KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

[Pink Eye]

Here's what the tutorial dungeon looks like, if you're curious:

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The level is pretty fun to play. Dialogue is pretty hard to read through. This in particular made me wince in pain.

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It could have been better...

 

[Tweed]

Seems like he's really gone head over heels with isometric.

 

[Mortmal]

Seems like he's really gone head over heels with isometric.

Could be worse i almost expected to see a boob slider when seeing the 3D models, almost....

Well ...that's all nice and dandy to see pierre having fun redesigning the game from scratch,spending time on cosmetics instead of just replacing fugly tokens with better token art. It doesnt look half bad however i remember seeing "KotC 2 + Three Adventure Modules" in my pledge ,i paid good money for it .
So when the fuck is he going to start working on this ?

 

[Tweed]

Could be worse i almost expected to see a boob slider when seeing the 3D models, almost....

Well ...that's all nice and dandy to see pierre having fun redesigning the game from scratch,spending time on cosmetics instead of just replacing fugly tokens with better token art. It doesnt look half bad however i remember seeing "KotC 2 + Three Adventure Modules" in my pledge ,i paid good money for it .
So when the fuck is he going to start working on this ?

Very good question considering how much revision and work has already gone into trying to balance Augury and it's not done.

 

[NJClaw]

It doesnt look half bad however i remember seeing "KotC 2 + Three Adventure Modules" in my pledge ,i paid good money for it .

First, he needs to win his first module without cheats. Which means we will never see the other two.

 

[Tweed]

I get that he needed to rework Augury before release or else it's going to get completely shredded by normies. You can count the number of people who finished 1.0/1.1 on two hands, but the cosmetics can wait.

 

[Mortmal]

I get that he needed to rework Augury before release or else it's going to get completely shredded by normies. You can count the number of people who finished 1.0/1.1 on two hands, but the cosmetics can wait.

Yes even games like pathfinder get 7.6% completion rate,according what i read on my steam page, can be obtained on any dififculty, and its not nearly as hard even on higher difficulties . I suspect kotc2 on steam will have 0.1% completion from rpg enthusiasts, and indeed completely shredded by normies, i am not joking at all.

Reworking everything that seems completely absurd batshit crazy very coherent with pierre's usual behavior , buying some artist license and just replacing tokens should not cost so much . And get to work asap on something i paid for.

 

[Jvegi]

It could get some recognition, even sales. Maybe it's naive, but in 2009 KotC was visually too far away from "rpgs" like Mass Effect, and the indie scene wasn't normalized yet. Hence its extreme obscurity. Nowadays people are more forgiving of non AAA presentation and can stomach more with the promise of good gameplay.

It has to be playable though. I don't know if it is, I have not played it. I backed it, but I think I'll wait for the release+patches before I dive in.

 

[Cryomancer]

owadays people are more forgiving of non AAA presentation and can stomach more with the promise of good gameplay.

Because after a lot of AWFUL AAA RPG's, like Failout 4/76, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda and so on, indies got a lot of relevance.

 

[Mortmal]

It could get some recognition, even sales. Maybe it's naive, but in 2009 KotC was visually too far away from "rpgs" like Mass Effect, and the indie scene wasn't normalized yet. Hence its extreme obscurity. Nowadays people are more forgiving of non AAA presentation and can stomach more with the promise of good gameplay.

It has to be playable though. I don't know if it is, I have not played it. I backed it, but I think I'll wait for the release+patches before I dive in.

More forgiving ? Look at solasta , read reddit, or even the codex its not looking good enough for the mainstream, despite looking fantastic to me. Only a very small crowd of gamer enthusiasts are forviging enough for a game that look like solasta, the crowd shrink drastically for something looking like KOTC2 even with the revamp.

 

[Cryomancer]

crowd shrink drastically for something looking like KOTC2 even with the revamp

With revamp, the graphics can look like ToEE, right? I believe that RPG enthusiasts can get used to ToEE graphics.

 

[Ontopoly]

Could be worse i almost expected to see a boob slider when seeing the 3D models, almost....

