Erebus said:
Pretty much nothing. You can climb back onto the balcony and proceed with the gungrabbing.
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Completed Let's play: The Shivah (Finished)
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Pretty much nothing. You can climb back onto the balcony and proceed with the gungrabbing.
poocolator
Erudite
Erebus said:
Checked this again, you can't grab the gun - when you click the option, Stone says Zelig's too far and he can't reach it.
That is correct.
Anyway, folks, since most of you (6 out of 10) voted for rabbinical judgement of Zelig, here's what happens:
Mazel Tov indeed, rabbi Zelig.
He didn't utter a sound. He merely looked at me with that knowing smirk on his face. Then he disappeared into the cold, Manhattan skyline
Rabbi Stone has just left the building!
And we're back...
in the synagogue.
The weeks sped by. Jack's bestowal arrived in the mail, and I was able to appease all my debts. I kept waiting for the police to knock on my door again, but they seem to have forgotten all about me. Amos Zelig's death was, ironically, ruled as a suicide. Has anything changed for me? Not really. Back to the grind. (stop playing MMOs then, fool) Another week, another Shabbos
Debts still pile up, but it won't be a problem as long as Jack's money holds. After that... it's best not to think about it.
That's it folks! Congratulations, you managed to lead Rabbi Stone to an 'ok' ending - it's not the worst one you can get, but it's definitely not the best either.
As promised, later I will post a bonus update with all the other endings, I'll probably do it on friday, so stay tuned.
Also, as a reward for finishing the game, we're given a list of audio recordings containing bloopers from the voice actors, just how cool is that?
Also, I think it's no surprise that Rabbi Stone is voiced by a guy named ABE GOLDFARB
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Manhattan's a dangerous place, I suppose.
Stereotypical Villain
Arcane
ghostdog said:
His stab wounds healed while he walked over to Rabbi Z's place.
Dumbed down health regeneration shit boring banal biowareish shit with boring sprinkles.
... I can't wait to see the alternate endings.
LusciousPear
Savant
This was incredibly gripping. I actually learned about Judaism. What a great game and great LP! MOAR
You know, in the options menu you can turn on something called Kibbitz mode
Wonder if that'll do anyth...
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT THING
Hi guys, I'm Dave Gilbert...
Oh... Well then, that's some silly dev commentary mode then, screw it.
And that's all folks. Thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed it!
Wonder if that'll do anyth...
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT THING
Oh... Well then, that's some silly dev commentary mode then, screw it.
As promised, here are all the other endings:
Showing mercy to Zelig.
Jack's bestowal arrived and my debt collectors were satisfied for the time being. Amos Zelig was picked up by the police, after an anonymous tip told them what lay in his Upper East Side appartment. Then I received a visitor...
You're JOKING.
I told you I'd be back.
I attacked HIM?
That's what he's saying. Held him against the balcony and threatened to throw him off?
He had a GUN.
That nobody can find...
What about mrs Lauder?
Yeah, what ABOUT mrs Lauder? It's a mighty strony coincidence that that particular body was found at the scene, eh?
It wasn't like that! Amos Zelig is a murderer! A lowlife!
Sure he is. And I'm sure you have witnesses to back you up on this?
... I can explain everything.
I bet you can. Come with me and you can 'explain' down at the station.
I don't believe this...
It just proves the old axiom right. "No good deed goes unpunished". Jack's money should cover my legal fees, I just hope there's some left over when this is finished
Now, we show mercy to DeMarco:
The train clattered off into the flickering distance, and Joe DeMarco remained unconcious, but alive.
Perhaps you still have some purpose to fill. I've done all I can, the rest is up to God.
We know what happens here.
BLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLABLA UPDATED MY JOURNAL.
Why do you want to do this, Rabbi Zelig?
When suddenly...
JOE EX MACHINA.
ZELIG! You! You son of a...
DeMarco, you IDIOT! It's not enough you bungle your assignment. You show up HERE? Did anyone follow you?
I want my money!
You want what you deserve? Fine.
What? Are you going to say he didn't deserve it?
I took a quick glance at Rajshree. I couldn't help but think a close call had been made.
He certainly served his purpose.
Now move, all this bloodshed sickens me
Short-term memory evil rabbi ftw.
Now, we throw him off:
He didn't utter a sound. He merely looked at me with that knowing smirk on his face. Then he disappeared into the cold, Manhattan skyline
She looked at me with downcast eyes. I quickly untied her.
So it's over?
It's over, mrs Lauder. Your husband's murdered is dead.
That was... How did... how did you do that?
It had to be done. Let's go.
