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ALT + 0209 = Ñ

ALT + 0241 = ñ

You've got them backwards, OSK.
 

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I am always glad to badmouth Microsoft, really. But it seems unfair to blame on them the standard layout for keyboards, at least singularly.

Not really, it's their OS and their decision to make.

Whatever made you think it wasn't?

Keyboard layout is still the same if you install a Linux, or even a DOS. I mean the Mac OS has a unique keyboard layout, but that is because it works with its particular hardware.

Microsoft is partly to blame. Keyboard manufacturers have no reason to create keyboards with buttons that Microsoft (and Apple) don't support. No one creates Linux-specific keyboards so we just have to deal with Windows ones. My super key is mapped to my left Windows key and my compose key (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key) is mapped to my right Windows key. If Windows supported the compose key (something dating back to the 80's), it wouldn't need to rely on alt codes.

Linux:
compose + n + ~ = ñ
compose + N + ~ = Ñ

Windows:
alt + 0241 = ñ
alt + 0209 = Ñ

...

Windows:
Alt Gr + ~ + n = ñ
Alt Gr + ~ + N = Ñ
 

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Windows:
Alt Gr + ~ + n = ñ
Alt Gr + ~ + N = Ñ

International keyboards? Disgusting. AltGr and Compose aren't the same thing. I believe AltGr is language sensitive in that the same commands can create different characters depending on the language.
 

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AltGr's use seems to depend on the keyboard layout

On mine it allows to type the third character of the keys in the numbers row (and the other characters in blue)
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And the compose on windows seems to be done kinda automatically:

like if I type ^ then space: ^
But ^ then e : ê
Same with ~, ` and ¨
 

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I have options for mapping both Alt Gr and Compose:
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Alternate Characters Key is Alt Gr. It doesn't do anything on an American keyboard, but if I change my layout to UK then Alt Gr + a gives me æ. Also, the button works like a shift key where you have to hold it down for the whole sequence. With the compose key, I just press it, it shows a special character, then type a followed by e to get æ.
 

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I am always glad to badmouth Microsoft, really. But it seems unfair to blame on them the standard layout for keyboards, at least singularly.

Not really, it's their OS and their decision to make.

Whatever made you think it wasn't?

Keyboard layout is still the same if you install a Linux, or even a DOS. I mean the Mac OS has a unique keyboard layout, but that is because it works with its particular hardware.

Microsoft is partly to blame. Keyboard manufacturers have no reason to create keyboards with buttons that Microsoft (and Apple) don't support. No one creates Linux-specific keyboards so we just have to deal with Windows ones. My super key is mapped to my left Windows key and my compose key (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key) is mapped to my right Windows key. If Windows supported the compose key (something dating back to the 80's), it wouldn't need to rely on alt codes.

Linux:
compose + n + ~ = ñ
compose + N + ~ = Ñ

Windows:
alt + 0241 = ñ
alt + 0209 = Ñ
Press ˇ then c = č
ˇ + s = š

It definitely works on czech programmer (quwerty) keyboard. You probably screwed up standard when you can't type down ~ + n =
Also why can't you type shift + number and get your special character?
 

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It definitely works on czech programmer (quwerty) keyboard. You probably screwed up standard when you can't type down ~ + n =
Also why can't you type shift + number and get your special character?

Only some regional keyboards have a dead key on ~. The 7-bit English layout doesn't.
 

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Yea, but shouldn't he switch to keyboard layout that has support for ~ + key? That's far easier than buying keypad and programming it to type special characters.
 

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Yea, but shouldn't he switch to keyboard layout that has support for ~ + key? That's far easier than buying keypad and programming it to type special characters.

There's no need to buy anything with MSKLC. Just bind it to Alt Gr+-.
 

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It definitely works on czech programmer (quwerty) keyboard. You probably screwed up standard when you can't type down ~ + n =
Also why can't you type shift + number and get your special character?

Only some regional keyboards have a dead key on ~. The 7-bit English layout doesn't.

I think some keyboard settings will interpret accent marks as a character that should be inputted alone, rather than waiting for the next one. This one is also entirely Microsoft's fault, since they are the ones that programmed those settings. In particular, I remember the acute accent being inputted alone rather than waiting for the vowel if I used the us keyboard standard with a brazilian keyboard.
 

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