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Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world action RPG prequel set in the late 1800s

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GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!!!!!!
No joke it really did ruin the hobby in retrospect.

Because of it games development, design and analysis have become substantively driven by Kwan-Anglo culture war bullshit. Endless cycles of reaction and counter-reaction, continually pissing in each other's eyes.

This game can't just be an uninspired licenced title based on some bad YA novels. Now it has to be a bloody shirt for the libs to wave or a battle standard for the 'based' to rally beneath. Losing the run of ourselves over the degree perceived personal affrimation offered by a luxury entertainment product.

Well illustrated by that Wired article. Has an almost liturgical quality in it's profession of the writer's faith. Would be too obvious as satire but doubtless the conviction is genuine.
 

Young_Hollow

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GAMERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!!!!!!
No joke it really did ruin the hobby in retrospect.

Because of it games development, design and analysis have become substantively driven by Kwan-Anglo culture war bullshit. Endless cycles of reaction and counter-reaction, continually pissing in each other's eyes.

This game can't just be an uninspired licenced title based on some bad YA novels. Now it has to be a bloody shirt for the libs to wave or a battle standard for the 'based' to rally beneath. Losing the run of ourselves over the degree perceived personal affrimation offered by a luxury entertainment product.

Well illustrated by that Wired article. Has an almost liturgical quality in it's profession of the writer's faith. Would be too obvious as satire but doubtless the conviction is genuine.
No use blaming it on GG8, it would've happened anyway. Too many people believe that they can save the world but can't find anyone to save, so they switched to the internet and believe they're saving the world with their uneducated opinions and by supporting trending grifters.
 

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This being actively pushed into all entertainment as part of the plan. But yeah, "muh gamergate" is to blame of course.
 

Young_Hollow

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This being actively pushed into all entertainment as part of the plan. But yeah, "muh gamergate" is to blame of course.
TV didn't have anything like it and its still a woke dumpsterfire regardless. And if you look at books, there a similar theme of prioritizing vapid ''diversity'' over actual substance. Games seem to have been the only industry where they got pushback. I guess music wasn't centralized enough for it so it still has fans of every genre calling other genres trash but (seemingly) coexisting relatively peacefully.

Innocent Witches looks great, ever thought that artstyle would be used for non-LGTBT games. Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
 
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Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
Not likely given how touchy either of them are with adult content and anything that remotely resembles a school uniform. A few VNs got their steam release denied for that if I can remember correctly.
 

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TV didn't have anything like it and its still a woke dumpsterfire regardless. And if you look at books, there a similar theme of prioritizing vapid ''diversity'' over actual substance. Games seem to have been the only industry where they got pushback. I guess music wasn't centralized enough for it so it still has fans of every genre calling other genres trash but (seemingly) coexisting relatively peacefully.
Movies, comic books, books, comedy etc. As for music i only remember some types trying it with metal claiming how it was sexist :lol:. Got laughed at and gave up.

Innocent Witches looks great, ever thought that artstyle would be used for non-LGTBT games. Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
I much rather prefer 2d sprites and drawings over daz3d that only produces uncanny valley 3d freaks that look almost identical in every VN. Also don't waste money buying it, there is always f95 zone to get those games.
 

Young_Hollow

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Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
Not likely given how touchy either of them are with adult content and anything that remotely resembles a school uniform. A few VNs got their steam release denied for that if I can remember correctly.
That makes sense now that I think about it but I never thought steam would have standards for these kind of games considering the low effort anime porn that's released on it every hour. Its a weird standard to have but at least they have an un-crossable line that might be useful to have one day.
 

Young_Hollow

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TV didn't have anything like it and its still a woke dumpsterfire regardless. And if you look at books, there a similar theme of prioritizing vapid ''diversity'' over actual substance. Games seem to have been the only industry where they got pushback. I guess music wasn't centralized enough for it so it still has fans of every genre calling other genres trash but (seemingly) coexisting relatively peacefully.
Movies, comic books, books, comedy etc. As for music i only remember some types trying it with metal claiming how it was sexist :lol:. Got laughed at and gave up.

Innocent Witches looks great, ever thought that artstyle would be used for non-LGTBT games. Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
I much rather prefer 2d sprites and drawings over daz3d that only produces uncanny valley 3d freaks that look almost identical in every VN. Also don't waste money buying it, there is always f95 zone to get those games.
I think High Guardian Spice was netflix's (attempt at an) anime and it seems to have been buried since most people deny it. So anime still seems safe; if you consider anime to be safe in the first place that is. I think gaming is slowly going the way of metal / music industry since there are too many alternative options (because of indies) to switch to if any of the big players start getting preachy. We still got stuff like Forspoken coming out but people aren't reliant on big studios and publishers like in TV and movies.

3D stuff is getting good very fast. I wonder how much innovation in that sphere was made just because of Tifa Lockhart and the release of the FF7 remake. F95 ''releases'' games for free? I thought it was just Loverslab for non-Bethesda and dedicated porn games.
 