Rabbi Stone... Nobody knows this happened, the police don't know we're here. I don't want to be questioned about this. And I think... I think... I think you need to stay away from me. Whatever you felt you needed to do, it's done, there's no changing it. I appreciate all you've done, but there's a darkness in you (AN ECHO IN THE FORCE @_@ ) that I just don't want in my life. Jack wouldn't want it, and neither do I.
I understand, let's get going.
And the ending is the same as throwing him over without letting Joe go.
Let's knock the old git out.
Her eyes shined with relief. I quickly untied her.
So it's over?
It's over mrs Lauder. We'll leave Rabbi Zelig for the police.
You're... you're hurt! You're bleeding all over!
It'll be okay, mrs Lauder.
Okay? You were SHOT
It's all right. Let's just get out of here.
Well, all right. If you say so. Are you SURE you are okay?
I'm fine, mrs Lauder.
Call me Raj, please. After all this, I think you deserve it. But we're going to the hospital, and no argument.
... Sure
Happy rabbi is happy ^____^
The weeks sped by. Jack's bestowal arrived in the mail, and I was able to appease all my debts. Thanks to an anonymous tip, the police picked up Amos Zelig before he regained conciousness. He even tried to tell them that I attacked him, but thankfully, Rajshree testified on my behalf. Back to the grind. Another week, another Shabbos. Debts still pile up, but it won't be a problem as long as Jack's money holds. After that... it's best not to think about it.
Is it only in the aftermath of pain that we're justified in questioning God's fairness? Just how much pain must occur to legitimately raise the question "Why do bad things happen to good people?".
Just how much pain...
Then it hit me
God might not seem fair, we may not always feel connected to him. That is, we may feel lonely, and often do. Yet, the underlying reality of our lives is that we're ALWAYS connected, whether we feel it or not. Whether we accept it or deny it, the connection is there. And since we're connected, we're responsible. Battling for goodness is how we give our lives meaning. Maybe there are no answers, ultimately, we may never find that elusive truth. Yet ultimately, we may find something else: meaning, significance and fulfillment.
And now for some random screens of Rabbi Stone dying...
To Joe DeMarco:
The sharp pinprick of metal tore into my ribs like butter. I had no time to even cry out before everything turned black. They say that your life passes before your eyes. All I could see was Joe's leering face, laughing at me as he drove the blade home. As my body lay cooling on the concrete subway platform, I couldn't help but wonder... what if I could go back and do that again? Was this death inevitable? As a rabbi, didn't I have an advantage over a mere street punk? I guess I'll never know.
To Zelig's gun:
Holy... you shot her!
What? You're surprised? I gave you ample warning. So are you going to jump? Or am I going to shoot you too? I warn you, I won't make your death as quick as hers.
You'll never get away with this!
Stone, you're in no position to argue with me. This gun? Untraceable, I'll say it's yours. And with your troubled financial situation and your synagogue in tatters... I doubt the police would question your actions too strongly.
You vile, murdering lowlife! You can go to...
I just had the carpet cleaned, too.
I had solved the case, but at the cost of my life. Zelig was a detestable man, but he would go on living. As for me, I couldn't help but wonder... What if I could go back and do that again? A man like that shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets, let alone run a synagogue. I guess I'll never know
To Zelig's balcony:
They say a man's life passes before his eyes at times like these. But all I could see were the high-rises of Manhattan, crowding themselves around me like a concrete womb. The harsh, unyielding pavement comes ever closer, and I couldn't help but wonder... why did I jump? Why did I choose suicide over doing the honorable thing? I guess I'll never know...
To Zelig's Jew-jitsu:
There you have it. Do you have anything further to say before your death, Stone?
Is there anything TO say?
A rabbi to the end... good bye, Stone!
They say a man's life passes before his eyes at times like these. But all I could see were the high-rises of Manhattan, crowding themselves around me like a concrete womb. The harsh, unyielding pavement comes ever closer, and I couldn't help but wonder... Did I honestly try as hard as I could? I fought him. I stood up to him. I did the honorable thing. Yet, I failed. Was this outcome inevitable? I guess I'll never know
Showing mercy to Zelig.
Jack's bestowal arrived and my debt collectors were satisfied for the time being. Amos Zelig was picked up by the police, after an anonymous tip told them what lay in his Upper East Side appartment. Then I received a visitor...
It just proves the old axiom right. "No good deed goes unpunished". Jack's money should cover my legal fees, I just hope there's some left over when this is finished
Now, we show mercy to DeMarco:
The train clattered off into the flickering distance, and Joe DeMarco remained unconcious, but alive.
We know what happens here.
When suddenly...
JOE EX MACHINA.
I took a quick glance at Rajshree. I couldn't help but think a close call had been made.
Short-term memory evil rabbi ftw.
