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I have no patience for RPGs anymore

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Silva, May 24, 2015.

  1. shihonage You see: shelter. Patron

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    I highlighted the stupid parts, one after another, until the entire post was highlighted... :negative:

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  2. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    ...and since I don't know what your idiotic point is, I don't need to respond to it. It's like you checkmated yourself. Thanks!
     
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  3. naossano Cipher

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    "There is no videogame equivalent of a documentary. Neither is there a videogame equivalent of serious artistic fiction."

    There are some games that can pretend to be serious, artistic or even prone to personal enlightment, and a very few of them that actually intend to deliver that. For some indie, the games itself is not relevant, but the artistic value should prevail. If you take a game like "Papers Please", the message is much more important than the game itself, which is pretty repetitive. It is harder to qualify a game as documentary, but some can get very close. Video-games is just a medium. You can take any initiative you want with it. The problem is that many publishers don't believe that some games can lead to enlightment, or refuse to aknowledge it for strategic reasons. Same could be said for movies in some anglo-saxon countries that considers movies as simple products while some latin countries consider them as work of art. Not only aknowledging them as art could lead to higher requirement to meet the standards, but also paying some royalties to the authors. Which wouldn't be a good move for the suits... At the other hand, not all video-games can be considered as work of art...
     
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  4. Alfons Prophet

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    Wtf does that even mean?
    What do you define as "serious artistic fiction"?
    Why do you care about the "video games are art" crowd? I have a problem with the SJW version of that idea. When shit like Dear Esther, Gone Home etc. are considered the pinnacle of art video games. Personally I have no interest in playing any "art" video games, but I am interested to see what can be done with the medium.
     
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  5. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    It means that all interactivity reduces the aesthetic dimensions of an object.
     
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  6. Alfons Prophet

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    Hmm, is that some sort of pretentious art critic babble?
     
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  7. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    Sure... (Eh, guess I replied one too many times. I always hated forums for that reason. Good night, and good luck. Signing out.)
     
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  8. T. Reich Arcane

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    What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Are you some kind of Liberal Arts major? GTFO.
     
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  9. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    What a bunch of dumb-asses. The mighty codex full of third rate tech-cunts.
     
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  10. Alfons Prophet

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    It means that all interactivity reduces the aesthetic dimensions of an object.
     
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  11. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    Now your just embarasing yourself. This video might help get you started.
     
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  12. T. Reich Arcane

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    Didn't you want to go to bed, like, 20 minutes ago or so?
    Stop embarrasing yourself already and go to bed, be a good boy.
     
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  13. Monkeysattva Arbiter

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    No problem, now that I'm sure the buthurt is real, I can sleep soundly. :kingcomrade:
     
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  14. Alfons Prophet

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    The thing that embarrasses me is that I expected an actual answer. Go back to your favourite activity dumbshit.
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  15. LeJosh Savant

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    Sorry to hear about your ADD op.
     
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  16. naossano Cipher

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    Interractivity doesn't mean less artistic. Also, movies/books etc are considered as art in some countries despite not being solid/material. Performances/Happenings also aren't materials/object, aren't the same every time the guy is doing it, and it often require the audience involvement to make the performance possible. So those can only exist with interactivity.

    At last, you don't need incredible aesthetic to be a work of art.
    See what one of my fellow countrymen did almost a century ago...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_(Duchamp)
     
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  17. Goral Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    You've basically summed up why I love Age of Decadence. It is by far the most innovative cRPG since a very, very long time, not only because of unique setting and lore but also because of non-standard approach "from zero to slightly more than zero" instead of "from zero to hero" like in most cRPGs. And even though you won't slay a dragon here the things you can do are way more memorable to me than any fight in Baldur's Gate for example. You can experience it quite early by playing as an assassin - the last mission in Teron is just superb. In Maadoran and Ganezzar there are even more epic things you can do (don't want to spoil it by giving specifics).

    But the real strength of Age of Decadence lies in its writing and combat. Quests are memorable and fresh (no fetch quests here, well maybe with one exception that has a hilarious twist at the end), characters seem to be made from flesh and blood (in my top 10 of most memorable characters in any game Age of Decadence would take most of the spots) and the plot is exquisite but to learn all the pieces you have to play for every guild. Which reminds me, I don't know another game that allows to see the same events from a different POV. Now that is awesome! What's more, combat is one of the best I've seen in any cRPG - even though you have less weapons than in Fallout 2 you can do so much more with them.
     
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  18. adddeed Liturgist Possibly Retarded

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    ^ Sounds good. Game is out or early access?
     
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  19. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    Because we don't allow it to exist. The disdain towards games as a form of art comes from it being a medium still in its infancy, in other words games can be hip and trendy but it still isn't "cool". I expect the videogame term to eventually become "interactive cinematic experiences", like comics evolved into "graphic novels" when it became cool for adults to read them.

    P.S. this may be my gayest post to date

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  20. Goral Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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  21. adddeed Liturgist Possibly Retarded

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    Sounds good. Ill wait for release, but from your description the game sounds tasty.
     
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  22. Owlish Arcane

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    For RPGs I am partial to just "Roleplaying Experience," as I coined in my review for Dragon Age: Inquisition
    https://www.amazon.com/review/RIB3PXYZZGVBK/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
     
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  23. naossano Cipher

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    Meaning ?
     
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  24. shihonage You see: shelter. Patron

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  25. Excidium II Self-Ejected

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