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Hopefully the developer can get it onto steam or better yet GOG where no one can see you playing it.
Not likely given how touchy either of them are with adult content and anything that remotely resembles a school uniform. A few VNs got their steam release denied for that if I can remember correctly.
That makes sense now that I think about it but I never thought steam would have standards for these kind of games considering the low effort anime porn that's released on it every hour. Its a weird standard to have but at least they have an un-crossable line that might be useful to have one day.

Their standarts are all over the place. You can see a japanese game where a psychopathic clerk rapes a zombified chick while you read his retarded thoughts on the matter (the true japanese experience) getting a pass and then you see other games getting axed over nothing, no explanation provided by Valve. And you have to guess was it because the character looked a year younger than 19 or because some tranny had a bad day when he saw a sprite of japanese boy looking more feminine that he is? It is what it is though.

F95 ''releases'' games for free? I thought it was just Loverslab for non-Bethesda and dedicated porn games.
A good place to get some jap game uncensored or try out some up to date patreon cash cow without wasting money.
 

Harthwain

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The dev took inspiration from the modern open world games made by Ubisoft, given that you can't create characters like the Weasley, it's questionable if they even used the books as inspiration.
I think it's more the issue of somebody not stopping to think about having freckles as customization option, less of a delibarate choice of someone deciding against it. I mean, in how many games you have that sort of thing during character creation (unless they are "baked-in" the specific face type)?

Edit: I watched some videos and apparently there is "Freckles and moles" setting under "Complexion" tab and "hair colour" under "Hairstyles" tab. The only thing missing is the ability to set your own skin tone and there are no pale presets. That said, unless you specifically go for Draco Malfoy's looks (with his blonde hair and black clothes he always seemed to be the palest character to me) there are some presets with white skin tone. So, overall, you are being a bit too dramatic.

As for how they "used the books as inspiration". While the game is part of the "potterverse" it's not really tied to the books (outside of Hogwarts itself). My guess is it was done mainly to give developers more creative freedom in terms of the story and the characters.

It's really depressing that mediocre open world games are by far the most popular single-player games nowadays
I'd argue this was pretty much always the case. Not just nowadays.


I think this pretty much proves two things:

1) Vocal minorities are irrelevant, so pandering to them is meaningless. This is yet another example to the already existing pile.
2) You don't really need "professional" video game reviewers in this day and age.

I can't speak for everyone, but I was working from home even before the 'Rona, except for one day of my choosing per work week, as mandated by HR. That was always by far my least productive day of any given week. Spending 2-3 hours on getting dressed up and commuting back-and-from the office through traffic jams, getting distracted by 30+ people in your immediate vicinity talking at the same time even through noise-cancelling headphones, getting asked out to have a lunch/smoke/whatever break by different people every 1.5 hours or so (and if you decline, you're an asshole) etc.
Depends on the job and how is your workplace structured. But I do agree that removing 2-3 hours you need to spend on commuting is in itself a huge gain. Suddenly you have a plenty of time. That said, I would rather be with people instead of working online. Unless people at work are shit. Then it's yet another benefit of not having to interact with them.

This game can't just be an uninspired licenced title based on some bad YA novels. Now it has to be a bloody shirt for the libs to wave or a battle standard for the 'based' to rally beneath.
I do find it funny that both sides despise the game, yet it sells like hotcakes. It says all about the influence both parties have over what the majority thinks or wants.

This being actively pushed into all entertainment as part of the plan. But yeah, "muh gamergate" is to blame of course.
I wouldn't call it a "plan". More like a fad. Or the PR way of "playing it safe". Contrast this with how Asia operates. It's a completely different world.
 
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Sarathiour

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So the Frogs, the Nips, and the Wops all get an actual female voice and the rest of us get this guy? (What did we do wrong?)

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The voice acting is all over the fucking place. French is indeed a woman, but sound like McGonall scolding you for fucking up, which is not really what the English voice is trying to convey. Dunno about the context of the line.
 

RobotSquirrel

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Because of it games development, design and analysis have become substantively driven by Kwan-Anglo culture war bullshit. Endless cycles of reaction and counter-reaction, continually pissing in each other's eyes.
It was already going to go this way anyway the journalists were doubling down constantly before gamergate. What gamergate did was expose the media's own incompetence given its lived in their heads rent free for about a decade now.
Your games were always going to end up here. Blackrock shoving billions of dollars into ESG was always going to make it go this way, follow the money trail it leads back to BlackRock's ESGs. This would put the catalyst around 2008, we were already on this path and couldn't get off it. Gamergate was a completely futile attempt to correct course.

In other news, the endings suck. This game unfortunately went Mass Effect in its CnC what ending you get doesn't matter they are all roughly the same. Otherwise I think Avalanche did an ok job with this one.
 

GrainWetski

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I can't believe the 'neutrals' still exist pretending to totally not care and how we should all just let the woke stuff continue because obviously it's just a decade+ long 'fad' that's sliding down the slippiest slope there ever was and it'll all obviously stop just before the pedo pride. You people need a new tactic.



