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Absinthe · May 21, 2014

ChumBucket, I would like to make the following counter-points:

I do not see it in a black and white either. I have consistently admitted that it is possible for B to succeed, my concern is just that those odds are weak (whereas A's odds are nonexistant) and that I would rather pick up a leeching skill boost while we're at it.
Sure, that doesn't bother me. I have flavor reasons for preferring my own choices too, and if it's a matter of preference I can get that.
Hahaha, no. See, I have no problem with acting friendly. But when your idea of me being nice involves me sitting there and quietly taking it while a bunch of tools try to shit on me, then you're a jackass too.
Look up ad hominem. Ad hominem does not mean "insulting people." Ad hominem means "attacking people as a means of discrediting their arguments." What I did was the former.

treave · May 21, 2014

Pretty much, yeah. Can't guarantee anything if some true hero worthy of Chi You's mantle arranges a tie, though.

asxetos · May 21, 2014

I dont mind flopping back to C but i also want to reveal the WQS to the Shaolin. Hopefully we will get that chance against the Abbot.

ChumBucket · May 21, 2014

Making claims of circle jerking is ad hominem, dude. Can't see the forest but for the trees.

Absinthe · May 21, 2014

Chumbucket, with all due respect, I'm going to ignore that last comment of yours because I already think you're retarded. By the way, that's ad hominem.

profreshinal · May 21, 2014

treave what effects happen if we drain and we exceed our neigong cap?

treave · May 21, 2014

The effects are unpredictable, but it's likely you could cripple yourself all over again.

Ifeex · May 21, 2014

Flopping to C>B. If this won't work as planned I'm blaming Absinthe.

Absinthe · May 21, 2014

Profreshinal, if you like your odds of facing the abbot better when Jing is at partial strength using elders' techniques (whereas the elders are inferior and known to the abbot) against the abbot at full strength with his techniques instead of push your ability to leech and face the abbot at super strength using your own techniques and quite possibly the abbot's against him, that's your prerogative.

Ifeex, if it doesn't work, sure, you can blame me.

profreshinal · May 21, 2014

Jing doesn't do half work. If he's going to drain untill those 9 veteran monks give up, he's going to have to drain a whole lot of qi and to much qi is pretty catastrophic. Beating the abbot and then collapsing because Jing can't handle that much of qiis pretty shitty. Jing would get depowered all over again.

Absinthe · May 21, 2014

Jing is only going to drain them "until they give up;" he's not going to drain them straight into the ground. This was already established. Even supposing we were to overload ourselves, that condition wouldn't last. In case you haven't noticed, we have some amazing herbalists and an expert of qi theory exceeding Wang Zhengchong who happens to know our neigong in our crew.

Like I said, if you prefer your odds of facing the abbot better with partial strength Jing + elder techniques instead of going for a leech to face him as superstrength Jing + possibly abbot techniques, that's your prerogative.

profreshinal · May 21, 2014

"until they give up"

As this is a challenge they're not going to give up easily. Untill they're dry or untill they're to exhausted to fight isn't that much of a difference.

treave how determined are these monks to win?

treave · May 21, 2014

Not to the extent of actually risking their own lives in a blind gamble. If everything goes as planned, they should give up after the draining, recognizing their defeat. Being old men, having that much qi taken out of them has a large effect.

ChumBucket · May 21, 2014

Could they work together to "overfeed" Jing if they realize the nature of the trap?

Akkudakku · May 21, 2014

ChumBucket said:
Could they work together to "overfeed" Jing if they realize the nature of the trap?

Why do you guys just persist in giving treave ideas with which he can fuck us over?

asxetos · May 21, 2014

treave is always atleast one step ahead. I dont believe we ever predicted the exact outcome of a choice.

treave · May 21, 2014

ChumBucket said:
Could they work together to "overfeed" Jing if they realize the nature of the trap?

Perhaps.

ChumBucket · May 21, 2014

treave said:
ChumBucket said:

Could they work together to "overfeed" Jing if they realize the nature of the trap?

Click to expand...

Perhaps.

That sounds like a pretty karmic way to loose as well.

Absinthe · May 21, 2014

If they had the presence of mind and group coordination to pull off something that coordinated so quickly, they could also just physically break the leech which would be much safer.

The whole point of C is that it's a qi clash into a surprise leech that gets them before they react appropriately.

treave · May 21, 2014

The drain doesn't happen instantaneously and given that this skill isn't something as rare as a legendary technique, it's impossible that there are no existing counters for it to make draining an I win button. Do they know any? That's also a risk you'll have to take. After all, Jing himself managed to fight it off Yang Xue's drain as a novice, even if there were extenuating circumstances.

Jester · May 21, 2014

We start a tug of war in C to later switch to drain mode, if we get to close to maximum qi threshold we just have to start relishing it again.

Absinthe · May 21, 2014

If I had to guess the two main counter styles would be reversing the leech, which I find to be unlikely as Shaolin considers qi leeching too unorthodox to learn, and unloading a poison neigong, which I'm also going to guess isn't up to Shaolin's tastes. There might be some other counter that messes with our meridians too, but we don't have any meridians so that's not a concern for us.

I'll take my chances.