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You turn to Cao’er. “I think it was the Yuhua Duqing Palm. You’ve seen it before, right?” She peers at you closely, and then shakes her head.

“…it’s similar, but different. Not the same attack Granddad healed you from… the qi is crueller… more persistent.” She doesn’t seem to be able to articulate what exactly is different, but you will have to accept her diagnosis that it isn’t the Yuhua Duqing Palm.
The sole reason we believed we have found our conspirators was because we thought we recognised the Yuhua Duqing Palm. If this apparently isn't it, then we might be on a false trail altogether. This could all be a completely different conspiracy to the one we are looking into to. Ugh. We need more information on what the hell is going on, and C may be our best bet for that at this moment.
 

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treave, after facing Nie Mudan in the previous match, do we know the names of a few Huashan techniques or qinggong as well as what they do?

Plus, if the meeting ends in our favor, we may get some protips from the Grand Taoist of Wudang about our qi.
That guy is the authority when it comes to highly mixed yin and yang.

He's definitely the authority on qi, but we aren't going to be getting any protips from the Grand Taoist any time soon. We're the disciple of Zhang Jue and we're the embodiment of chaos: the harmony of The Way is heresy to your being. Enemies can ally themselves temporarily against a greater threat - which is the appeal of C - but at the end of the day, we're still enemies and we'll have to face them. I'm still torn though, as the prospect of collaboration is a good one.

Maybe. But what he is going to do about it? Teach all of his disciple the move that counters our Chuzhan Fist that nobody had ever seen? Start mass-producing chaos wards?

No, he won't do that, because he'd have to actually see the Chuzhan Fist in action. What he'd probably do is find a way to neutralize our neigong. Our qi relies on pure chaos, so if there's a technique that tries to momentarily rearrange our qi into a more orderly state, it could really fuck up our ability to draw our inner strength. Or at least, if I were a Wudang fighter, that's what I would do if I were fighting Jing.

We're on their turf, though, and the sectarians are none too amused by our stunts, especially the stripping of Nie Mudan. If they want anything from us, we're at a disadvantage here. Oh well, time for some quick thinking and Magnificent Bastardry.

That little trick? That's nothing. If that's the worst thing that Zhang Jue's apprentice ever does, they should breathe a sigh of relief.

Remember how Zhang Jue got his reading? He walked up to Jing, put his hands on him and channelled.

Treave has said earlier, that the only person who can read meridians and such at distance is Cao'er. The grand Taoist would have to more or less assault us to get a reading. Does that sound like something an orthodox sect leader would do? The Southern Maniac, sure. This guy's not him.

Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Cao'er knows about our nature thanks to her Immortal's Eyes, while Zhang Jue figured it out because of his ridiculously high reserves of qi that he channeled onto us. I don't think that it's paranoid to suggest that the greatest qi specialist in the pugilistic world would figure it out rather quickly as well. There are lots of good things with C, of course, but there are trade-offs too. And I think that this is a plausible one.

I'm not in any way suggesting that the meeting would go poorly or that the Grand Taoist would hate us just due to the fact that our qi is a manifestation of pure chaos (going to the summons would make them like us more), but rather that the guy is considered the greatest for a reason, and he'd probably learn a thing or two about us that we may not have wanted to give away. If he's the best at what he does, he'll probably figure it out.

The sole reason we believed we have found our conspirators was because we thought we recognised the Yuhua Duqing Palm. If this apparently isn't it, then we might be on a false trail altogether. This could all be a completely different conspiracy to the one we are looking into to. Ugh. We need more information on what the hell is going on, and C may be our best bet for that at this moment.

Now this is a very good observation. Based on what you stated, it could either be (1) a modified form of the Yuhua Duqing Palm, much like how our Mad Wolf Step is modified from the Ashina Shadow Step, or (2) completely unrelated to the Woman-in-Black and the people that tried to kill Shun. While you're right that (2) is possible, I still think that (1) is far more likely.
 

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Qilin never asked for our help and told us nothing of her plan, while for B I really doubt that we could help a situation in which both Guo Fu and Murong Yandi have been overcome.
 

