by the golden-ish overlay bar on your Health bar). Stamina helps you regenerate Health in a pinch.

I know man, I'm just messing with Perkel.

 

[Perkel]

Ah i though that yellow thing was just some poison status or something.

 

[agentorange]

I've had this game since I kickstarted it but never gave it a real try. I'm thinking about doing so now but I have one question: does the DLC only work on a new game, or if I start a new game now, without the dlc, and like it enough that I buy the dlc later can I then access the new content through that save file?

 

[RoBoBOBR]

agentorange DLC is crucible, which is in no way tied to starting a new game, and an expansion, that adds an Act, which can also be accessed with a save from base game.

 

[Serus]

I never understand people who claim that PoE is "mindless, repetitive, full of grind" or that story and setting is just a pretext to kill thousands of mobs over and over again. Which is all 100% true, don't get me wrong here. But in the weird universe of Fanboysia in which some people apparently live in, the exact same description doesn't apply to Grim Dawn... somehow.
In reality the only major and meaningful difference in how the 2 games play is that PoE is online-only while GD is single player first and the consequences of that. And maybe PoE is a bit more varied in the long run (as in - it has more "stuff" to consider/collect when it comes to making builds. Not necessarily that it's of any better quality, mind you). The grind, the repetitiveness, even those grim/dark but underused settings in both cases, are all perfectly comparable between the two titles. One can have a preference for one over the other obviously but that doesn't mean there is some obvious and objective major difference in quality between the two. Anyone who claims otherwise is either deluding himself or trying to sell you something.
All this coming from someone who spent dozens (or rather hundreds) of hours in both games and find both of them enjoyable good for what they are.

 

[Renevent]

I haven't played PoE in a while, for me though I vastly prefer GD's "grind" over PoE. I never found any awesome loot in PoE while in GD it was balanced far more generously and with single players in mind. I've tried multiple times to get into PoE but never was able to get into the game. Item system was boring it felt like weapons and armor were merely shells designed to hold skills rather than epic artifacts with distinct character. GD's actual gameplay is better too, with the physics system and waaaaay better melee. Nothing against PoE though and I can see why people enjoy it.

 

[Serus]

I haven't played PoE in a while, for me though I vastly prefer GD's "grind" over PoE. I never found any awesome loot in PoE while in GD it was balanced far more generously and with single players in mind. I've tried multiple times to get into PoE but never was able to get into the game. Item system was boring it felt like weapons and armor were merely shells designed to hold skills rather than epic artifacts with distinct character. GD's actual gameplay is better too, with the physics system and waaaaay better melee. Nothing against PoE though and I can see why people enjoy it.

What do you call "gameplay" here ? Better physics is nice but is mostly a gimmick without any real impact to actual gameplay. It affects the looks of the game but not how you play it. Show me where better "physics" in GD actually in a meaningful make its gameplay different or even superior to PoE ? Actual examples please. Don't get me wrong, I like when mobs when hit hard fly away in spectacular fashion and other fun effects like that but calling it "gameplay" ? Where the actual gameplay is in this genre is in my opinion in making/brainstorming builds and in that aspect actually PoE - arguably - has an advantage in variety over GD.
As to the fact that you need to grind more in PoE to get some items, it is technically true if you directly compare numbers of hours needed to grind if both games are played the same way. However, this is where the only major meaningful difference (in my opinion) between the 2 titles comes into play - they're not "meant" to be played the same way, so to speak. In PoE trading with other players is actually a crucial part of gameplay, an element absent in a game without dedicated servers like GD (otherwise you might as well cheat, same result). Whether one likes it or not, whether one finds it enjoyable or not is another matter but superiority of one over the other is in this case purely subjective.
In short: Comparing the 2 games directly in the only major area where they actually differ greatly from each other is in my opinion pointless. If one doesn't like the obligatory online element then sure, GD is "better" and vice versa but that's not an objective difference in quality but in types of entertainment offered.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Melee is viable in Grim Dawn.

 

[Sykar]

Melee is viable in Grim Dawn.

Same as in GD.