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Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut I'm very into cock and ball torture
This used to be one of my favorite games but now I can't even beat the first campaign mission (you play as Gem) on the second difficulty. I think I used to be pretty decent at this game but maybe I wasn't after all - or it's just too far gone.

Do you have any tips getting started? My problems are the following:

* enemy seems to have way more troops much faster than I can generate them
* enemy seems to always spawn more heroes, taking undefended towns everywhere
* enemy never seems to run out of money

I swear I legit beat HoMM 2 campaign on the middle difficulty when I was /much/ younger but I can't seem to make any progress with this game. Do you have some advice?
 

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Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Codex Year of the Donut I'm very into cock and ball torture
It's labelled "hard"; that's the second one.

I think I spotted my problem- I thought "Shadow of Death" is the first batch of campaigns but I think that's already from an add-on, so I might be starting with something that's still too tricky for me.

This is really quite shameful, I used to be good at HoMM 2 and Fantasy General and the like.
 

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Shadow of Death is the second expansion. Restoration of Erathia is the vanilla batch. I only ever played the R. of Erathia campaigns myself (and one Heroes Chronicles) but Shadow of Death seems to be regarded as the hardest of the bunch.
 
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Learn earth magic skill. Spam magic guilds in your cities until you get town portal.

You won.

But yeah, if you can't beat HoMMIII AI on the impossible difficulty then "suck" is an euphemism.
 

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I wish I could help, but the game is so easy, I wouldn't know where to start.
 
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Well, it was mainly that I was playing the wrong campaign! Restoration of Erathia looks like a breeze.
 

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I actually always thought Shadow of Death was the easiest of all the campaigns, and when I first played HoMM3 I already had all two expansions.
 

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HoMMIII campaigns are piss easy due to hero transfer. Even if the maximum level is hardlocked you can quickly get ridiculous stats by visiting places and gather a vast collection of spells thus turning the game into a rapetrain where you are the driver.
 

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Play Restoration of Erathia campaigns and train yourself some.

Always left 1 hero near your capital to defend it and dont let him go far from it. Take nearby weekly resources with him always.
Get 1 main hero to travel land and conquer, supply him with troops as needed. Try not to lose any men attacking trash guardians.
If you start near water, get in it and collect everything asap, since most of them are unguarded you can do this with a side kick.
Your heroes travel faster if their army is fast, as long as you have golems or ogre kind of mosters you'll travel more slowly, best scouts are beastmasters with dragonflies.
Try to get lots of wood and ore at first weeks, campfires and wagons help
At first week try to get first 5 levels of creature dwellings(dont upgrade yet) then castle and then capitol.
Leave some weak troops or buy from dwellings when you capture a castle to avoid its getting recaptured by enemy again.
 

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At first week try to get first 5 levels of creature dwellings(dont upgrade yet) then castle and then capitol.
:lol: You're now giving "advice" for normal/easy, which requires advice only if you're both physically and mentally handicapped.
 

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I remember trying to complete HOMM I and, say what you want, but I couldn't do it.

In later levels, enemy hero's would come to my castle so fast with their huge hordes that they swiped the floor with me.
And that level where you had to find that thing in one certain spot was a nightmare.
 

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That 'thing' is how experienced players mop the floor with multiplayer newbies who don't know that the game is over when the grail is found. It's borderline cheating.
 

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Actually, I found the grail, but by using autosave, and by cheating without using cheats :D

No, but seriously, first HOMM is fucked up with it's master AI.
 
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Actually, I found the grail, but by using autosave, and by cheating without using cheats :D

No, but seriously, first HOMM is fucked up with it's master AI.

Nope, I breezed through the campaign with the Knight (and Knight sucks, it's the worst of the bunch). And I suck as a player of tactical and strategy games.
 

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:lol: You're now giving "advice" for normal/easy, which requires advice only if you're both physically and mentally handicapped.


You'd be suprised how many of "good" players easly fuck up base building and only have 4-5 unupgraded T5 units at the end of first month, most of them haven't even built T6 dwellings :/
 

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I remember trying to complete HOMM I and, say what you want, but I couldn't do it.

In later levels, enemy hero's would come to my castle so fast with their huge hordes that they swiped the floor with me.
And that level where you had to find that thing in one certain spot was a nightmare.
You know you don't lose the game just because you lose one castle?
 

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Restoration of Erathia is almost too easy to learn the game properly with. Half the missions they literally just have Angels and Archangels standing around waiting to join your army.
 

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You'd be suprised how many of "good" players easly fuck up base building and only have 4-5 unupgraded T5 units at the end of first month, most of them haven't even built T6 dwellings :/
Like I said, what you wrote refers to easy/normal difficulty, where the impact of initial buildup and creeping is basically 0, you have enough money for literally everything and even going hurr durr clicking stuff in random order will see you having everything done by end of wk2, with the possible exception of tier7 upgrade and higher levels of magic guild.

That's why you have to be literally :retarded: to not manage at that level.

That's also exactly why HoMMII is more difficult and has better economy - getting gold is a bit of a challenge there, even on normal.
 

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Amusingly enough I finished HoMM 2 by myself years ago without too much trouble.

Now that I figured it that Rest. of Erathia is the proper "first' set of missions it really is too easy. But that's okay; Shadows seems a lot harder and I don't mind playing some easier stuff to learn what all the stuff does again. It's been a while and I am not nearly as experienced with HoMM 3 than I am with HoMM 2 - I love 2 so much; especially the art and music.
 

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Never finished HoMM3 campaigns. Got bored pretty quickly.
However, I'd recommend you to play some random maps and try different tactics/heroes/towns and learn how to play before rushing into campaign mode.
For example, over the years Necropolis + Levelled-up Moandor + Liches proved to be my best tactic.
Of course, it degrades to:
Build Mausoleum > Upgrade Mausoleum > Upgrade Moandor > Build more Liches > Fuck everyone.
Or:
Capture Necropolis > Get Moandor > Build/Upgrade Mausoleum > Build more Liches > Fuck everyone.

I mean, find your own tactic for each city before going anywhere.
 

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So, Guys....how the motherfuck is it even remotely possible to beat that one expansion campaign with the literally hundreds of azure dragons that need to be killed, each particular dragon being a one-unit army and having a thousand hitpoints? Gratuitous abuse of the berserk spell?
 

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