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Plus, if the meeting ends in our favor, we may get some protips from the Grand Taoist of Wudang about our qi.
That guy is the authority when it comes to highly mixed yin and yang.

He's definitely the authority on qi, but we aren't going to be getting any protips from the Grand Taoist any time soon. We're the disciple of Zhang Jue and we're the embodiment of chaos: the harmony of The Way is heresy to your being. Enemies can ally themselves temporarily against a greater threat - which is the appeal of C - but at the end of the day, we're still enemies and we'll have to face them. I'm still torn though, as the prospect of collaboration is a good one.

We are not enemies with the Wudang. Our existence gives name and face to an alternative coexistence of yin and yang. It would be a heretical idea, if it was just an idea, but we are right here and it changes everything. They have found out that people do not survive a chaotic mix of yin and yang but we are here to prove them wrong. Either they will want to know more, or they will want to try and take us out of the game swiftly. It is good for us that the other two Masters will be present in the meeting either way.
 

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Esquilax said:
No, he won't do that, because he'd have to actually see the Chuzhan Fist in action. What he'd probably do is find a way to neutralize our neigong. Our qi relies on pure chaos, so if there's a technique that tries to momentarily rearrange our qi into a more orderly state, it could really fuck up our ability to draw our inner strength. Or at least, if I were a Wudang fighter, that's what I would do if I were fighting Jing.
But this goes both ways. As their qi can bring order to our chaos, so ours can ruin their harmony. The Grand Taoist might come up with a technique, but I doubt any of his pupils we will be facing in a near future could master it. They won't have anything to practice on, as our condition is unique, and we will always have an edge on them by virtue of our chaotic qi being around us longer than they were aquintainced with their theoretical counter-measure.

And as for the Great Taoist himself, we are no match for him whether he knows about our condition or not.

Might as well decide now. C.
 

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By the wat, treave , what about our aura of menace? Does that take any significant mental resources to suppress or something? Would we exide that even while sleeping or something, would a momentary surprise cause us to reveal it? Also, how strong is ours relative to Zhang Jue's? When we first encountered him, we were left paralyzed and only with our great recklessness/courage were we able to avoid cowering down or backing up, so it seems that we could do some sort of nonsense "Now I release my true power!1!" stuff in a fight to get the drop on someone if it's anywhere near that level.
 

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I really doubt that ignoring such people will help us, although its possible that they will find out who is Jing master. Still possible statement from true disciple of mad one could help them believe that something is really wrong here.
B Guo have Murong to help and those two equal some serious power here IMO so i doubt that something bad will happen.
A hmm i think that Qilin can handle herself to.
 

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By the wat, treave , what about our aura of menace? Does that take any significant mental resources to suppress or something? Would we exide that even while sleeping or something, would a momentary surprise cause us to reveal it? Also, how strong is ours relative to Zhang Jue's? When we first encountered him, we were left paralyzed and only with our great recklessness/courage were we able to avoid cowering down or backing up, so it seems that we could do some sort of nonsense "Now I release my true power!1!" stuff in a fight to get the drop on someone if it's anywhere near that level.

It only appears when you're in a killing mood. So when you're sleeping it usually wouldn't, but someone like Zhang, who has honed his art in murder to a high level, exudes that dangerous air all the time, meaning that he can kill people in his sleep. He can hide it but he chooses not to. As for paralyzing people, probably wouldn't work on anyone stronger than you, though if you're bloodthirsty enough you might give them pause. It's more of creating a deer-in-headlights effect on your opponent, a mental trick by intimidating them into freezing up due to the killing intent they perceive from you.

Basically, narrative-wise it gives you the ability to induce a 'shit just got real' moment. :lol:
 
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hey treave

If we vote C, would it be possible to ask Yifang to take a few friends and look into why Guo and Murong are late? This seems like a reasonable request since we would be busy with the meeting she's sending us to and she does look like the type that would help us with something like that.
 

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Yes, but if they really are in trouble the nuns might not be able to handle it as well as you can.
 
