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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. ScubaV Prophet

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    Because I suspect B1 will close off the maximum possible harem ending. :smug:
     
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  2. Grimgravy Cipher Patron

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    Time is short. We could too easily be delayed with 1 or 2 and get caught with the sun coming up. Let's get Cao'er out and then proceed from there.
     
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  3. B3 voters need to ask themselves why the heck they want the frog voiced girl who doesn't bathe following them around when Jing has no meridians for her to heal him with.

    If we take Cao'er and don't kill Song, the nuns probably won't be able to effect Yao's release and we'll have to take care of her. We'd be stuck with her mangy ass jealously trying to slop Yao's smelly pig goo on Jing's whoring, adulterous baby-arm every five minutes. :(


    Really? So we know she isn't a cold-hearted mega-bitch? We know she will listen to reason? We know that she isn't super vindictive and won't hunt Cao'er down after killing Yao? (Yes, she was given more comfortable quarters than Yao, but she's still a prisoner. For all we know, it was the other nuns that took pity on her and petitioned their cruel mistress to let her stay somewhere comfortable before her execution.) We also don't know why or if the nuns would help Yao escape. My point is that we know nothing about her personality or any other objectives she may or may not have, only that she wants Yao dead.
    We probably would have heard the same story from Song, only spun in a way that paints her family honorably - but Jing is smart enough to see through that.

    I liked your suggestion of using the masked negotiation to throw her off guard and issuing the challenge. I'm still confused as to whether we'd be fighting her or her apprentice in the challenge?
     
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  4. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    From what Yao has said, it doesn't seem like Emei's rescuing him is dependent upon Jing killing Song Lingshu, only upon him getting Cao'er out. It sounds like if we can use Esquilax's plan and rescue Cao'er, intimidate Song Lingshu then issue the challenge, it might all work pretty well.

    Of course, we can't underestimate Song Lingshu for her age and gender; intimidation may well backfire and screw with our escape. It's a pity that we have all the information we need except information about the girl.
     
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  5. Esquilax Arcane

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    Cao'er has skills other than being a healer, don't dismiss it. She is a genius with an eidetic memory - she'll be the perfect coach for the tournament, able to detect flaws in our opponents and devise strategies for us. It's like having Rain Man in the casino counting cards for you.

    She's been with Yao for all this time, so she might even be able to share a technique or two from him. Another benefit to having Cao'er around is that if we're issuing challenges against people with the violent, crippling techniques that we possess, we don't have to hold back as much if we can guarantee that Cao'er will be around to heal any of our wounded competitors. It would do a lot to mitigate potential bad blood if Cao'er can patch up all the broken bones we'll be causing. She may not be able to heal us, but she can heal our opponent after a fight.

    I imagined it like this: we'd sneak into her room while wearing a mask, reminding her that if Yao isn't free, we'll be paying her another visit shortly, only we won't be so friendly next time. We can either do that or poison her a bit so that she feels nauseous the next day - just like we had the opportunity to back when we were seeking the invitation to Luoyang Manor. The plan here would be to affect her so that she can't provide decent competition against us when we challenge her:

    Of course, there would still be issues as to what the terms of the duel would be and whether this plan would work to begin with, but that's the broad strokes of it.

    I'd like to point out that B1 won't kill Yao. It has problems, sure, but it won't kill him. The man is aware of certain things that we aren't privy to, and he seems to be very confident that he'll make it out in one piece even if we end up killing Song Lingshu and running off with Cao'er. I'm inclined to believe him here, considering his relationship with the Emei.
     
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  6. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Given the rather limited time we have, I'm voting B3.
     
