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Mass Effect Legendary Edition remaster trilogy

SpaceWizardz

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If they want to fix Miranda they should add a scene where you push her and Jacob out the airlock.
 

Tyrr

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I'm surprised SJW's didn't got mad about Jacob.
His quest in ME2 is about his dad leaving him and his mother alone. And in ME3 he is the ONLY romance option from ME1&2 that cheats on the player and gets some other (white) girl pregnant.
 

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I'm surprised SJW's didn't got mad about Jacob.
His quest in ME2 is about his dad leaving him and his mother alone. And in ME3 he is the ONLY romance option from ME1&2 that cheats on the player and gets some other (white) girl pregnant.

Dad becoming a deranged cult leader was a cool idea but executed too timidly. It had no emotional impact. Not that any of the other ME quests do, mind you.
 

mediocrepoet

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I'm all for censoring these games if it means we can get rid of all the shit-tier PC-sexual NPCs in games. No more awful tranny NPCs, no more rainbow brigades shoving their agendas in my face, no more retarded fanfic identity politics narratives, no more saying hi and having random thots trying to jump on my dick. Just desexualize all of it and get back to heroic adventures and the like.

But if that's not what they're pushing for, then they should probably just leave all of it alone.
 

J1M

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They were part of the original design as envisioned by the people who created the game. Going in and changing it is fundamentally altering the vision of the original developers. It is, at its core, political censorship to please a certain class of people.

I understand the point that you're trying to make , i just can't say that i see that's what is actually happening. I always saw people complaning about this scenes with Miranda more because it's counter productive towards her character, background and tone of the game than anything,so to me this is just the devs hearing feedback and acting on it

Maybe it's matter perspective because i always thought the ass shots were a bit uncessary lmao.

FNV would be gutted in a similar remaster, and Josh would probably cheer it on at this point. What a soulless husk of a former man.

It's strange that say that because i literaly never saw anyone complain to Josh or devs to remove or censorship hookers, Caesar's legion ,etc. Actually people praise New Vegas having those elements. So i highly doubt that they would go out of their way to remove like that.
The most overwhelming feedback given to the developers of the Mass Effect trilogy was that they wanted a better ending. So overwhelming that they got butthurt and released a 4th ending as free DLC back in the day with passive aggressive content. By your logic, they should have worked on a proper ending before worrying about camera angles.
 
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Reminder that the "camera" isn't a real camera. The focus on the butt was intentional. Sawyer and company are just displaying the usual industry spite towards the people who like the stuff they make.

I'm surprised SJW's didn't got mad about Jacob.
His quest in ME2 is about his dad leaving him and his mother alone. And in ME3 he is the ONLY romance option from ME1&2 that cheats on the player and gets some other (white) girl pregnant.
He's a boring human, they were all trying to fuck Garrus.
 

oldmanpaco

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I'm surprised SJW's didn't got mad about Jacob.
His quest in ME2 is about his dad leaving him and his mother alone. And in ME3 he is the ONLY romance option from ME1&2 that cheats on the player and gets some other (white) girl pregnant.

Not only was the only black teammate's father a deadbeat dad he Cosby'ed women for years. Truly biowares best ME2 moment.
 

Semiurge

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Why is it so hard for Bileware to make a decent default femshep?

I bet that the concept art team gets to knock themselves out with the most sublime female designs, and then they are told to gradually uglify them before their work is submitted to modellers.
 

Nano

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In

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Takamori

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Hmm now lets be honest, no one here in fucking 2021 is even considering giving money to EA the soul less remaster crashgrab is just a plus in this equation
 

CrustyBot

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I don't really care the ass shots are gone, those cheeks are Miranda's most redeeming quality but it was to be expected. The twitter types that are gloating about how gamers are mad would be the first ones to dogpile BioWare if stuff like that was left in the remasters and ruin their chance of gaining positive momentum in the game journo space. Now, the thing about the twitter crowd is that they'll never be wholly satisfied unless you're already part of the in-group, so it's honestly better to double down instead of kneel in all cases. But BioWare has thrown in their lot with that crowd since about the time I registered an account here.

I'm quietly hoping the Jacob storyline will blow up in their faces though.
 

KVVRR

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I'm surprised SJW's didn't got mad about Jacob.
His quest in ME2 is about his dad leaving him and his mother alone. And in ME3 he is the ONLY romance option from ME1&2 that cheats on the player and gets some other (white) girl pregnant.
ALL of the loyalty missions were about dads leaving or fucking up in one way or another. Miranda, Jacob, Grunt, Thane, Jack, Samara, Tali, even Mordin with his previous protege. The only ones that don't are the ones that came with the DLC.


