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Late to the party: Just finished Fallout 3

Azael

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So, I finally sat down and decided to give Bethesda's take on my beloved Fallout franchise a shot. I must say, it was better than I had expected. Compared to their latest game, Bethesda has improved. Oblivion bored me to tears, Fallout 3 not so much. It has a lot of stupid moments and combat pretty much sucks, but it could be a lot worse. Won't bother going into details, since the game has been discussed to death already. One thing though, what happened to the hundred of endings they talked about before the release? Didn't get any endings for the different locations I visited, unless they count those snapshots of NPCs that they showed during Ron Perlman's speech as ending slides.
 

MetalCraze

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How do you please a codexer:

1. Do a mediocre game.
2. Do a game so bad that it will instantly become a set of memes.
3. Do a less bad game than the previous one. While still shit Codex will enjoy eating it because you are "improving"

Fact.
 

Chefe

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Wrong.

Morrowind may have been medicre in the game play department, but it had great lore and some very interesting locations. As for Fallout 3, everyone thinks it's bad. It's an improvement over Oblivion, you cannot deny that, but no one on the Codex is happy how it turned out. Pointing out a fact doesn't mean you enjoy it or agree with it.
 

Black

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Compared to their latest game, Bethesda has improved.
Amazing.
Well, not exactly because oblivion was at the bottom so you couldn't get any lower and therefore saying that they improved in comparison to oblivion kinda doesn't say anything but hey, let's be positive.
 

Vault Dweller

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skyway said:
How do you please a codexer:

1. Do a mediocre game.
2. Do a game so bad that it will instantly become a set of memes.
3. Do a less bad game than the previous one. While still shit Codex will enjoy eating it because you are "improving"

Fact.
How do you please a skyway?

Trick question. A skyway can't be pleased.
 

Azael

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There are plenty of games that are a lot worse than Oblivion and there are plenty of games that are a lot better than Fallout 3.

As a Fallout game, it fails on very many accounts. As a post-apocalyptic first person CRPG, it's not a complete failure even for all its flaws it was a passable experience. The end was just plain horrid though. So the supermutant whom you rescued from captivity and who is immune to radiation doesn't want to save the world because he thinks it your destiny to die? Thanks a lot buddy, now get in there before I blast your kneecaps off!

V.A.T.S. is retarded, it doesn't emulate turnbased combat at all and at best feels like a built in cheat mode, especially once you get the level 20 perk that restores all your action points if you kill an enemy in combat.

Speaking of which, I hit level 20 pretty damn early in the game, making combat and the god damn lockpicking and hacking mini-games even more pointless time sinks. At least with lockpicking I found a cheat that gives you a 100% chance to force locks open, saving me some time. Mini-games can be OK when they're not forced upon you, clearly not the case here.

The character system is completely broken, with the fucking bobbleheads and the perks that let you raise your stat points you'll most likely end up with someone maxed out in at least all relevant skills.

Silly weapons like the Rock-it-launcher...

Bad dialogue, where the [intelligence] answer many times feel dumber, or at least exactly the same, as the regular response.

Three fucking dog


OK, better?
 

Hobo Elf

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Major_Boobage said:
Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!

No it isn't. It's fucking shit as a FPS or any other kind of action game for that matter.
 

Chefe

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Azael said:
There are plenty of games that are a lot worse than Oblivion and there are plenty of games that are a lot better than Fallout 3.

As a Fallout game, it fails on very many accounts. As a post-apocalyptic first person CRPG, it's not a complete failure even for all its flaws it was a passable experience. The end was just plain horrid though. So the supermutant whom you rescued from captivity and who is immune to radiation doesn't want to save the world because he thinks it your destiny to die? Thanks a lot buddy, now get in there before I blast your kneecaps off!

V.A.T.S. is retarded, it doesn't emulate turnbased combat at all and at best feels like a built in cheat mode, especially once you get the level 20 perk that restores all your action points if you kill an enemy in combat.

Speaking of which, I hit level 20 pretty damn early in the game, making combat and the god damn lockpicking and hacking mini-games even more pointless time sinks. At least with lockpicking I found a cheat that gives you a 100% chance to force locks open, saving me some time. Mini-games can be OK when they're not forced upon you, clearly not the case here.