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Still, it's better then leaving them alone. If there really is anything to worry about that is (and of course it is). And even the fact that we cared enough to send help could score us some points with everyone involved.
 

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A. Esquilax is right about the broad strokes of the situation. Let me add, briefly:

-If they really really need to see us, they can see us after the fight. Nobody's going anywhere and it's not even the final yet. Offend them? Who cares, really? Will being punctual be that important to them that it will cut off relations? This isn't kindergarten. We don't want to make enemies of them needlessly, but this won't make enemies of them.
-We are right to be wary of the Grand Taoist. He won't assault us or haul us off straight away butt as soon as he sees us he is going to remember us, and he IS going to think that we are at best someone he must cure whatever the way, at worst an abomination to destroy.
-We know that the WiB are doing things that are all leading up, tell-tale, to a violent and spectacular finale. Now they know it too. They know what to do to try and prevent that. If they're going to ask us to investigate furrther incognito, well we'll be doing that with A.

What's important is to ensure that although they now know about us since we told Yifang of all people, we don't place ourselves needlessly in their hands and to their scrutiny. That goes for our survival, Zhang's mission, and Shun's mission. If they're only concerned about WiB, I think they could see us after the fight or whatever, and they could come to us. If they're concerned about who we are, and want to know more, warn us, etc., then it makes sense to summon us...
 

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C>B

Don't have the time to participate in a long debate right now. Suffice to say I think this could be more important than the identity of the masked figure right now. B is too much of a wildcard to say.

Keep in mind that tasks A and B (Unmasking and the big guy arriving for the match) are potentially doable by our bros alone without our assistance, whereas task C is specifically related to us. Food for thought.
 
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Interesting.

A would unmask our enemy (it's probably either the first woman in black we encountered years ago or the princess from the wolf clan). B would rescue Big G from his enemies, but why would he be attacked at all. Curiously, it almost seems as though the WiB are trying to rig the tournament by taking him out or weakening him before our fight. C might let us know what is going on, but it would also expose us to the sects... The Taoist will instantly know we are Man Tiger Pig by recognizing our chaotic qi. Thus we'd risk losing our advantage of anonymity we've worked so hard to maintain. No doubt he has been watching our matches.

I vote A>B.

Let the WiB beat up Gou. That will enable us to win the match against him. It is unlikely he would win the tournament anyway. Further, by unmasking our opponent, we will gain the edge over her as well.

Remember our goals: learn as much as we can without revealing our identity. We have to in order to complete Zhang's challenge and continue to learn from him. Otherwise we won't be strong enough to help the prince. C would definitely reveal our identity and B could halt our progress in the tournament. A is the best option.
 
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Tigranes said:
If they really really need to see us, they can see us after the fight.
I hate it when people make arguments based on "we can always do it later".
Oh, we can always use Shun's recomendation letter later. Boom, enter the bandits. We can always browse the library in the Manor later. Boom, enters Zhang Jue and 2 years of apprenticeship. We can always search for Yao and Cao'er later. Boom, there is an execution scheduled.
There may be more pressing concerns after the fight, both for them and for us. You are given a rare chance, grab it while you can.
Tigranes said:
We are right to be wary of the Grand Taoist.
The Great Taoist is one of the reasons I want to go.
Tigranes said:
We know that the WiB are doing things that are all leading up, tell-tale, to a violent and spectacular finale. Now they know it too. They know what to do to try and prevent that. If they're going to ask us to investigate furrther incognito, well we'll be doing that with A.
Investigating without a plan or without a goal (seriously, find WiB by tailing random orthodox passers by in a city the size of Luoying - that was Jing's master plan?) is just stumbling in the dark. What would you be investigating in A? The identity of Persians?
 

