I've finally learned to appreciate Gothic.

[MpuMngwana]

For me Gothic 1 is better than Gothic 2 because it is a more even experience. Sure, having to go through the Sleeper temple twice is tedious, but it takes, like, 30 minutes of your time. It's not that bad.

On the other hand, I consider Gothic 2's three chapters (and the expansion area) better than Gothic 1, but after that it drops the ball and drops it hard. First you have to fight your way through hundreds of Orcs, than fight four nearly identical dragon bossfights. Then there is a brief respite as you gather your allies for the final chapter, after which you have to fight your way through thousands of Orcs, tens of thousands of Lizardmen, yet another nearly identical dragon boss, then you reach an abandoned temple (not even the nameless hero is happy about this development, muttering something to the tone of 'not this shit again' to himself) where you have to fight your way through hundreds of thousands of undead, before reaching, you guessed it, yet another nearly identical dragon boss. All of it is just extremely tedious, takes much longer than the Gothic 1 endgame and, to add insult to injury, the most efficient way of dealing with dragons is cheesing them by summoning demons.

It is a shame, but I consider second half of Gothic 2 to be the biggest quality drop in a Piranha Bytes game, much worse than the infamous Risen 1 late game.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I mean, you can argue about the best of PB games for ages, but New Camp and it's clones>Swamp Camp and it's clones>Old camp bitches.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

I mean, you can argue about the best of PB games for ages, but New Camp and it's clones>Swamp Camp and it's clones>Old camp bitches.

It's exactly the other way round, my friend from the East, and you know it!

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I mean, you can argue about the best of PB games for ages, but New Camp and it's clones>Swamp Camp and it's clones>Old camp bitches.

It's exactly the other way round, my friend from the East, and you know it!

Oh, right, other way around: Old Camp bitches< Swamp Camp and it's clones< New Camp and it's clones.

 

[toro]

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Look at these noobs preferring Gothic over Gothic 2:

https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/archive/index.php/t-52567.html

I guess you are objectively blind to opinions which don't match yours.

 

[Ruslan]

I really hated Gothic the first time I played it, which was only a couple of years ago. The controls completely threw me off. Made me feel like a 70 year old man attempting to play a video game for the first time and not understanding how to use a keyboard.

In a weird way, it actually reminds me of Arcanum (or at least my experience with Arcanum) in that the one major disappointment is the extremely off-putting, ass-janky combat that's actively trying to prevent you from enjoying the rest of the game. After a few hours, you kind of forget about it though - partially because you get used to it, partially because the combat stops sucking so much once you gain a few levels (and stop taking mid-battle naps in the case of Arcanum). Even though I've learnt to love Gothic in subsequent playthroughs, I think I still lack the Central European heritage necessary to appreciate it to the extent that it deserves.

 

[curds]

I mean, you can argue about the best of PB games for ages, but New Camp and it's clones>Swamp Camp and it's clones>Old camp bitches.

Old Camp is home, wtf are you talking about?!?

 

[curds]

Also Ruslan, Gothic has bloody fantastic controls. Just forget about your mouse.

 

[nyjsu]

Honestly more games should implement controls similar to Gothic, they felt really natural after you got used to them.

 

[Daze]

G1: new camp>old camp>swamp camp
G2: mercs>paladins>mages

R1: bandits>mages>inquisition
R2: natives>inquisition
R3: demon hunters>mages>natives

ELEX: outlaws>berserkers>clerics

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

G1: Old Camp > Swamp Camp > New Camp
G2: Mages > Paladins > Mercs
G3: Rebels > Nordmar > Woodfolk > Nomads > Assassins > Orcs

R1: Mages > Inquisition > Bandits
R2: Fuck R2
R3: Mages > Demon Hunters > Natives

ELEX: Berserkers > Clerics > Outlaws

 

[JarlFrank]

G1: Old Camp > New Camp > Swamp Camp
G2: Paladins > Mercs > Mages
G3: Rebels > Nordmar > Assassins > Orcs

R1: Bandits > Inquisition > Mages
R2 and R3: don't remember R2 enough, didn't play R3

ELEX: Berserkers > Clerics > Outlaws