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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. newcomer Learned

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    I don't want to die... again...
     
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  2. ScubaV Prophet

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    I'm leaning towards B initially. C sounds like a potential coma choice, though it could also boost our powers even further by pushing ourselves. If we did A, we'd probably still have to contend with the Gieloth once the tower falls (though it's doubtful he has any martial prowess to speak of). The biggest concern there is the high chance of getting killed by the 2000 reserves, though maybe we could escape in the post-mind control confusion. It's unlikely our body would get super mangled so we should revive relatively quickly, but how quickly is relatively quickly?

    I think we have to trust in our men. We're still outnumbered 7000 to 1600? and their side doesn't have to worry about morale. However we have walls. If worse comes to worst we should be able to retreat and salvage some of our force and give Ean a chance to recover.
     
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  3. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I can't decide between B and C at the moment.
     
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  4. newcomer Learned

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    I fear C will turn us into a goo, not just a coma..
    Still, I believe the tentacles are making a stupid move; with their current numbers & mindless attacks they can only hope for a victory with severe casualty at best, IMO...
    Well, the tentacles might have something in reserve...
     
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  5. Bloodshifter Educated

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    Use the catapults oh wait...

    In all seriousness I don't think we can go into a power over use coma more likely then not nothing will happen pretty sure we have some sort of fail safe
     
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  6. Kipeci Magister

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    A.

    The soldiers themselves would not have the stomach for the losses they were taking, and would likely run for the hills if they had a modicum of free will. If we take down or disrupt the tower, that gets us into a direct conflict with the Gieloth controlling them; if we can overcome that, the thousands of soldiers won't particularly matter, because scared, disorganized troops aren't likely to waste themselves en masse against a superstrong immortal who just slaughtered their strongest leader. Even if they were to try, only so many could crowd around us at once, and while we are currently weak (probably still superhuman, though), we're only growing stronger as time passes, while they would tire.
     
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  7. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Kipeci has me convinced, A.

    Edit: Votan B for the moment. We should have later chances to act against the control tower. Every moment we delay the more powerful we grow.
     
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  8. Esquilax Arcane

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    I'm completely against C, I don't fancy being put out of commission for a millenium. In our weakened state and without our elemental manipulation skills improved, it would be a disaster.

    That leaves either A or B. Since we don't have a small army of cannon fodder peasants within the fortress, we'll be overrun by these guys. Our men are near their breaking point already, we must show them bravery in the face of overwhelming odds - our elites might remain solid, but the militiamen will break for sure. This is the time to be decisive, we need to lead our men with a chariot charge, taking our elites with us. Our enhanced telekinetic abilities will pick up the slack for our diminished combat skills and allow us to knock the structure down.

    We invested in our nifty new telekinesis skills so as to give us the biggest edge for the battle, and we used traps to thin their numbers. It is only appropriate then that we ride out to take the siege tower down. Ean is a leader of men, now it's time to lead.

    B
     
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  9. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I don't think our men are at 'breaking point', we just killed a thousand of their men and they are as yet completely unharmed. Still, B doesn't seem to give great chances for victory. (Hell, what are the odds the zombified men will just use each other as platforms to reach the breach, suffocating the crocodiles with corpses?)

    A for now, though it seems likely to get us killed anyway.
     
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  10. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    You think we'll be able to "fight our way out" of 2000 men in our state? Not to mention that the gieloth will still be there. Seriously, you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. We'd die AND the battle would be lost.

    B - We'll do as much damage to the babylonians as we can and bug out if it gets too hairy.

    edit: btw, if you were the guy on top of the magic tower, controlling your troops and - knowing that there's someone who can kill gieloth nearby - you see a small group approaching your tower, would you move your 2000 gaurds to defend the tower? Duh. Of course you would.
     
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  11. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Well my hope with is that they'll have lost quite a bit of their morale due to the casualties they've already taken and the way they've been compelled. That said I'm not adverse to B
     
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  12. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    Trust the men. We should be able to slaughter many thousand men and exhaust the gieloth. It can't be easy to control that many men.
     
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  13. Bloodshifter Educated

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    or to try to overcome our wall with *synchronized* movement
     
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  14. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Even if we don't win and have to retreat, we'll still have killed one Gieloth and slaughtered 1000s of babylonians. We know the gieloth doesn't control his men round the clock. Their morale would be crushed to almost nothing. Then we go for reinforcements from the king and mop up.

    Or we might get lucky and win. Either way it seems the best option.
     
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  15. Esquilax Arcane

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    What if that's not possible? This guy is one hell of a psychic, if his powers allow him to compel a group of men on the verge of routing to stand firm, then it's easily possible that he can compel a much smaller group of men who are already a bit shaken to flee, or worse, turn against us. Then we'll be up against two armies instead of one.

    We have a few things going for us in this situation - we don't need to fight our way past 2,000 men toward the siege tower. We've already taken out 1,000, and there are plenty of traps remaining. We have a clear path for our chariot and our men covering us. Lastly, we have our vastly improved telekinetic abilities to compensate for being wounded.

    That being said, I'm not completely opposed to B. It just seems to be inconsistent with our choices - our traps have killed off a third of their forces, and we've bolstered our telekinetic powers greatly in preparation for today.
     
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  16. Bloodshifter Educated

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    If they win the wall no matter the loses you will find that morale tends to run pretty high after a battle.

    Edit: a third? only 1000 or so died to quote the story *5000 are marching towards the wall while 2000 are guarding the tower* that is 7000 total I didn't know they had almost 10000 troops guess I misread some where for me not to notice that...
     
