Official Codex Discord Server

  1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

Hearts of Iron 4 - The Ultimate WWII Strategy Game

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by GarfunkeL, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. Spectacle Arcane Patron

    Spectacle
    Joined:
    May 25, 2006
    Messages:
    7,321
    Yes it did. The Panzer General publisher even went to court in Germany to prove they were using the swastika in a historical context. For some reason paradox doesn't have the backbone to do the same.

    Just say no to revisionism!



    Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  2. Hoaxmetal Arcane

    Hoaxmetal
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,975
    Muh swastikas.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  3. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

    Vaarna_Aarne
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages:
    33,379
    Location:
    Cell S-004
    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    >Be nazi Finland
    >By 1945 have caused civil wars in UK, the Raj, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Australia

    [​IMG]

    The peace conference thing is kind of a pain in the ass tho, I had to re-reload and bullshit around for like fifteen minutes to achieve passable Greater Finland when the Soviet Union *finally* decided that enough was enough.
     
    ^ Top  
  4. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    HOi4 is an rpg now because you have to save scumm during turn based peace conference.:troll:
     
    ^ Top  
  5. Ulminati Kamelåså! Patron

    Self-Ejected
    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Messages:
    20,233
    Location:
    DiNMRK
    There is 4-5 "historical German flag" mods out already. Paradox probably counted on this. It's easier to let mod fix it than having to deal with German press. The German version also had Hitler and co's portraits blacked out, but a mod fixes that too.

    Of course soviet iconography is in - Stalin did nothing wrong! There is no fake Cyrillic for communist countries on the map like in hoi3 though. Nor fancy Gothic letters for axis. I hope mods fix that soon. Some of the "Fascist country names" are pretty amusing though. Denmark gets to be The North Sea Empire. :D
     
    ^ Top  
  6. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    Fascist Netherlands is called the "Dutch Rijk". Made me cringe when I saw it, I'm pretty sure Google translate could do better than that.
     
    ^ Top  
  7. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

    Vaarna_Aarne
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages:
    33,379
    Location:
    Cell S-004
    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    Fascist Australia is Empire of the Platypus.
     
    ^ Top  
  8. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    Fun fact about the platypus, it has the most glorious name in Dutch. It's a vogelbekdier, literally a "Bird beak animal". We're a creative bunch.

    In other news, a Barbarossa from Asia is the most painful fucking thing to pull off. And I'm not sure what the soviets are fighting with, but I guess they're even more out of supplies than I am, otherwise I never would have made it to the Urals. And no idea how they got to 4.45 million casualties, guess it's from surrounds or something?

    [​IMG]
     
    ^ Top  
  9. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

    Vaarna_Aarne
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages:
    33,379
    Location:
    Cell S-004
    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    In my war with the Soviets in the nazi Finland campaign, the Soviet casualty figures ended up at over nine million. I figure a big part of it is in how limited their equipment stockpile starts to get which makes their combat efficiency lower, and attrition.

    To me the more annoying part is how the victory point based war score essentially makes the Soviets with 90% National Unity fight practically fucking forever, well after the point where their war capacity has collapsed (though since I didn't make sure Kwa goes nazi they had American soldiers fighting there too, who I guess marched to the front all the way from India).

    Our name for it is vesinokkaeläin. Literally means water beak animal.
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2016
    ^ Top  
  10. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    That only reinforces my beliefs that the Finns are our long-lost mongolian brethren.

    Edit: I've had a supply shortage since before my DOW on the soviets, and it's only gotten worse since. I've got no idea how my army is still managing to advance.
     
    ^ Top  
  11. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    No komrade retreat, zdarova
     
    ^ Top  
  12. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    Im playing as germens naturaly and so far Austria refused anshluss and had to take it by force :dealwithit:



    Was supporting nationalist spain with land lease and some volunteers also with italians and japanese, the opposing side was supported by the russkies, its 1938 and so far its a tie.
     