"It reduces her to an object, how offensive"

Anyone that knows anything about Miranda knows exactly why the shot framing her as a sex object works within the context of the game (and also as fan service but that's beside the point). She's literally designed to be the perfect woman. By her father no less.

That camera shot is deliberately chosen to put a certain idea into the player's mind. An idea which becomes extremely relevant later when Miranda explains to you that she is a test tube baby.

Attacking this deliberate aesthetic choice by saying 'lol just look at porn' is so beneath a person of Sawyer's intelligence that it's actually baffling. (And more than a little disappointing but disappointing his target audience seems to be Sawyer's raison d'etre lately so I guess it's par for the course)
This is a very good take but I think you're giving the writers and directors of ME2 wayy too much credit. This is the same game that tried to justify the shooting mechanics and character creator in-game in the most stupid and lore breaking way possible.
Then again ME2 was the one with the better cinematography out of the whole franchise, so you might be right.
 

Grimlorn

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Yet another comparion video.

Mac Walters @macwalterslives
We’ve have been in touch with a few in the modding community to learn how best to A. update everyone on changes that will impact existing mods, and B. set the modding community up for success going forward. It’s ongoing, and we’ll discuss in more detail by launch.

So in fact they are gonna lift existing mods as their own work :P

Every single shot from the original games look better :lol:



The funny thing is that I am in touch with people that made the biggest ME Mods.

From MEUITM, ALOT/ALOV, Expanded Galaxy, Spectre Mod, Ark Mod etc.
And nobody knows what is he talking about. They also confirmed that other modders from things like MERecalibrated weren't conctaced either.
So everyone is pissed over there :P

Means they likely stoke the modders' work then.
 

Lacrymas

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"It reduces her to an object, how offensive"

Anyone that knows anything about Miranda knows exactly why the shot framing her as a sex object works within the context of the game (and also as fan service but that's beside the point). She's literally designed to be the perfect woman. By her father no less.

That camera shot is deliberately chosen to put a certain idea into the player's mind. An idea which becomes extremely relevant later when Miranda explains to you that she is a test tube baby.

Attacking this deliberate aesthetic choice by saying 'lol just look at porn' is so beneath a person of Sawyer's intelligence that it's actually baffling. (And more than a little disappointing but disappointing his target audience seems to be Sawyer's raison d'etre lately so I guess it's par for the course)
This is a very good take but I think you're giving the writers and directors of ME2 wayy too much credit. This is the same game that tried to justify the shooting mechanics and character creator in-game in the most stupid and lore breaking way possible.
Then again ME2 was the one with the better cinematography out of the whole franchise, so you might be right.
I'd say it's more a dissonance than anything. Her quest is all about how she's a strong, independent woman who was dealt a bad hand by being "designed as the perfect woman" by her father (yikes) and she trying to get away from that and be seen as her own person. All the while the camera is ogling her ass for our benefit. Which is it, game? That is not to say we as individuals consuming this media can't find her sexy or physically attractive, only that the game is telling us two different things about her.
 
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I'll say it again, the reason devs hold their core audience in such contempt is that for one they know you're all idiots who will buy their shit regardless. And for two you are not the primary means for them making money. Essentially, you are not the customer. You are a front for the true customer. They make the core of their money from stocks. Has anyone checked to see the salt from that gamestop stuff? I don't have Twitter and treat it like a plague at the best of times. So someone else will have to go digging. But I'm sure Soyer and co have a lot to say about that.
 

Lacrymas

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People don't seem to get where "the problem" is. Yes, men are extremely sexualized in media too, the difference is Jacob was never described as designed to have sex appeal in that artbook or whatever, while Miranda was. Men do stuff and have characters while at the same time being sexy/sexualized. Women are sexy first and foremost and are treated as such by the developers themselves, proven by their own words in their own book. I am saying this as a bisexual man, so it isn't like I can't understand the appeal of a sexy woman, it's just really bizarre that a lot of people have this ridiculously exaggerated obsession with "beautiful women in video games/movies" and they "not being allowed in modern media". Not to mention that even conventionally attractive women are seen as "ugly" sometimes on this very forum. I seem to want to say I'm not "defending women's honor", I can live without women in this world so I don't feel the need to give them any special treatment.
 

Nano

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Grab the Codex by the pussy Strap Yourselves In
I'd say it's more a dissonance than anything. Her quest is all about how she's a strong, independent woman who was dealt a bad hand by being "designed as the perfect woman" by her father (yikes) and she trying to get away from that and be seen as her own person. All the while the camera is ogling her ass for our benefit. Which is it, game? That is not to say we as individuals consuming this media can't find her sexy or physically attractive, only that the game is telling us two different things about her.
"Maybe I wouldn't mind if you admired my body..." - Miranda to a male Shepard. She doesn't care, why should you?
 

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