The character system is completely broken, with the fucking bobbleheads and the perks that let you raise your stat points you'll most likely end up with someone maxed out in at least all relevant skills.

Silly weapons like the Rock-it-launcher...

Bad dialogue, where the [intelligence] answer many times feel dumber, or at least exactly the same, as the regular response.

Three fucking dog


OK, better?

beating_a_dead_horse.jpg
 

Syraxith

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So if Vault 101 in the experiment was never supposed to open again, than why did they let Liam Neeson and his rat in?

So many fucking plot holes.

edit: Unless I missed something.
 

Vault Dweller

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Hobo Elf said:
Major_Boobage said:
Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!

No it isn't. It's fucking shit as a FPS or any other kind of action game for that matter.
If you say so. You sound like a very knowledgeable guy, so you probably know what you're talking about.
 

Vibalist

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Good game. I encountered a bug that fucked up the slaver quest and didn't have the patience to go all the way back, but the 20+ hours I put into it were well spent.

I love Fallout 3. Some things could be better, the world could be more responsive to your reputation, but all in all, it got many, many things right. I personally think it had the Fallout feel to it, the combat and VATS was fun, treking through DC and the Wasteland was great, and the quests were very well made. The main story also wasn't a "RUSH OUT AND DO IT BEFORE THE WORLD ENDS" type of thing like in Oblivion, so it made sense to explore on your own.

I was positively surprised by it.
 

Luzur

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i could have kinda enjoyed it more if it didnt have the "Fallout 3" on it and didnt have any connections at all with the Fallout franschise.

that is what i feel is the real shitty part about it.

and 3-Dog.
 
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Vault Dweller said:
Hobo Elf said:
Major_Boobage said:
Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!

No it isn't. It's fucking shit as a FPS or any other kind of action game for that matter.
If you say so. You sound like a very knowledgeable guy, so you probably know what you're talking about.

Errr...you aren't actually defending it's merits as an action game are you? I mean, it did a few things right, but that was not one of them.
 

Jim Cojones

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Major_Boobage said:
Its a bad bad bad game, horrible main quest for starters.

Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!
You've probably meant 1st person action game (or you're just posting some random bulshit without having any knowledge about the game). 3rd person perspective is completely unplayable because you don't shoot where you aim and you have to watch these crappy animations. And, whether bad or good, Fo3 is an (action) RPG.

Edit:
or you're just posting some random bullshit without having any knowledge about the game
Major_Boobage wrote
No, it's impossible. Such a respectable poster would never do that.
 

Vault Dweller

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Edward_R_Murrow said:
Vault Dweller said:
Hobo Elf said:
Major_Boobage said:
Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!

No it isn't. It's fucking shit as a FPS or any other kind of action game for that matter.
If you say so. You sound like a very knowledgeable guy, so you probably know what you're talking about.

Errr...you aren't actually defending it's merits as an action game are you?
Am I?
 

Major_Boobage

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Jim Cojones said:
Major_Boobage said:
Its a bad bad bad game, horrible main quest for starters.

Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!
You've probably meant 1st person action game (or you're just posting some random bulshit without having any knowledge about the game). 3rd person perspective is completely unplayable because you don't shoot where you aim and you have to watch these crappy animations. And, whether bad or good, Fo3 is an (action) RPG.

Edit:
or you're just posting some random bullshit without having any knowledge about the game
Major_Boobage wrote
No, it's impossible. Such a respectable poster would never do that.

Yes i meant 1th person, a mistake. It happens to the best of us.

FO3 is an action shooter with a little RPG influence sauce over it. It's okay as enjoyable for a while in that aspect. It's not a great game in any gameuniverse.
 

Helton

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Vault Dweller said:
Edward_R_Murrow said:
Vault Dweller said:
Hobo Elf said:
Major_Boobage said:
Its okay as a 3th person action game, SO THiS post is in the wrong forum!

No it isn't. It's fucking shit as a FPS or any other kind of action game for that matter.
If you say so. You sound like a very knowledgeable guy, so you probably know what you're talking about.

Errr...you aren't actually defending it's merits as an action game are you?
Am I?

Aren't you?
 

Chefe

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Azael said:
Chefe said:
http://coreygilmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg[img][/quote]

Really? I had no idea...[/quote]

Awesome. Well, now you know!
 

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