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How about the Empire of Oceania? Seems like a good name to me.

 

LOL NO! How did you get that idea anyway? Oceania is so far away from Babylon & not even a Sumerian / Coptic word...
And much part of our empire is land anyway...

 

Fine. The Democratic People's Republic of Mesopotamia it is then.

 

Ah-ah, Egypt isn't part of Mesopotamia, they're liable to get offended.

 

I go for Empire of the Rivers, provided that we translate that 'River' bit into either Coptic or Akkadian, whichever sounds more badass. Both Mesopotamia and Egypt are really based around their respective river(s), so it'd work, I guess.

Looking through some shitty translators, I was able to find that the word for 'river of the night' (yet nothing on just 'river') was 'margidda' in Sumerian. Nothing on the Coptic or Akkadian. Can anyone else find something better? This is a bit bad, considering that Sumerian was still long-dead as a language at this point. (It was apparently taking on a role similar to Latin as early as the time of the Akkadian Empire.)

 

Hmm

How about the Levant Empire (Levant is in the middle of Babylon & Egypt, we can expand the definition a bit)
or Empire of Jerusalem? Most likely there'll be no Christianity here...

Or simply Eanid Empire (Ean)
or you can link the empire to the mini Eye of Terror, so the empire will act as the guardian of mankind (translate "guardian" to sumerian or coptic & make it our empire name)

 

Ouch, that sucks. Well, hopefully this will at least serve as a postponing measure until we can find further alternatives. Maybe we'll learn a way to cleanse some of the corruption within us down the road. Let's save Anbar-Shi for big fights only.

As for the name, well how about this: "Deep inside the ruin was a single stone that would change the course of our history forever. On the stone was etched a galactic map and a single word more ancient than the clans themselves: Hiigara. Our home."

But seriously, we need a good name. Tianxia (China) means "all under heaven", we need something that can compete with that. According to the crappy Sumerian dictionary I looked up (Kipeci looked at the same one, I'm sure), there's a variation of the name Sumeria called Shin'ar, which translates to "The Land of the Watchers" Considering the threats to Mankind posed by the rift, I think the name is very appropriate. The Shin'ari Empire.

 

The term 'levant' initially referred to more 'where the sun rises' than a vaguely defined region between Iraq and Egypt. We may as well call it the Oriental Empire if we go with that.

Edit: Screw this, let's just piss off everyone except our bros. Call it the Gutian Empire.

 

Oooh that's got a nice ring to it.

 

Mark my words, bros, and mark 'em well. This Anbar'Shi business is Bad Mojo.

treave: so, let me get this straight. The two Kings want to unite Egypt and Babylonia into one, sovereign nation, or what? Or is this just a simple alliance.
Also, when will you tell me about the doctrine that Ean introduced to Sumeria? Legionaries, phalanxes, or something else?
Answer me, I must know!




As to the names, let me research mythology and symbolism, I think I have a good idea.

 

"To see is to know, and in this world no one sees more clearly, and knows more truth, than the Emperor himself.

Before the Emperor's sight, we are all as the blind. The Emperor's sight is the only light we can trust to guide our way in this world.

A thousand kingdoms look to us, the Shin'ari and see the truth that we bring, and they rejoice, and they submit."

An empire with a culture that eventually evolves into one centered around seeing things as they are. The Eternal Emperor, the one who sees all, from the darkest depths of Olympus to the far flung shores of Cathay. The Emperor's legendary guard, the Eyeless White. Clad in pure white, they are his most loyal servants, blinding themselves in an act of faith to demonstrate the fact that before the all-seeing sight of the Emperor, all of mankind is blind in comparison and all should blindly trust in his lead. In return they are blessed with powers beyond mortal comprehension.

You are a young street urchin who never knew your parents, growing up in the slums of the great citadel city of Shin'ar. All your life you had looked up at the shining towers of the Emperor's palace, and dreamt of the luxuries within, yet you knew that fate had destined you to eke out a life down in the dumps. As it turns out, fate is fickle, especially if you poke your nose in matters that do not belong - like saving a young female acolyte of the Eyeless White from mysterious pursuers...

edit: The alliance is basically as good as a union, as far as the long term plans go. It will be gradual, but eventually they will be one nation. They will be trying to build a new identity as a people under you. Also, nothing important about the doctrines you need to know about, the phalanx and Roman testudo are also reliant on the equipment of the countries. Ean has introduced similar disciplined organization but with the focus on chariot warfare and the poorer quality of the equipment (it's an earlier age) there will be some differences.