So the Frogs, the Nips, and the Wops all get an actual female voice and the rest of us get this guy? (What did we do wrong?)

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The voice acting is all over the fucking place. French is indeed a woman, but sound like McGonall scolding you for fucking up, which is not really what the English voice is trying to convey. Dunno about the context of the line.

It's obviously a last minute change from the devs to appease the trannies.
 

Nikanuur

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For anyone struggling with the washed out colors without the possibility of turning on the HDR:

x6 Reshade options Hogwarts
https://www.nexusmods.com/hogwartslegacy/mods/4?tab=description

Use the "more colors and bloom" file. Once you are in the game, pop up the re-shade menu and switch off "Curves".

It won't be perfect, but it'll make colors definitely more vibrant while getting rid of the greyish tint to an extent.
 
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Harthwain

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I can't believe the 'neutrals' still exist
:lol:

If you think there isn't a crapload of people out there who don't care about transgender shit, just look at how many people play this game, regardless of whatever opinion "non-neutrals" (be it extreme right or extreme left) have about it. By the way, it's funny how "neutrals" suddenly became a problem (for you at least). Trying to inject the typical "we" and "they" mentality, without any moderate stance in-between the two, is both pathetic and laughable, although not surprising.

how we should all just let the woke stuff continue because obviously it's just a decade+ long 'fad'
First of all - how can you "stop woke stuff from continuing"? Because I don't see "you all" doing shit about it. At least not where it can be seen. I just ignore all LGBT-friendly shit, because that's not what I am looking for in games. I am not giving them my money or my attention, which is the best way for a business to go bust.

Secondly - I find it being a fad (or a safe PR stance) to be more believable than a theory about it being part of some long-term calculated and synchronized masterplan. I recommend to you this quote from Dune:

Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.
- from Sayings of the Muad'Dib by the Princess Irulane.
And another one:
[...] the most persistent principles of the universe were accident and error.
Which is supported by Darwin's Law (and not just that), by the way.

You people need a new tactic.
I don't, but maybe you do, "people". I don't know where do you live, nor do I care, but my part of the world doesn't give this nonsense too much attention and it was working out just fine.
 

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Bubbles In Memoria
I got this for my wife who hasn't played a game since she was 12 and she loves it. She likes harry potter and since she doesn't play games the complexity of the game mechanics seem about right. She really likes the visuals and general vibes and loved the exploration and dress up. She is probably the intended audience and for her this game provides exactly what it needs.

Watching her play a bit on the tv i must say that they really got the visuals right besides some minor colour/lighting issues.

Well worth the 60 bucks for someone who likes HP but maybe a bit simplistic for a more seasoned gamer (although the visuals are 10 times better than your average UBI-shit openworld).
 

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I got this for my wife who hasn't played a game since she was 12 and she loves it. She likes harry potter and since she doesn't play games the complexity of the game mechanics seem about right. She really likes the visuals and general vibes and loved the exploration and dress up. She is probably the intended audience and for her this game provides exactly what it needs.
I bet 80% of the audience for this game don't even know of the controversy or anything related to it, those are people who buy a game once or twice a year, have a normal job and no time to follow hysteria about Rowling or stuff
 

Lord of Riva

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Strap Yourselves In Pathfinder: Wrath
I am surprised how much pull Harry Potter still has. From all that people have said its a rather mediocre game, but apparently, the Potter setting is enough to make people go crazy over it

I am really sure the hence and forth of "controversy" is to blame, really. Which it simply should not do, games will suffer either way, if they are a political purchase.
 

Nikanuur

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Does this game have any sort of fun "exploration"? Like in ELEX? Or is "finding stuff and places" railroaded like in Witcher 3 or Assassins Creed?
I am only at the very beginning, but let me tell you what I've encountered just few moments ago. I highly recommend switching off the minimap and the quest markers and such to have a *truer* adventure.


1. A random world conversation you may easily pass by suggests there's some riddle to the empty picture frames around Hogwarts. It may or may not come to the hint, depending on how thorough you want to be in talking to people.
2. You do that thing hinted, a picture of a part of castle appears.
3. You go looking around for that part of the castle. Not terribly hard but not an easy task either, mind you.
4. Once you get to the part, you probably won't know what to do, because there's nothing to interact with!
5. You explore around, pay enough attention, and you eventually come to the "third part" of this small exercise in riddle-exploration.
6. Now comes another fun part—figuring out what to actually do with what you've found. Again, it's not that hard, but still, you have to figure it out on your own with what spells you have. There's two-fold action from this point to complete the riddle.
7. You've done the last part and have completed the riddle-exploration; a nice XP bonus awaits you, along with a fuzzy feeling around your thoracic cage that you've solved a neat "where's Willy and what to do with him once I've found him" riddle.


Of course, you can leave the quest markers on, read the diary, have the minimap on with all the pointers and stuff, and I suppose it'll get A LOT easier and probably less fun also. But then again, maybe you want a casual experience, there's nothing wrong with that either.
 

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