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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    Well, that was my point too when I argued against the mission.

    But I also see the other side of the argument - Gao Ying deemed us extremely dangerous because of our political savviness. He certainly didn't think about us as of 'some guy who just trolls around'.

    Maybe the assassination would make Gao's superiors relate better to his opinion, but on his own list of threats we were pretty high already. And from what I've seen, he is one of their deadliest agents.
     
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  2. Right. And what if his superiors send 3 or 4 more Gao's after us? What then? We're boned, that's what.

    Being a threat in the eyes of one agent - that also wanted to try and work with us, remember? - is different from being the priority target of several agents of extreme skill that all are ordered to kill us on sight.
     
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  3. Esquilax Arcane

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    Whatever the case may be, we were in better shape because we got hit by the dart:

    Here's my train of thought. It was said before that after the Minamoto, we were looking at a long recovery time to the point where it was even questionable whether we'd be at 100% for the Fire Cult challenge. Getting hit with the dart restored our neigong and healed us overall since our qi was back to normal, which leads me to believe that it shortened our overall recovery time. Therefore, there was a rational basis for going to make friends with Wudang then meet Cao'er afterwards because we knew our encounter with Gao Ying would have made healing the remainder of our injuries either (i.e. a much shorter recovery time).

    Now, I voted for going to Emei too, but I still think that there were lots of good reasons to visit Wudang. The biggest problem was that a lot of things would have had to go right for us to meet her on time. And of course, they didn't! But I don't think that it was anywhere near as foolish as you're describing it.

    Look, Gao Ying is as deadly as it gets and he was going to be on our ass after the BDS no matter what. These guys don't give a fuck about what you have to say, they shoot first and ask questions later and they don't sit around to hear you out. This was unlikely to change, because once you fuck up with the Imperial Court, getting off their shitlist is very unlikely. Based on that, dropping our reputation further with them in exchange for improving our ties with both the Wudang and the underworld was an acceptable tradeoff.

    Yeah, we'd probably get more guys like Gao Ying after us, but that's what we sought friends out for in the first place.
     
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  4. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    But he was just one guy in the neighbourhood. Imagine 20 guys like that actively hunting Jing. Bandit king's protection won't save us if we can't take on even one agent.
     
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  5. Baltika9 Arcane

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    But now we have a chance to get our own hotshot killers from the underworld. China's criminals have been tussling with these guys for centuries, I think they know what they're doing. In fact, guys like the Bandit Kings are probably the only ones with the resources and experience to be able to stand up to the secret police and it's agents.

    Also, just because Gao Yang wouldn't be able to call the whole organization on us in these short few months, doesn't mean he wouldn't do it in the near future. With the way we were going and the people we were associating with, this was bound to happen.
     
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  6. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    In hindsight going to Wudang wasn't probably one of best choices we could take, but it wasn't that retarded either. So far Grand Taoist is amused by our antics, but does our antics made ourselves valuable ally in his eyes? Making friends and good impression on lower level chain of command makes it all easier him to help us, not to mention so far other Wudang members have been pretty reasonable with us so far. In my humble option having rep boost with Wudang and even getting basic defense techniques would helped Jing a lot since almost all of our techniques are attacking in nature, besides actually having to chance have a reliable sword technique would be pretty good addition to our arsenal.


    As for Gao problem, I think we might missed conversation in friendly environment too many times by picking unorthodox path. Gao sounds like a guy who handles contacts and deals on the ground, while superiors gave him orders. Perhaps if we had been orthodox guy, we could had very potential ally there. That being said there was nothing to stop having secret police neutral or even friendly in unorthodox path, but in hindsight killing that guy in mansion was mistake but I think that the final nail was our BDS situation where were kind of discovered having one of their badges...
     
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  7. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Yeaaaaah. I get the feeling Gao is a prodigy. There's not going to be too many like him, and the few that are would be divided across the entire empire. Now Gao and twenty soldiers is a concern, but let's not exaggerate here.
     
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  8. Baltika9 Arcane

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    So, can you oblige us with your support against the rollback, Elfberserker?
     
