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Hearts of Iron 4 - The Ultimate WWII Strategy Game

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by GarfunkeL, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. Removal Educated

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    I don't think it is, since if you let the civil war run for a while and delete the doomstacks the US drops on Germany, various events fire about how the US and UK are starting to hold war games and concentrating forces in the north sea. At least it seems like a US intervention is supposed to happen pretty late, but the US usually declares war right away
     
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    Yea, it really seems odd that there would be an option for US intervention within weeks of the civil war starting, when both UK and US outnumber the Germans in number of divisions. Similarly, it seems Germans can't even make atomic bomb threats or retaliations to being nuked. With the conditions being like that, it'd make it so that it'd be crazy NOT to intervene immediately if given the chance since the odds are so stacked in the US/UK's favor.

    The way nukes work in the mod does have a neat little detail in that they change target tile's terrain type.
     
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  3. Life of the Party Arcane

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    Sure, imbalance and bugs, but my main issue is this seemingly way too popular notion that civil wars in a HoI game, particularly those involving as many sides as possible, are something good and desirable and that we want as many of them as possible.

    It's messy by design, not by mistake.
     
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    I personally can see why the notion got so popular, since Kaiserreich made pretty strong proof of concept on it making for interesting scenarios. I'd just say that TRW doesn't do it particularly well.
     
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    Another installment in "things we came up with to avoid having to do a Soviet expansion!"
     
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    The more things change... :lol:
     
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    (Hyuuuuge) Bulgaria dev diary out: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi4-dev-diary-bulgaria.1424172/

    Does it please or appal you, fantadomat?

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    Byzaboo go: owo

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  8. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    LoL neither,i have lost fate in paracuckz long time ago,they fucked up the moment they ignored in the released version and focused on fairy tale countries. That is why i just modded me self a nice three,shame that modding it was more fun than playing the game. The core play loop is pretty tedious as it is in all modern paracuckz games. Just make a powerful infantry/artillery and watch the retards melt.

    Also that byzantium shit is clearly a dumb devs assuming that everyone in that area were grecophiles that want to remake byz lol. Both ww1 mod and the kaiserreich have better threes than vanilla.

    Anyway,i will most likely will play it when releases.
     
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  10. RobotSquirrel Educated

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    use this one instead its way better https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1946557392

    Some highlights:
    - Actual Soviet Union tree that is separate from the original Russia tree and has its own unique mechanics
    - Actual win states for Central Powers
    - The war doesn't just result in a constant stalemate due to unbalanced techs like in the original TGW mod
    - some of the alt-history is funny
    - Germany has the ability to stab Austria in the back proper with interesting mechanics
    - Austria can prevent Ferdinand's assassination which creates a new dynamic trigger for WW1 (I had a run where WW1 never happened rather it turned into a small proxy conflict between Russia and the Ottomans)
    - Most of the world has unique focus trees
    - Alt history Britain is completely crazy to play as
     
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    I have zero interest in the alt history, but I'll give it a try.
     
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  12. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yeah,i have played a few game in it a half a year ago,maybe. Back then it was pretty fun,but unfinished. Pretty historically accurate and very hard to achieve more than what happened in history. It took me a lot of tries to beat Kebab,greece,serbia and romania in the second Balkan war :smug:. The most annoying part was how the battle line don't move,which is pretty accurate :).
     
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    Well if you just follow what the AI does you'll get historically accurate WW1.
     
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    I had forgotten about that scenario actually!
     
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    I bring to you the best mod ever for us storyfags. And non-storyfags too.
    A mod that has more content for shithole countries than normal HOI or Road to 56 has for majors.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2173766180&searchtext=the+new+order
    The New Order Last Days of Europe

    Play it faggots, writing is better than ANY new rpg. So enjoy. If you want I can give you a list of mods I play it with.

    Also a spoiler for one path for a certain country that can be nazbol or fascist as well if you go right.

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    This man believes the long dead Russians tsars son Alexei is still alive and in hiding, waiting to return one day like Jesus Christ. This guy wants to prepare Russia for his return so he ethnically cleansed the countries people, purge his own staff, create secret police, and gasses his own civilians when they protest. He sees and hears things like angels. Not going to spoil the juicy bits but he is by far the worse outcome for Russia. Even the Aryan Brotherhood is better by comparison.
     
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    yes its my most played game on steam lmao
     
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    I think I will make the mistake of buying it this time, for the multiplayer and for the WW1 mod mostly. I guess the AI is still garbage, but at least they've added some details and mechanics. I remember when there was no oil resource. Yet naval invasions are still conducted with convoys, which is atrocious.

    So what, only Albania left on the Balkans without its own focus tree?

    Still haven't tried Darkest Hour's WW1 scenario, too occupied with The Seven Years' War and a tv series I'm watching in the evenings, with a mixture of curiosity and disgust.
     
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    That sets me a timetable on my STRENG GEHEIM campaign for TNO I guess.
     
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    can't wait to see what armenian_genocide_denier_1488 thinks of the expansion pack. lookin forward to his hot steam review
     
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    I tried the WWI scenario just now. My favorite scenario - play with Russia and avoid entering the war, kind of predictably leads to WWI never starting. Europe continues to reign over the world, and communism and fascism never gain traction. Everybody wins.
     
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