    ^ Top  
  13. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    Are you manually controlling your volunteers? Every streamer I've seen managed to mop op the opposing side quite quickly, even if they're awful at the game. But maybe they didn't get soviet help.
     
    ^ Top  
  14. Space Satan Arcane

    Space Satan
    Joined:
    May 13, 2013
    Messages:
    5,057
    Location:
    Space Hell
    Onlysoviets help Rep. Spain it seems. They are pisspoor on forces and one encirclement is enough to drive one side to collapse.
     
    ^ Top  
  15. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    [​IMG]

    :lol:


    I got only 2 volunteers so can't do much.
     
    ^ Top  
  16. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    Average Manatee
    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2012
    Messages:
    10,565
    So guys, is AI decent or dogshit again?

    You think they'll put effort into DLCs?
     
    ^ Top  
  17. ArtB Cipher Patron

    ArtB
    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    819
    Location:
    Surrounded by smog and machetes
    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Yeah. I'm playing the Republicans now and it's a fair grind. I am winnig, but all the undermanned divisions make it a pain in the butt to get rid of even encirceld forces, especially if they are in easily defensible terrain. Thank goodness for those 3 divisions the Russkies sent.

    It seems that other countries, or at least France, can help the Republicans, but they have to go communist in order to do that. Republican Spain also becomes kinda unrepublican, since (at least in my game) it switched government to communist at the outbreak of the war. Wasn't anticipating that.
     
    ^ Top  
  18. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    foolish dinmrk soon will be gone


    [​IMG]
     
    ^ Top  
  19. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

    Vaarna_Aarne
    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2008
    Messages:
    33,379
    Location:
    Cell S-004
    MCA Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2
    After unwittingly doing an all-nighter yesterday (I swear gais, it was still 1 AM when I was going to quit but then suddenly it was 6 AM!), I'd say Hearts of Iron 4 is the kind of sequel I'd prefer Pdox to make from now on. It's a good sort of departure from the previous games, so co-existence with older titles is good. I'd rather have a sequel that does something DIFFERENT rather than some manner of baseline update which resets the entire expansion cycle.

    Anyway, you guys noticed a little something over at the game's forums? Kaiserreich is coming to HoI4.
     
    ^ Top  
  20. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    So far i have to say HOI 4 is exactly everything that i wanted from improved Hoi 3, but most of all its fun to play.

    I hope they will not make it a mess with DLCs like they did with ck2.
     
    ^ Top  
  21. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    I'm not entirely convinced by the AI so far. The "AUTOMATE YOUR FRONT EZ GAME EZ LAIF" seems worse than the one in HoI3, if that's even possible. It misses loads of opportunities to cut off salients and clear pockets. My chinese troops in Stalingrad got cut off at one point, I figured I'd lost them so I didn't check for a while, but after a week or two I was able to walk them back casually to meet up with their buddies on my side of the front. After the AI just stood around in a province next to it doing fuck all.

    But it's paradox so your mileage may vary.
     
    ^ Top  
  22. Hoaxmetal Arcane

    Hoaxmetal
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2009
    Messages:
    8,975
    As long as they implement toggle-able "features" as they're going to do with CK2.
     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  23. Space Satan Arcane

    Space Satan
    Joined:
    May 13, 2013
    Messages:
    5,057
    Location:
    Space Hell
    Manual orders override battleplans so you can adjust battles the way you like
     
    ^ Top  
  24. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

    Makabb
    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2014
    Messages:
    11,753
    You must did not play hoi3 a lot because it was the same in Hoi 3 but more cumbersome, here it actualy works.
     
    ^ Top  
  25. Sulimo Arcane Patron

    Sulimo
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Messages:
    3,230
    Wasteland 2
    Played quite a lot HoI3, don't have the numbers since I didn't get it on steam. But maybe it's just me being used to my abusive husband (HoI3) and not understanding my lover who actually makes sense (HoI4).
     
    ^ Top  

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.