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  9. Nevill Arcane

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    I have only this to answer:

     
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  10. Nevill Arcane

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    In hindsight, resolving the quest via an assassination would have helped us not to miss the deadline. The quest would have been over in three days, and the city was already to the west. If we just gave up on the manual (or received a copy from Du Yao) after completing the task, gave the items back to our crew and headed straight to the Emei, we would still have made it.
     
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  11. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    I don't know. I kind a expected Treave making us a new character after we died in our first attempt to get Sword and manual or just ending the this CYOA right there and now. I admit that this is my first Treave COYA, but I think that current Rewind situation is only one he allows happen in this journey and by the god I feel strong temptation to grasp it with my both hands. While reloading sounds dirty but it isn't something that we haven't done before and I am more of opportunist played rather than hardcore player with balls size of basketball to accept wins and loses as they come around even if they had chance to reload.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Think of all the babes we'll get to pull with our Triad-style tattoos and gangster reputation. Tulu Huodu will have zero problems with his heir chilling with us now that we're firmly "one of them." Most of all, this is a very interesting story thread, coming back from extreme adversity and rising up to the challenge to come out on top in the end. treave said that he won't give us any cheap "death by Zhang Jue" or "you have been imprisoned for ten years" situations.
     
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  13. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    There is more babes outside the prison than there is inside. "docking" is all the action Jing is going to see in prison.
     
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  14. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Haha, no one will dare approach us in the slammer, we're too hardcore for that. But once we get out... oh man, all of Jing's awkwardness around women will be out the window, the guy will be starved.
    And I think the Chinese are too :obviously: for docking.
     
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  15. Nevill Arcane

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    Implying that it was better in any way when he wasn't in prison.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Last call. I'm closing in two hours, it'll take me till then to get to a comp. I believe rollback needs only one more person? You have till then to get your man. Or woman, as it may be.
     
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  17. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    remember guys that we have only three years to snatch Yunzi from Fire cult faggot! Reloading gave us more chances to prevent that.
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    The Giant Flaming Faggot won't be able to do shit against our army of the underworld's best and a hardcore Xu Jing taught by years of hard living. Besides, we will be able to offer Yunzi anything she wants for herself and her people, instead of being a charming face with nothing to his name. Face it, Gangster Jing is the way of the future. How can I persuade you to it, bro?
     
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  19. asxetos Augur

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    Rollback BDS.
    I am perfectly ok with save-scumming and i am not going to vote for any option where we actually try the assassination.
     
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  20. Nevill Arcane

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    That depends on what you had in mind:

    Is 15 out of ~20 the same as 15 out of 29?

    According to my count, the tally stands like this:
    15 total

    MystiKnight is... for a reload, I guess? (Female BJ > Continue > Conditional 15th vote for Reload.)
    Though it would have to be (Female BJ > Conditional 15th vote for Reload > Continue) for that.

    13 total
     
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  21. Kayerts Arcane

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    I'll vote for rollback to BDS. I haven't been following the thread that closely since the tournament (only treave's story posts), so I will assume that it was the lack of my wise and indeed heroic voting that led us astray. Also Azira, somehow. Anyway, the time to set this straight is now!
     
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  22. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    B-but I wanted Southern Man-Tiger-pig Jing to be our future. We already have mansion in tropical island, a perfect place where we can entertain our harem while ripping arms off any that challenges us. Heck We even have village there where we can buy some wines and luxury items without traveling to other end of empire. Gangster Jing is much less likely to get those since Zhang will be after our ass.
     
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  23. treave Arcane Patron

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    Hm, I think it'd be unfair to shift the goalposts at this stage, even though there were more people than I expected.
     
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  24. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Not necessarily, treave guaranteed that Zhang Jue won't be coming after us if we proceed, no cheap deaths like that. Besides, one doesn't preclude the other. We also won't be able to get Du Yao's daughter into our harem.
     
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  25. treave Arcane Patron

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    I guaranteed you wouldn't have a certain death, not that he wouldn't find you.

    Your deaths are in your own hands.
     
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