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  7. XenomorphII Prophet

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    Whatever will be will, Que Sera Sera
     
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  9. treave Arcane Patron

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    Kipeci - B1
    Azira - B1
    Baltika9 - B3
    Zero Credibility - B3
    The Brazilian Slaughter - B3
    Ifeex - B1
    Stygian Lurker - B1
    Jester - B2
    Kashmir Slippers - B3
    Nevill - A2 > B3
    Lambchop19 - B1
    m4davis - B2
    Esquilax - B1
    ScubaV - B3
    Grimgravy - B3
    ERYFKRAD - B3
    XenomorphII - B1
    LWC1996 - B3
    Smashing Axe - A3 > B1
    TOME - B3

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    Current tally:

    A2 - 1
    A3 - 1
    B1 - 7
    B2 - 2
    B3 - 9
     
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  10. Kashmir Slippers Magister

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    She did save our life. Twice. We do owe her. Besides, there doesn't always have to be a material reason to do something. She is our sis and, importantly, innocent, so we will try to save her.
     
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  11. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    A3>B1

    I'd prefer to defeat the girl in the open, she may push for it to be a battle to the death anyway because this is a matter involving her father's killer. Since no one's going for that anyway, we may as well fulfill Yao's request, since we do owe him.
     
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  12. Nevill Arcane

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    Let me tell how I see his last order (don't you think it is an ominous name?):

    "My apprentice, I have allowed for pride to overweigh my concern for Cao'er's well-being. I have made it a point to always follow through on my philosophy without regards for my own life, but I forgot I no longer had only myself to worry about. I almost thought I was mistaken to follow my rules so vigorously, but, thankfully, you turned up and cleared my doubts. Now that you are here, I can filally put the thought of Caoer's safety to rest, and once again I would be free to execute Lingshu and get killed for it, because I can't stand the thought of being used like that. Take care of Cao'er for me."

    Well, no, geezer. You don't get to take an easy way out. I am not going to watch Cao'er in your stead, leaving you free of any moral obligation you finally started to notice. You are walking out of here with the girl in tow, and you are going to watch over her from now on, even if it means that you have to abandon you life-for-a-life shenanigans. You will settle in a quiet place and live the rest of your life as just a physician, and you will thank me for it later.

    The Emei may get him free, but how is he going to utilize his freedom, now that his safety trigger is removed and is in your care? Seriously, isn't it obvious that he will kill Lingshu if we leave him like that? What do you think will happen to him? Don't you hear the death flags popping all over the place?

    Add this to my concerns about B choices pushing our luck, and I can't in good heart choose B3. Of course, with the same considerations, B1 is absolutely out. I don't even want to think about what would happen if you fail to rescue Cao'er after murdering Lingshu in cold blood.

    Maybe. Or maybe after his honor is cleared and Lingshu is dead, he doesn't care what happens to him. He can't leave the place now, and he would rather that we flee with Cao'er, so he tells us he is in no danger.

    Because if we don't do it, the nuns will take her. Fuck that.

    I know that we are in no condition to be her caretaker while conducting not one, but two dangerous missions - one for our master, and one for our prince. That doesn't mean we can just wash our hands away from her. Yao does not want her on Emei Mountain - this is reason enough for me.

    The only two places that we can be sure she would be safe are Luoying Manor and Ashina Tribe. Personally, I am in favor of letting her settle in a tribe - they would be glad to have a greatly experienced healer among them.

    No, they only need Cao'er. They won't come for Yao if Cao'er won't be there. If she isn't there, they will go to Yao to ask where the hell she is.

    They're coming to take her away, HA HA
    They're coming to take her away, HO HO HEE HEE HA HA
    To the funny mountain
    Where life is beautiful all the time
    And she'll be happy to see
    Those nice, young gals
    In their clean, white robes
    And they're coming to take her away, Ha-haaa!
     
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  13. Kipeci Arcane

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    It's interesting how the Codex takes votes to be a crafty unorthodox skulker in the dark and then won't follow through to kill someone we needed to attack at a later point anyway in order to fulfill even a bit of the life debt we swore just a few updates ago.
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    Life debt does not require us killing her.
    Attacking her later does not require us killing her.
    We expressed concern about Jing's mental state when we chose stalker path. We didn't do it to go around murdering people willy-nilly, and neither it requires that of us.

    That logic is full of holes.
     