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  17. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Like others have said, B will also hopefully exhaust the remaining Gieloth, it must use power/energy else he would do it all the time. Besides, overwhelming his men with the constant death of their companions must take a psychic toll. I'm confident that our elite will hold, and the others will hold because the elite remain unbent and unbroken. We'll also be on the walls using what powers we can, which should also give us an edge.

    The trouble with A, is that even if we destroy the tower, we'll have a relatively fresh Gieloth opponent to face while physically drained. We'll have no reserves to call on, nothing to pull out of our arse at the last second.
     
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  18. Bloodshifter Educated

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    We might but then its time to hit the coma !!
    Edit: by the way light needles would have been awesome in this scenario
     
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  19. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    That's a really good point - the Gieloth may not have the power to continue to control the men for a sustained battle.

    It does depend on whether we will get another Choice before the battle is decided one way or another, but yeah, B could work...
     
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  20. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    If he was that good he'd have tried take over their minds to begin with and we would have sensed it. I'm guessing that this ritual required some prep of some sort or willingness on the part of the enemy - they do worship these guys as sons of Marduk.

    edit2: We also don't know that he has total control of them. He may just be numbing out their sense of fear and self-preservation along with hypnotic suggestion to command them - like Shulgi pulled on us.
    Assuming the gieloth commander has his head up his arse and doesn't send the 2000 gaurds to intercept us... Also, remember that "clear path" is a winding path. He'll see us coming for sure.

    edit: You make a point about the traps - there are more of them. And with the army marching like zombies, another 1000 or 2000 will likely die in them before they reach the walls.
    B allows us the option of retreat should things go wrong. At best - even if everything goes as planned and we knock down the tower - option A leaves us surrounded by 7000 babylonians and one pissed off gieloth.
     
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  21. Esquilax Arcane

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    Lambchop19: You're probably right that he can't use our men against us.

    But I do think he has another trick up his sleeve - what makes me very worried about B is the presence of the rain. This complicates things. He's creating it to fuck up the visibility of our archers, but I think that it's only a matter of time until he begins to unleash a storm. After that, our ability to hold the wall will be compromised. This Gieloth is not a direct combat threat and his army is only being held together by his will. Once he is out of the equation, they will panic. Yes, we'll still have to deal with him after we destroy his tower, but he's nowhere near the threat that his brother was in single combat.

    His plan is to bring his men up the ladders while he throws a storm our way. So yeah, I'm not sure if retreating will be so easy; the tower has added a lot of variables to the situation. Given our abilities and choices thus far, A seems to be the most logically consistent.

    If we pick A, at the very least his soldiers will have to run through traps if they want to get at us. It will make us much harder to overwhelm. Add to that our telekinesis, and we can keep the enemy at bay for a while. We can reach this guy, and we will not be surrounded.

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    With the tower amplifying his abilities, we have every reason to believe that he's creating a storm strong enough to erode the mudbricks. It's not going to take days to wash it away. Maybe hours. Then how do we escape.

    Look, the presence of this tower is a definite game-changer. It was an unknown quantity, and that means that we have to adjust our tactics to respond to it. Without doing that, you're acting as though it doesn't even exist.

    There are 2,000 men at the front and they will come after us. Our traps can keep them at bay and buy us our time until we reach the tower. Once we do, we can hit it with everything we've got. Why did we get telekinesis if we didn't want an edge in the battle?
     
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  22. anus_pounder Arcane

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  23. Kipeci Magister

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    Wasn't there something earlier about the mud bricks of our fortress meaning that torrential rain would cause it to collapse? If this guy is launching a magically enhanced rain storm on us, that's bad news for our ability to hold the fort. We need to take care of the Gieloth as soon as possible, or it could spell the end of our defense even if we take a ruinous toll of their forces.
     
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  24. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I thought that even with torrential rain it would take a few days for it to affect our fortress?
     
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  25. Lambchop19 Arcane Zionist Agent Literally Hitler Batshit Crazy

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    Not quite:
    Yes, the thought had occured to me as well - lighting striking our position would seriously hamper things, but I rather expect he's at his limit just controling the troops.

    Let's look at the situation in terms of best case/worst case:

    A. Best case we knock over the tower, kill the general before his 2000 gaurds can come to his aid, and then - seeing their god's son dead - all 7000 of the troops flee.

    A. Worst case we sally forth and the general sees us coming and sends his 2000 nearby gaurds to cut us to pieces and/or we knock down the tower, but are too winded to defeat the gieloth and the bulk of the 7000 enemy troops - who won't completely route so long as their god is alive and fighting. We are captured and killed - repeatedly - and Egypt falls.

    In the best case we win the battle, but in the worst case Egypt is finished and so are we.

    B. Best case we kill enough of the enemy for the general to realize that he is creating a pyrrhic victory if a victory at all and retreats or (unlikely) we kill all the enemy and the gieloth.

    B. Worst case the enemies numbers are diminished by several 1000, but our lines break and the battle is lost. We either retreat or - if not possible - we are captured etc. 4000-5000 babylonians remain at most.

    We've at least given Egypt a fighting chance against the Babylonians who at this point are diminished, exhausted, demorilized (you don't celebrate a victory too much when your general just mindraped your bros into blind sacrifice).

    If we were at 100% I'd agree with you that A was worth the risk. At full strength we'd knock down the tower and kill the Gieloth before he could react. But we have a hard time even walking at this point and that's not going to change for at least a day:
    Bottom line: I highly doubt we'd be able to take on the gieloth in this state, let alone fight through 2000 men should the gieloth send them our way.

    edit: underlined for tldr
     
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