Now, we throw him off:
He didn't utter a sound. He merely looked at me with that knowing smirk on his face. Then he disappeared into the cold, Manhattan skyline
She looked at me with downcast eyes. I quickly untied her.
And the ending is the same as throwing him over without letting Joe go.
Let's knock the old git out.
Her eyes shined with relief. I quickly untied her.
Happy rabbi is happy ^____^
The weeks sped by. Jack's bestowal arrived in the mail, and I was able to appease all my debts. Thanks to an anonymous tip, the police picked up Amos Zelig before he regained conciousness. He even tried to tell them that I attacked him, but thankfully, Rajshree testified on my behalf. Back to the grind. Another week, another Shabbos. Debts still pile up, but it won't be a problem as long as Jack's money holds. After that... it's best not to think about it.
Then it hit me
And now for some random screens of Rabbi Stone dying...
To Joe DeMarco:
The sharp pinprick of metal tore into my ribs like butter. I had no time to even cry out before everything turned black. They say that your life passes before your eyes. All I could see was Joe's leering face, laughing at me as he drove the blade home. As my body lay cooling on the concrete subway platform, I couldn't help but wonder... what if I could go back and do that again? Was this death inevitable? As a rabbi, didn't I have an advantage over a mere street punk? I guess I'll never know.
To Zelig's gun:
I had solved the case, but at the cost of my life. Zelig was a detestable man, but he would go on living. As for me, I couldn't help but wonder... What if I could go back and do that again? A man like that shouldn't be allowed to walk the streets, let alone run a synagogue. I guess I'll never know
To Zelig's balcony:
They say a man's life passes before his eyes at times like these. But all I could see were the high-rises of Manhattan, crowding themselves around me like a concrete womb. The harsh, unyielding pavement comes ever closer, and I couldn't help but wonder... why did I jump? Why did I choose suicide over doing the honorable thing? I guess I'll never know...
To Zelig's Jew-jitsu:
They say a man's life passes before his eyes at times like these. But all I could see were the high-rises of Manhattan, crowding themselves around me like a concrete womb. The harsh, unyielding pavement comes ever closer, and I couldn't help but wonder... Did I honestly try as hard as I could? I fought him. I stood up to him. I did the honorable thing. Yet, I failed. Was this outcome inevitable? I guess I'll never know
And that's all folks. Thanks for reading, hope you enjoyed it!
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lightbane
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Soo, it seems that if you have mercy but the chick is dead you lose, and even if the chick is alive being EXTREME just "scares" her (and of course having mercy and the chick alive gives you the best ending).
Morale: THERE CANNOT BE BAD CONSEQUENCES FROM BEING EXTREME!!!!!
Still, it was awesome, great lp.
Morale: THERE CANNOT BE BAD CONSEQUENCES FROM BEING EXTREME!!!!!
Still, it was awesome, great lp.
Stereotypical Villain
Arcane
BLABLABLABLABLA UPDATED MY JOURNAL
GarfunkeL
Racism Expert
Everytime I read that I hear TNO's voice in my head.
Grippin' tale Rabbi Roxor!
Grippin' tale Rabbi Roxor!
Serious_Business
Best Poster on the Codex
That was tight, fuck yeah
Pegultagol
Erudite
Mighty props for the LP, the dev commentary could be interesting too, looks like it was really a labor of love on both parts.
I like how consistency is rewarded. Show mercy twice, best ending. Be EXTREME twice, good ending. Be extreme once, merciful the second time, you're fucked. Merciful once, extreme the second time, woman doesn't like you.
JarlFrank said:
I also liked it very much. It was a very cool little mind trick.
I mean, if you're X-TREME first, you're given the 'I think this could have been avoided' message, which pretty clearly states 'you fucked up', so when you get the second choice you think 'hmmm, X-TREMISM was a bad thing to do the first time, so I guess it would be good to show mercy now', and then bang, motherfucker! You fucked up again!
PrzeSzkoda
Augur
Nice 'lil game, very Jewish. 
Rabbinical responses FTW, they should implement them in Ass Effect 2 and Shepard Protocol.
Kudos on the LP, yo.
Rabbinical responses FTW, they should implement them in Ass Effect 2 and Shepard Protocol.Kudos on the LP, yo.
DaveGilbert
Wadjet Eye Games
Holy crap! I know this is an old topic, but... holy crap!
I found this old thread through Google Alert. I had to register and express my... well, it's hard to put into words exactly how I feel about this but it's AWESOME! It's hard to believe that this little game I made three years ago still garners this kind of attention. I'm happy you all liked it.
-Dave
I found this old thread through Google Alert. I had to register and express my... well, it's hard to put into words exactly how I feel about this but it's AWESOME! It's hard to believe that this little game I made three years ago still garners this kind of attention. I'm happy you all liked it.
-Dave
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