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Tigranes said:
We are right to be wary of the Grand Taoist.
The Great Taoist is one of the reasons I want to go.
Which isn't the best of ideas, due to the reasons Esquilax stated.
Tigranes said:
We know that the WiB are doing things that are all leading up, tell-tale, to a violent and spectacular finale. Now they know it too. They know what to do to try and prevent that. If they're going to ask us to investigate furrther incognito, well we'll be doing that with A.
Investigating without a plan or without a goal (seriously, find WiB by tailing random orthodox passers by in a city the size of Luoying - that was Jing's master plan?) is just stumbling in the dark. What would you be investigating in A? The identity of Persians?
That, and what the hell is a Persian doing here in the first place? That's really fucking suspicious, a trio of Persians coming all the way to Cathay to participate in a martial arts tournament for youths.
Also, is she a princess and if so, is she open to join our harem?
 

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I hate it when people make arguments based on "we can always do it later".
Oh, we can always use our recomendation letter later. Boom, enter the bandits. We can always browse the library in the Manor later. Boom, enters Zhang Jue and 2 years of apprenticeship. We can always search for Yao and Cao'er later. Boom, there is an execution scheduled.
This. Though I still think A is the better option and DO NOT want to meet with the Taoist, I agree that "we can do it later" is a horrible argument used far too often in these LPs.
 

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Which isn't the best of ideas, due to the reasons Esquilax stated.
Which isn't the worst of ideas either, due to the reasons asxetos mentioned.
Baltika9 said:
Also, is she a princess and if so, is she open to join our harem?
No. I will never trust a woman again. *shudders at the memories*
 

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The Taoist will instantly know we are Man Tiger Pig by recognizing our chaotic qi. Thus we'd risk losing our advantage of anonymity we've worked so hard to maintain.
What anonymity? Dude, Bai Jiutan already knows who we are. Why do you think he distracted us while we were watching one of the Nie sisters? We are not anonymous anymore.

And the Taoist doe not know what sort of qi Man Tiger Pig possess.

Not that it matters because I don't give a damn about our 'sekrit' identity anymore. There are far bigger thing at stake.
 

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Yet. And that's a valid point from Esquilax, he's the expert on all things qi, and there's a rather good chance he'll start suspecting some things. Yuanshan Hundun is an extremely powerful and probably unique neiggong, I'd rather keep our condition secret as long as possible.
 

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I'm still on my shitty keyboard. I accept that saaaying WE can see them laterrrrrrrrrrrrrr is silly. My point was more that they seem prettty keeen to see us ASAPPPP in isolation with several of the heads includiggggg the Grand Taoists; I would have gone in with C maybe if it was just the Abbess or something. I just don't trust these gguys and I am sure that GT will recognise us right away and that he will not be happy at allllll about it... and that we will not be, either.

Qilin has a plan with A and the problem with Qilin is that (1) people keep wanting to trust her for things where she's proven to be untrustworthy, like looking out for our interests or not taking us for a ride; (2) but people don't seem to trust her for things where she HAS proven herself, i.e. an uncanny ability to identify people and to take advantage of it without blowing covers. SSSShe told us not to go out last night because it was a stab in the dark, so if she's going now it's not a stab in the dark, is it?

Bloody fucking bluetooth keyboard + chrome, it's weird how it only fucks up in browsers.
 
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A would unmask our enemy (it's probably either the first woman in black we encountered years ago or the princess from the wolf clan).
Nope. She can't be either one. She's a foreigner from Persia of all places (at least that's what our harem says). So not Han or Ashina. In fact, we have no connection between them and the WiB apart from the fact that they too are masked and in the same city at this point. If those are even the real WiB in the first place. It would be just our luck if we stumbled on a whole mess of unconnected conspiracies, none of which are of real interest to us.
 

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Fact remains, these guys are shady as fuck: show up from a foreign land hundreds, if not thousands of miles away, participate in masks for some reason (really, Lantu and the Tibetan dude had no problem participating openly, even if they were foreigners) and suddenly there are assaults all over the city from the WiBs.
Or maybe someone lured them here to be scapegoats for them (masked fighters, masked people, mysterious and deadly techniques on boths sides; people will get suspicious). In which case, investigating them is still to our advantage because it gets closer to us uncovering the troothz. And possibly warning the Persians should it turn out they're being framed just like we are.
 

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