Raghar
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I tried Italy in HoI2 and the result was...
1. I killed French fleet without significant loses all BB survived, French Richelieu survived as well, but French fleet stopped to play any factor.
2. I lost 5 battleships in first year.
3. I lost tree TAC squadrons in first year.
4. I lost all NAV squadrons in fist year somehow I looked away just for one month... And they were gone.
5. I managed somehow make ONE tank division by extremely careful allocation of tinny Italian industry. I lost it. I managed to make it again. I lost it. I managed to make one again. I lost it.
6. I lost 3 carriers.
7. I lost 4 CAS squadrons.
8. Then US and UK tried to strat bomb Italy, and I had 40, or was it only 38, industrial capacity. That means bye bye research teams, was one of that research 86 percent?
After UK and France barricaded themselves in Alexandria, I managed to split my transports, one transport attacked Tel Aviv, rest of the transports empty moved back, in case someone would attack invading force and kill all transports. I would be without ANY transport capacity. ... AI attacked these transports that were going back empty. This meant I managed to capture Tel Aviv second time (first time AI had motorized brigade nearby and while CAS thought they would kill it motorized brigade managed fast night attack and captured airport thus destroyed all 4 CAS squadron), and after reinforcing it by that one surviving transport, I managed to conquer Suez.
In year 42 I finally spared enough IC to manage to build more than 40 divisions. And in 45, I got my first TAC (after these I lost in early years of war). With more than 40 divisions I finally had enough to push into Iraq and I managed to capture Baku and bit force Russians to relieve pressure on Germans, then I found Germans are lacking oil, and I send them 1000 from my reserves. That refreshed Germans and they started to do offensive yet again. (I had three divisions on Russian front to help Germans, and two furious fighter squadrons that did theirs best to fight against Russians...)
In 44-45 Italy started to have more infantry divisions than Finland, which was an accomplishment. Of course US poured into Africa 30 divisions, but luckily they stopped after they captured Tunis and started sending strats against Italy.
I consider incredible that I was still alive in year 46. Considering playing Italy is like being raped into rectum by a metal object. (Actually it's called rectoscope and it's rather painless examination.)
First part of war went amazing I destroyed French fleet, and Japan was able to CONQUER Hawaii. Of course Japan lost it in second year of it's war with US, but in 45 they destroyed US 3-5 carriers in single month.
Middle of war went BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
End of war looks much better, as long as US will not git gut and swarm US with numerous tank divisions and nukes. Well, Giblartar is still UK in year 46. And Malta has still one UK tank division garissoning it. And 30+ US divisions are near Tunis which still can cause problems, but it looks they don't think they can take on fortifications in Alexandria, or be able to conquer Suez back.
So question is why was real world Italy so BAD, and why a game as Italy is so hellish?
1. I killed French fleet without significant loses all BB survived, French Richelieu survived as well, but French fleet stopped to play any factor.
2. I lost 5 battleships in first year.
3. I lost tree TAC squadrons in first year.
4. I lost all NAV squadrons in fist year somehow I looked away just for one month... And they were gone.
5. I managed somehow make ONE tank division by extremely careful allocation of tinny Italian industry. I lost it. I managed to make it again. I lost it. I managed to make one again. I lost it.
6. I lost 3 carriers.
7. I lost 4 CAS squadrons.
8. Then US and UK tried to strat bomb Italy, and I had 40, or was it only 38, industrial capacity. That means bye bye research teams, was one of that research 86 percent?
After UK and France barricaded themselves in Alexandria, I managed to split my transports, one transport attacked Tel Aviv, rest of the transports empty moved back, in case someone would attack invading force and kill all transports. I would be without ANY transport capacity. ... AI attacked these transports that were going back empty. This meant I managed to capture Tel Aviv second time (first time AI had motorized brigade nearby and while CAS thought they would kill it motorized brigade managed fast night attack and captured airport thus destroyed all 4 CAS squadron), and after reinforcing it by that one surviving transport, I managed to conquer Suez.
In year 42 I finally spared enough IC to manage to build more than 40 divisions. And in 45, I got my first TAC (after these I lost in early years of war). With more than 40 divisions I finally had enough to push into Iraq and I managed to capture Baku and bit force Russians to relieve pressure on Germans, then I found Germans are lacking oil, and I send them 1000 from my reserves. That refreshed Germans and they started to do offensive yet again. (I had three divisions on Russian front to help Germans, and two furious fighter squadrons that did theirs best to fight against Russians...)
In 44-45 Italy started to have more infantry divisions than Finland, which was an accomplishment. Of course US poured into Africa 30 divisions, but luckily they stopped after they captured Tunis and started sending strats against Italy.
I consider incredible that I was still alive in year 46. Considering playing Italy is like being raped into rectum by a metal object. (Actually it's called rectoscope and it's rather painless examination.)
First part of war went amazing I destroyed French fleet, and Japan was able to CONQUER Hawaii. Of course Japan lost it in second year of it's war with US, but in 45 they destroyed US 3-5 carriers in single month.
Middle of war went BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.
End of war looks much better, as long as US will not git gut and swarm US with numerous tank divisions and nukes. Well, Giblartar is still UK in year 46. And Malta has still one UK tank division garissoning it. And 30+ US divisions are near Tunis which still can cause problems, but it looks they don't think they can take on fortifications in Alexandria, or be able to conquer Suez back.
So question is why was real world Italy so BAD, and why a game as Italy is so hellish?