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I need more Eurojank like Risen and Two Worlds 2

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Curratum, Sep 26, 2020.

  1. CaffeineConquistador Learned

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    On the opposite end for my American ear it’s jarring to hearing a specific regional accent that’s intentionally subdued. There’s an NPC in KCD I swear is from Texas, or at least around the Houston area long enough to pick up a slight accent.
     
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  2. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Fun game,but not a ARPG.
     
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  3. Lord_Potato Arcane

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    Yes, Venetica's middle act is most open (as opposed to Gothics where the first act provides most freedom of choice), the beginning is mostly linear.

    I think it's worth a try for at least one playthrough, although I may replay it one day as a necromancer (finished the game as a courier/thief character).
     
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  4. Funposter Arbiter

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    It's Sir Divish with the yank accent and yeah it's fucking weird
     
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  5. V_K Arcane

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    Just like most PB titles.
     
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  6. Falksi Arcane

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    Just play Risen 2. it's fucking brilliant.
     
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  7. bec de corbin Educated

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    Play Hammer and Sickle, lol
     
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  8. Terenty Savant

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    Bold faced LIES! I believed you and installed the game yesterday and the level design is atrocious. Invisible walls galore, you can't fall off a cliff, you can't fall through a hole in the roof, you can't even jump ffs. What level design and exploration are you talking about?? And whoever said the cities are great is a fucking liar too, npcs don't have any schedules and walk around like zombies. Granted it's all based on the first 30 mins of the game, but i doubt it all suddenly changes
     
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  9. Dodo1610 Magister

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    Venetica is neither great nor bad but just a decent Action RPG that was clearly designed for the Xbox 360. Also, play it with the original german voice acting it's much better than the translation.
     
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  10. Curratum Cipher

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    Venetica is just the thing I needed! I even had it in my library already, played 4 hours at some point and forgot about it! Job done, thanks, Codex!
     
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  11. Siveon Bot

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    ITT: butthurt europeans mad about a term of endearment.

    Eurojank just mainly refers to AA, or lower, games (not just RPGs) from european countries that try to punch well above its weight. Typically the games have some of glaring flaw and lack of polish but are incredibly enjoyable for their setting, reactivity, depth, uniqueness, etc.

    Stalker, for many people Gothic, the first Witcher game, etc.

    To answer the thread, not my favorite but Kingdom Come is interesting.
     
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  12. Rincewind Educated

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    Btw, just realised that I think most people who say the Witcher 1 was janky, they must be referring to the original release. I played the Enhanced Edition and it was practically bug free and to me polished enough.
     
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  13. Curratum Cipher

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    Imagine calling Witcher 1 anything but Eurojank! :D
     
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  14. Sloul Learned

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  15. Siveon Bot

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    I think you're so lost in the eurosauce that you don't even know the common perception of polish.

    Which, honestly, is fine - polish can be overrated.
     
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  16. Rincewind Educated

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    Yeah I think that's true. As I said, the most modern RPGs I played was ELEX, Witcher 1 and Nehrim. Otherwise I just play older games (pre-2005 or so) or games from smaller studios (e.g. Banner Saga). The most recent AAA game that I played was Rise of Tomb Raider from 2013, and yeah, the graphics and animations in that one were noticeably superior to everything else I played before. But even with all the popamole shit turned off (quest markers, minimap, item highlighting, etc.) it was still a quite shallow shooter with a cringeworthy melodramatic story.

    I also didn't get why people were complaining about the graphics of the first Styx game in most reviews. To me it seemed perfectly fine.

    Btw, I found this definition, it seems quite accurate:

    Source: https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/euro-jank-whats-your-favorite-33338101/

    So basically prioritising substance over style, while being on a tight budget. But I don't think this is a USA vs Europe thing, really. I mean before the rise of the corporate AAA game industry there were plenty of interesting and innovative games beging produced in the US too, pretty much all the classic RPGs, actually. And I don't think the term makes much sense for pre-2005 RPGs because all of them were a bit janky (or rather quirky).

    So, without irony, let's say I would like to play a non-janky ARPG so I can appreciate the polish you are talking about. Which game would that be, in your opinion? (currently I'm playing Morrowind which I find quite janky, more so than the Gothics)

    We already have a list of contenders here. I just watched some Dragon Age videos and that seemed quite polished too (but so many cutscenes!).

    Fallout
    Mass Effect
    Dragon's Dogma
    Deus Ex
    Witcher 3
     
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  17. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Welcome to the club.

    Stop listening to the retards ITT. All you need for your eurojank desires are three words - Piranha Bytes, Warhorse, Spiders. You're welcome.
     
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  18. Rincewind Educated

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    That was six words, bro.
     
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  19. adddeed Liturgist Possibly Retarded

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    All of PBs games. My ranking would be Elex > Risen 2 > Risen > Gothic > Risen 3 > Gothic 2 > Gothic 3

    Divinity 2 by Larian, awesome fun.
     
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  20. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Spiders is eurojank as eurojank can get, their sthick of making a 10 hour game take 40hs, and shiet combat systems with their rolling simulators from Bound by Flame to GreedFall dont make me any happy. Warhorse isnt eurojank by any metric. Pyranha Bytes, they only have three games that I would say are eurojank games: Gothic 3, Risen 2 and 3 , their other games are pretty good.

    Even Spiders, if they werent so much obsessed into making the biggest game ever without a single penny to support that so they wouldnt need to fill their games with so much bs, they would be capable of making good games. The reality is that euro games are pretty good if: a) They arent trying to appeal to a larger audience and failing hard at it (Risen 2) or b)not biting more than they could chew to so absurd levels that the whole game suffers for it (pretty much all Spiders games and Gothic 3).

    The recent Call of Cthulhu games are examples of the typical eurojank too, they could had been so much better games if they were traditional iso rpgs or adventure games but nope, they were trying to appeal to a larger audience AND bitten more than they could chew at same time. So, trying to appeal to a larger audience while failing hard at it AND bitten more than they could chew = eurojank.
     
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  21. Rincewind Educated

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    Well, that was my idea too before people confused me in this thread... ELEX if perhaphs not exactly an AAA game, it's pretty good and "polished" enough (my biggest complaint was the lack of inventory categories). And Gothic 1-2 were perfectly fine when they were released (e.g. compared to Morrowind).
     
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  22. Rincewind Educated

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    Pretty much like Witcher 1, there's next to no verticality and you can't fall off anywhere. Still a good game.
     
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  23. Sad He-Man Educated

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    We need to go deeper.

    Rage of Mages.
     
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  24. V_K Arcane

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    The WTF part about this comment is that there's a ton of verticality in Venetica.
     
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  25. bec de corbin Educated

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    I liked Drakensang 2 a fair bit. It's a somewhat solid rtwp rpg; maybe check that out? Blackguards is also good.
     
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