 

We need to whip out the old Sumerian/Babyloanian/whateverthehell-ian dictionary and find some cool words. I wouldn't make the name too Babylon-centic as who knows where we will end up expanding.

We need JarlFrank or someone with a degree in this stuff to help us out.

 

Really? No way whatsoever to reverse this?

 

I think the language would be Akkadian or Coptic. Babylon was an Akkadian city, Sumerian's probably been gone for a while by now. Coptic is just the closest we have to the ancient Egyptian.

 

As an immortal, you will find that nothing is permanent in this world, but everything has its price.

edit: It looks like vote-wise things are pretty set. The only thing standing between this thread and 6.2 is now the naming of the empire.

 

Yep, congratulations, we just made the two most powerful nations on Earth mouthbreathing multikult 'tards, who will be lost without a an omnipresent nanny. Hitler and Stalin ahoy. I hope this is not canon and is fixable. Maybe I should just go back to making shitty one-liners and hurr-durr tentacle jokes, I swear times were easier back then. Fucking eyeless 'tards. What good is an eyeless bodyguard?


As to the name: bros, Babylon's rather influential symbol is the Lion. The Lion is the "king of the land animals" And most of Egypt's cheif deities are either represented with bird heads, or are very much associated with the Sky. Theirs are the "kings of the sky."
Hence: Kingdom of Heaven and Earth. One of two options, then: Ankidan Empire (Ankida: literally, the joining of Heaven and Earth), or An'Ki Mulag (An-sky, Ki-earth, Mulag- intimate for friend/friendship)

Dur-An-Ki (bond of Heaven and Earth) shall be the proclamation of unity, and an Imperial festival. I insist.
Source:http://www.volker-doormann.org/engsum.htm

 

I'll go for it.

 

Sorry bro. Either you get blind Grey Knights, or you don't get any at all.

 

Well, on the upside, at least we get to poke out Khaldor Draigo's eyes, so that's... that's something to look forward to. How soon will we get a chance to train them? And is the retardation of the populace avoidable? Or is our newfound Empire destined to turn into :patriot

 

Well of course it's not destined to turn into anything. But without someone around to ensure it is always on the right path, the deviation of an empire's principles is inevitable. How much they change and what they change into is not set in stone, but they will.

It's a big responsibility, being an immortal emperor. It's not just about governing and meeting dignitaries and launching wars, after all. You are an eternal embodiment of the higher concepts of the empire. If you change, the empire changes with you. If you are not around, the empire will change without you. And that change affects the lives of millions.

 

I tried to tell you, people, this was a bad idea.

 

As long as you are around and don't fuck things up, it is a superb idea.

Even if you are not around, the superior organization and bureaucracy brought about by a well-designed empire will improve the lives of mankind far more than if they were still separated squabbling tribes.

No, not a bad idea at all. Relax.

 

I'll go with Shin'ari

But I'm not entirely sure if we should enact such a culture that promotes narrow-mindedness (if the priests says it's wrong, then it's wrong; if we're not around, that is)
So treave , if Ean goes DEVOUR SOUL! or WAAAGHHH! the empire will go the same way also?

 

Everyone seemed keen on Smashing Axe's suggestion. I will be writing up the shift in culture based on that. It's not going to be narrow-minded... for now at least.

edit: He'd need to rule for so long that there are very little records from when he wasn't in power to make such a drastic shift, but yeah, he could. Once Emperor Ean has always ruled, Emperor Ean is always right.

 

You forgot who you're dealing with, didn't you?
And it's not about our empire I'm concerned. It's China, the North and the Rift that worry me the most. Well, alea iacta est, so I'd better zip up for now save my credibility for when it's needed.

Edit: at the very least, we're staying true to 40K lore. Too bad we won't follow through with it to the end.