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is immersion important for you?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by eli, Jan 15, 2021.

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is immersion important for you?

  1. yes, a necessary part of my experience

    57 vote(s)
    50.9%
  2. I can have a good experience without a focus on it

    22 vote(s)
    19.6%
  3. I can have a good experience without it having a significant presence

    11 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. I can have a good experience without it

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. no, I don't like immersion taking priority over other elements of a game

    13 vote(s)
    11.6%
  1. Gregz Arcane

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    No immersion, no game.
     
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  2. Inhabitants of Khorinis Literate

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    Immersion is overrated and a gateway drug to escapism. Escapism is for losers.
    Then again, I never experienced what most people describe as immersion so as far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist.
     
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  3. eXalted Prophet

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    Let's first define what is an RPG ans the difference between simulation and immersion in one.
     
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  4. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    User= "Inhabitants of Khorinis"

    :codexisfor:
     
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  5. Momock Savant

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    Nope.
    Immersion is having a stong interest (or even feeling concerned) about what's happening on the screen.
    Escapism is self-inserting yourself into the MC to "live" a surrogative existence (probably because yours is shit).

    The no-immershun crowd are either clinicaly diagnosable psychopaths or try hard "I'm not a pussy!" faggots. Anybody with empathy feels immersion.
     
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  6. Xelocix Educated

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    Why would anybody continue to play a singleplayer game if you don't care about immersion? Repeating the same gameplay loops alone with no purpose is autistic as fuck. That's what multiplayer games are for.

    If you'd rather just focus on fun gameplay and don't give a damn about storytelling/worldbuilding then why not play something with your friends instead?
     
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  7. Onionguy Educated

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    Thief and Stalker games are first that come to mind when I think about the term. Haven't played anything even remotely as immersive since.
     
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  8. Pompey Literate

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    I don't know because Immersion™ is a now a buzzword used by game devs.
     
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  9. IThinkTheWorldShouldBurn. Novice

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    ..But this is EXACTLY the point and difference between our type of player and your type of player......... We're selective about the kinds of drivel we accept from some retard, whereas you aren't even aware that there is a difference and don't care as long as you can shoot something in the face.

    Tell me.. what is considered more important in our society, our broad history of magnificent fiction.. or instruction manuals?
     
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  10. Crispy Don't get old. Undisputed Queen of Faggotry

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    I'm just as immersed into an RPG when I'm in the middle of a huge bugbear fight in ToEE as I am when I'm sneaking around in a dungeon in Skyrim.

    If you have trouble assuming the role of your character(s) in computer RPGs, then the problem may not be with the game. Let your autism consume you.
     
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  11. Tyrr Educated

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    It's the new "cinematic experience". They just don't want to sell you 30fps, but bad game mechanics.
     
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  12. TemplarGR Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Bethestard

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    Autism is the opposite of immersion. Autistic people typically can't immerse themselves because they can't use imagination like we normies can. Autistic people play CRPGs strictly for their mechanics. They are typically the people who complain about games like Skyrim because they can't get immersed in them anyway and the mechanics aren't autistic enough for them. Autistic people prefer convoluted/complex isometric crpgs and they don't care if they don't have good graphics/ audio, voice acting, etc they don't see the lack of immersive aspects as a downside. They are the people who play shit like Kenshi for example.
     
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  13. Crispy Don't get old. Undisputed Queen of Faggotry

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    I'll take your word for it.
     
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  14. TheHeroOfTime Arcane

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    Immersion is what you feel when listening this







     
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  15. gurugeorge Magister

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    If you can get into a novel or a movie, you can get into a game in the same way. Games reach heights of immersion more rarely than movies or books, but the type of immersion you can get from games is unique, and in a way more piquant than either in books or movies, in that (with the best games and the best quests) you end up in the position you are in due to your own choices, which have shaped the story (at least to some extent), and those choices are recent in your memory (just like they'd be in real life).

    Also if you can find yourself tearing up a bit reading a novel, the same thing can happen with a videogame. I'll never forget one particular quest in Dragon Age, one of the country elves quests, where you have to thread a very narrow path to get to a certain result where the quest is resolved peacefully and the antagonist sees the error of their ways and feels remorse. You get the same poignant music and voice-acting as you'd get in a movie, and it's a decent enough puppet show if you suspend disbelief, but in the game it's you who has changed that persons mind by persuasion and delicate argument, and stopped generations of bloodshed, not just "you" in the sense of identifying with a character, but you in the sense of being the one who's lived through time and made those decisions, fought through hordes of enemies to get there, etc.

    Those sorts of "peak moments" in videogames don't happen that often, where the developer's art all comes together to a point, but they're worth their weight in gold when they do happen, because it's literally a new and different kind of art form.
     
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  16. Crispy Don't get old. Undisputed Queen of Faggotry

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  17. gurugeorge Magister

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    lol, I wouldn't draw the contrast quite so harshly, because I think you have to be at least a bit on the spectrum to enjoy videogames at all - but yes, there's more and less macho among nerds, more and less emotional, and more and less autistic.

    More macho nerds play PvP; more emotional nerds are storyfags, and the pure number crunchers are more autistic.
     
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  18. Serious_Business Best Poster on the Codex

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    Indeed mein Freund. I must be immersed in shit constantly to have a good experience. It is quite mandatory. So much indeed, that one could say that without this immersion in fecal matter, experience would not be possible at all. Perhaps experience, immersion and shit are the same concept after all
     
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  19. flushfire Augur

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    Yes I guess, if some semblance of reality and internal consistency are part of this 'immersion'. It's the reason I find it hard to get into jrpgs.
     
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  20. NJClaw I'm single now, looking for a new forum boyfriend Patron

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  21. Efe Liturgist

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    realism isnt needed but consistency is paramount.
     
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  22. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    immersion doesn't exist if you're allowed to control more than one character
     
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  23. Crispy Don't get old. Undisputed Queen of Faggotry

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    Yeah, if you've ever made more than one character in D&D then you CHEATED!

    Also, if he or she died in the game, why aren't you dead IRL?
     
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  24. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    I'm glad we're in agreement that Fallout perfected the roleplaying RPG game genre.
     
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  25. NJClaw I'm single now, looking for a new forum boyfriend Patron

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    I'm in full-immersion mode when I play Icewind Dale and Icewind Dale 2. You can try to experience a story through the eyes of multiple characters.
     
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