Well ...that's all nice and dandy to see pierre having fun redesigning the game from scratch,spending time on cosmetics instead of just replacing fugly tokens with better token art. It doesnt look half bad however i remember seeing "KotC 2 + Three Adventure Modules" in my pledge ,i paid good money for it .
So when the fuck is he going to start working on this ?

But did you actually ever expect to get what you paid for? I'm still surprised that I got anything.

 

[Mortmal]

Could be worse i almost expected to see a boob slider when seeing the 3D models, almost....

Well ...that's all nice and dandy to see pierre having fun redesigning the game from scratch,spending time on cosmetics instead of just replacing fugly tokens with better token art. It doesnt look half bad however i remember seeing "KotC 2 + Three Adventure Modules" in my pledge ,i paid good money for it .
So when the fuck is he going to start working on this ?

But did you actually ever expect to get what you paid for? I'm still surprised that I got anything.

Yes i am expecting to get what i paid for , we've seen more ambitious stuff succeeding on kickstarter, delivering more than expected, best exemple being solasta and kingmaker, but there's many more. Seems i am the only one worried , the few guys still answering on discord are happy as expected, i am not .He's spending time on useless stuff, cause no this wont look as good as TOE , and nowhere near the graphic level entry for mainstream.Tried the character creation it doesnt cover nearly enough stuff , no way to get a centaur or mantis model. Whats the point then ? A mitch match garbage of 3D models, 2D sprites , fugly tokens ?

 

[Kruno]

When will this be sold on Steam/GoG already?

 

[Tweed]

At first glance the tokens are ugly, but I adjusted to them and I find them to be fine. While isometric is cool and all it's still not going to win that many people over for what's a hardcore tactical combat rpg, it can wait. The tabletop module appearance works and it's simple. I'm more interested in the new modules at this point and I have a morbid curiosity for what Pierre is going to do for an encore after the rapefest that was Augury.

 

[Pink Eye]

I hope Forces of Chaos comes out during my life time. It sounds like an epic module.

 

[Mortmal]

I hope Forces of Chaos comes out during my life time. It sounds like an epic module.

Tiaval supposed to ask pierre about it, better to ask him to worry about the modules right now than wait for the 2022 release and discover with "surprise" nothing was done.

 

[Pink Eye]

Look. This is pretty nice! You can now call upon the forces of good to support you in this fight.

I don't think I need it though. With level advantage you get from new prologue it should be easy to do the fight.

 

[Cryomancer]

If the game is easily moddable, which campaign should I make?

A ) You play as a glantri nobleman in a campaign all about doing experiments on drunk manlets, killing then and reanimating then to serve as undead slaves

B ) You play as a dark lord on the realms of dread, with a nasty curse

C ) Magocracy VS Teocracy ethernal conflict.

D ) Test of the warlords style "tame the wilderness"

E ) Harsh survival setting in a freezing world.

F ) Naval heavy campaiogn.

 

[Dorateen]

If the game is easily moddable, which campaign should I make?

E ) Harsh survival setting in a freezing world.

Icewind Dale type adventure in KotC2, I would love that.

 

[Pink Eye]

>If the game is easily moddable, which campaign should I make?
Ravenloft. Do Ravenloft. Pick a single dungeon from either Strahd's Possession or Stone Prophet (Prefer Stoner Prophet, its level design is far better); then base your entire module on that one singular dungeon.

A short well made level triumphs a long module.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

If the game is easily moddable, which campaign should I make?

Whatever the fuck you want, why even ask?

 

[Tweed]

If the game is easily moddable, which campaign should I make?

A ) You play as a glantri nobleman in a campaign all about doing experiments on drunk manlets, killing then and reanimating then to serve as undead slaves

B ) You play as a dark lord on the realms of dread, with a nasty curse

C ) Magocracy VS Teocracy ethernal conflict.

D ) Test of the warlords style "tame the wilderness"

E ) Harsh survival setting in a freezing world.

F ) Naval heavy campaiogn.

Z) Kobolds conquer the world.

 

[Cryomancer]

want, why even ask?

Because I wanna more suggestions and feedback about my ideas before spending time in a project. And no, I an not promising a module. I need to get the game and study the engine first.

 

[Sacibengala]

There's a LOT of great modules for ttrpg to draw inspiration from. The OSR stuff is a sight to behold. Megadungeons included.