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  15. Azira Arcane Patron

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    That's because, deep down, I'm a cold-hearted bastard. +M
     
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  16. Nevill Arcane

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    This is just a poor formatting on my part. The non-lethal part was supposed to be a separate point.
    I wanted to say that it is not in our interests to go around making enemies out of every sect we come across. We already have Songfend and Emei, no reason to expand this list needlessly.

    I am completely against your plan.

    You won't explain anything to her. You essentially would be threatening her to let go of her ideals, step on her familial pride, forego justice, and let her father's murderer walk free for no other reason than just to save her life. For an upright orthodox character that we suppose she is, this would actually be worse than death. You might as well murder her right now and spare her the agony of choosing between her honor and her life. Would be kinder.

    If you really want her, and not Emei, to free Yao and cancel her personal vendetta against him, A2 is the only choice. She will not let the matter slide out of fear, but she might be reasoned with.
     
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  17. Baltika9 Arcane

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    A dudebro would go through with Yao's plan completely just to pay off his debt and be done with it, and not care as to what happens to the old geezer afterwards.
    A true bro would make sure both of them get out alive, unharmed and never pull this dumb shit again. Not because he owes them, but because they are his bros.

    There's also the matter of C1 trying to do too much at once: nab Cao'er and assassinate the heiress all in two hours' time and then sneak away? That's just pushing it, pick one or the other.
     
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  18. Nevill Arcane

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    Don't forget putting a bloody graffiti all over the walls.

    Then why did you go with an option that lets him attempt this dumb shit after he is free?
     
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  19. treave Arcane Patron

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    It should take all of ten minutes to slit her throat while she sleeps and write with her blood. You're not an uneducated farmer, it's not like you're going to spend an hour rubbing off the words then trying to get them right over and over. :M
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Because we're the absolute worst person to mediate between him and the Emei. In fact, we just might fuck things up even more. It is without doubt that Yao cares about Cao'er, so he will come and see her for his parting words/whatever, and that's when we settle this shit once and for all: what's going to happen to Cao'er, what's going to happen with him and where we stand. Right now, priority number one is getting the two of them outta here and he has a plan to do that, provided we make Cao'er disappear. I'm rolling with that, Yao is a smart dude.

    And I don't know about fostering her with the Ashina, Yunzi strikes me as a very territorial girl.

    How long till the poll closes?
     
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  21. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    If only we had more ranks in artistic expression, we could really do some nifty calligraphy with her entrails.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    Unless there are some pressing arguments to work out, perhaps in 5 or 6 hours.
     
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  23. Nevill Arcane

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    Why would we mediate between him and Emei? I want this shit done ASAP exactly because I want to get out of here before Emei come. I am going to maintain a very safe distance from them while we have Cao'er with us.

    Yao cares for Cao'er, but he cares about his pride just the same. The conflict is tearing the old man apart. If we take Cao'er off his hands, there will be no more doubts left.

    Do you think he'll try go for Lingshu's head, or don't you? Because I definitely do.

    And Cao'er strikes me as a very unpretentious and modest girl. She isn't going to steal the young princess' popularity or step on her toes any time soon. They'll get agong just fine, since their interests should not intersect in any way.

    Oh, and A2>B3. I may not be around when the votes close.
     
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  24. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Oi guys? Honor, you know, right? The thing the orthodox is real keen on? Well, the assassinated leader of this sect here, he shat right and profoundly on honor, twice. Two times he refused to pay the price he knew he had to pay.

    If I'm not mistaken, that reflects poorly on the entire sect, as he was the leader.
    The new leader, if she takes honor seriously, would have to pay the price or lose face.
    Thing is, Zhang wants her to lose face. But he also wants her humiliated by us proving we're better than her in combat, so we can't just have her up and admit she's a terrible, terrible person and daughter of an honorless prick, we need to defeat her first.

    Simplest thing would be to kill her to claim the price, then write the reason with blood on the walls, signed by Xu Jing.
    A more complicated solution would be to challenge her in the open, citing the above reason, and then maul her. We don't, per se, need to kill her, it's just the simpler way about this.
     
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  25. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hm, I kinda want to complete Zhang's challenge without killing anyone, bonus for not maiming anyone either. Just to see the look on his face.
    :troll:
     
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